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4 years 8 months ago #3337 by Cryptic
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Sir Lee, look at the flip side of that; what if the kid has his own plans for his life and then suddenly "Here's the Champ Force, go up hold the tradition."

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4 years 8 months ago #3377 by Blue Moose
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Okay, this is a weird idea, but what if the kid being groomed to be the next Champion isn't in the mainstream course load? Someone that the school is hiding somewhere and training in secret, away from the rest of the kids? There are more then enough hidden places on campus for the administration to hide a secret training ground or two.

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4 years 8 months ago #3502 by jmhyp
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Blue Moose wrote: Okay, this is a weird idea, but what if the kid being groomed to be the next Champion isn't in the mainstream course load? Someone that the school is hiding somewhere and training in secret, away from the rest of the kids? There are more then enough hidden places on campus for the administration to hide a secret training ground or two.

I don't think you want to isolate someone for four years and than give them ultimate power. Doesn't sound psychologically "safe".

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4 years 8 months ago #3545 by Sir Lee
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Also, I don't think you want to take someone who is likely already pretty powerful, treat him for four years as the Heir Apparent for a major role, and then tell him "sorry, kid, you missed your window of opportunity. Too bad for the last four years, you might have been making friends or dating or having fun like everybody else instead of training that turned out to be pointless, since you won't get that extra power." Can you spell "resentment"?

Cryptic has a good point on dumping this responsibility on the head of a teenager all of a sudden. But there are possible reasonable middle grounds. That would be to take the most promising student of the Senior class -- or, in a pinch, Junior, if there are no suitable Seniors -- and talk to him about the possibility and ask if he would be willing to take up the mantle.

That would have several good points:

- The school would have observed the student for three years already, which would give them a pretty good guess if he was psychologically suitable to the role;
- It would shrink the window when the student would see himself as "heir presumptive" to about one year, so he wouldn't be as psychologically invested in it if the current Champion failed to kick the bucket;
- It would hit the student at such a time as he was already thinking about his post-Whateley life, so it wouldn't be the "only future" he sees ahead -- if it fails, well, he could always go to college as he was already planning before.

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4 years 8 months ago #4884 by Palomon
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Does the person at Whateley, have to be a student? It seems a more natural fix would be a faculty member or trustee. They would have been vetted and could be ready to take on the mantle as needed. Meanwhile they teach Avatars or other classes appropriate to their skill sets. I imagine it is like a high draft pick QB serving as a backup until his predecessor retires or is injured. It is not given to someone in high school but to another professional.

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4 years 8 months ago #4890 by Sir Lee
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It doesn't HAVE to be a student, but...
Well, let's look at the list of requirements:
- High-level avatar;
- Civic-minded;
- Willing to take up the responsibility;
- Not tied-up in other career commitments
- Fairly healthy

Thing is, why such a person would spend an unknowable number of years essentially bench-warming at Whateley, when he could be "out there" superheroing?

Thing is, what would such a person

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4 years 8 months ago #4893 by Nagrij
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You all are missing the real candidates for the champion force: avatar zombies.

Having already lived, they have less life investment. Having less intelligence, they are more easily directed. Having less emotion, they are free to make logical choices involving brain munching. Easy to fit a spirit into a fresh corpse, so no need for a fancy avatar rating.

So clearly, Champion is a zombie, right?

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4 years 8 months ago #4894 by NeoMagus
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Nagrij wrote: You all are missing the real candidates for the champion force: avatar zombies.

Having already lived, they have less life investment. Having less intelligence, they are more easily directed. Having less emotion, they are free to make logical choices involving brain munching. Easy to fit a spirit into a fresh corpse, so no need for a fancy avatar rating.

So clearly, Champion is a zombie, right?


Ignore Nagrij, he clearly lost half of his brain to a zombie himself. :P ;)

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4 years 8 months ago #4895 by E M Pisek
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NeoMagus wrote:

Nagrij wrote: You all are missing the real candidates for the champion force: avatar zombies.

Having already lived, they have less life investment. Having less intelligence, they are more easily directed. Having less emotion, they are free to make logical choices involving brain munching. Easy to fit a spirit into a fresh corpse, so no need for a fancy avatar rating.

So clearly, Champion is a zombie, right?


Ignore Nagrij, he clearly lost half of his brain to a zombie himself. :P ;)


Okay. So you're saying he's a half-brained nitwit? Or a half-wit?

What is - was. What was - is.

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4 years 8 months ago #4896 by Valentine
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I think there is a bit of misunderstanding going on here.

Welcome to Poe wrote: "Ever since then, it's been understood that Whateley Academy will always be training at least one Avatar at all times- the best, the smartest, the strongest, the bravest Avatar enrolled- who is ready at all times to accept the Champion Force, in case the worst happens. We even have a jet on call at Berlin Airport, just in case."


There is a student or more than one at Whateley that is being trained to take over as Champion. Once he (or she) graduates, there is another student chosen. They may stay in contact with the previous student if there isn't a suitable candidate, but he isn't kept waiting to get on with his life.

It's entirely possible that, 2006-7, Mongoose is prepared to take over as Champion, and in 2007-9 it will be Bluejay, then Aquerna for 2009-10, then someone not at the school yet...

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