Wiz rated Avatars and hobgoblin creation

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3 months 1 day ago #68558 by Cryptic
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Does the Avatar trait somehow reduce the possibility of creating hobgoblins? We have only seen this combo with Kayda, and as far as I remember she had few, mentioned, hob related accidents.

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3 months 1 day ago #68560 by Kristin Darken
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No. Kayda is somewhat of a unique case in that she is fed a small amount of Essence by a very unique spirit. The amount is small, amounting 'usually' to a very low ranked Wiz (who also tend not to run into hobgoblin trouble unless they really aren't doing anything with their accumulating Essence for some time) but with an extra push IF she needs it. And because Wakan Tanka is doing that (and controlling it) there really isn't a chance for hobgobs... because if Kayda isn't in need of Essence, she won't be getting more pushed to her.

Most any other avatar isn't going to have a spirit playing 'regulator valve' on their Essence intake so they are just as likely as any other Wiz of their rank to produce hobgobs.

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2 months 4 weeks ago #68591 by Cryptic
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Thanks Kristian, that helps, now I have a release valve for the seven years of bad luck my character has coming her was after breaking a magic mirror.:evil:

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2 months 3 weeks ago - 2 months 3 weeks ago #68599 by Kristin Darken
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Remember, mages get hobgoblins from a Well that is full beyond their mental discipline's ability to contain it but its not the only thing that can happen. Mages are also susceptible to 'least wishes'... which amounts to localized wish fulfillment as randomly spilled out Essence tries to take shape around ANY intent. Just remember its very small amounts of Essence spilling over at any given time, so they are 'least' wishes... very tiny amounts of fulfillment, or larger intents incompletely fulfilled.

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2 months 2 weeks ago - 2 months 2 weeks ago #68655 by Schol-R-LEA
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As a side point, I have speculated that some of what are being called hobgoblins aren't quite what they seem. Aside from Absinthe's fairies, we've seen that Fey's hobgoblins, while not really controllable, are at least somewhat favorable to her (when she is in a fight, they tend to go after whomever she's facing off with).

My suggestion - which I included in a micro I wrote about some of the other Sidhe on campus - is that in some cases, they are a slightly different phenomenon which I named 'haugboon' (after one of the traditional names for Brownies). These are less 'magical spillage' and more 'manifested temporary familiars', but because one needs to learn how to communicate with them they can behave much like hobgoblins at first.

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2 months 2 weeks ago #68670 by Kristin Darken
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I'll say just one thing to that:

Intent.

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2 months 1 week ago - 2 months 1 week ago #68733 by FiddlerFox
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Cryptic wrote: Does the Avatar trait somehow reduce the possibility of creating hobgoblins? We have only seen this combo with Kayda, and as far as I remember she had few, mentioned, hob related accidents.


In Fox Tails (pt 3), Catherine ends up with will-o-wisp looking hobgoblins from an overfull well accidentally burning a kitchen, and she also has both Avatar and Wiz traits :)

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2 months 1 week ago #68736 by Cryptic
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Hadden't gotten to Fox tails yet, been on an Imp/Outcast bige.

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1 month 1 week ago #69005 by elrodw
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Kayda has a wiz rating for attracting essence on her own - but not at a high rate. She also has a 'trickle charge' from Wakan Tanka. Not a huge burst of essence. It is possible she could have hobgoblins. Remember, she was getting tutoring on controlling her well in her first term at Whateley.

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1 month 1 week ago #69029 by Kristin Darken
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Kayda uses her magick pretty consistently, so the main thing preventing her from hobgoblins is that she is rarely running around with a full enough tank to spill over.

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