Essence Gathering and Storage Devices

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2 months 4 weeks ago #69342 by Softdreams
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Wiz-type mutants innately draw Essence from their surroundings into themselves which can then be called forth for their magickal workings.

Essence derives from many varied sources, these energies are "tainted/natured" by the source that produces it. So, I believe we can safely assume depending on the location a Mage finds themselves in, the flavour of essence varies. Going by this logic, would it be possible for mages to collect flavored/natured Essene depending on the energies given off by the ecosystem around them? (For example: volcanoes, oceans, forests) As, let's say, an alternative to exchanging Essence with elementals to obtain unfiltered energies.

What leads a Mage to these Essence exchanges with these beings? When denatured/filtered Essence allows for the use of such a wide array of effects, even if on a lower power scale.

Could emotions and/or other humans work as Essence sources?

Could objects be enchanted to collect Essence on their own?

Can familiars collect Essence on their own?

(I've always felt like these are questions that would be answered in Urban Essence Gathering 212. :P )

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2 months 4 weeks ago #69344 by Astrodragon
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Mages trade or use specialised types of essence for efficiency. A specific type is more efficient and produces greater effects when used for spells of its 'type'.

Yes, other humans (and indeed living creatures) can be used as a source of essence. Not usually a large one unless you're sacrificing people.

Familiars - depends on the familiar.

Can an object be made to collect and store essence? Yes, but its hard. A mage usually makes this sort of thing to store their own power. Getting it from the environment would be a much slower process (less essence), and might not work unless the level of essence around was above a certain threshold. Whether its sensible is a different matter - it wouldnt be cheap, and there are faster and more efficient ways for a mage. A permanent item needs to do this if its used, otherwise it runs out of power. Its why they are expensive to make, and recharging will be slow. Not suceh an issue for the mage, who can recharge it faster, but there's a reason they are scarce and usually low-power. An example would be Imps' magical disguise - its an illusion, so not such a high power draw, and she doesn't use it often. If she used it constantly she might well find it running out of power. Whether it taps into Imps essence or the environment to recharge over time is unknown.
Tying one into a paricular 'flavour' of essence would be more efficient IF you can leave it next to a strong source. So a fire item would benefit from being next to a volcano, yes, but only while its there.

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2 months 4 weeks ago - 2 months 4 weeks ago #69345 by Heckfire
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My recent experiment with using the old Marvel Super Heroes TRPG "Ultimate Powers Book" to randomly create a possible protagonist offered up a pairing of abilities that actually ties into this topic in a way that I believe you two (and others more familiar with Whateley-style spellcasting than me) might be able to brainstorm with me about: two powers I rolled were "Absorption" (the "Superman is a solar battery" thing) and "Disintegration" (the UPB version that turns matter into energy, which can then be possibly consumed using the Absorption power). However, I also rolled "Power Simulation" in the Magical category, which basically turns all of her powers into Magic-based ones...so the idea I'd had initially was that her Abosrption power is used to consume essence, which is how she basically gets around being able to cast spells despite having a Reason stat that makes her kinda dumb.

So, my thought is: could physical matter be turned into essence if the proper mechanism (like her Disintegration ability) exists, and what would be the effect on the surrounding environment?

Related: is essence solely a terrestrial thing, or could it exist in off-world environments, such as alien worlds within our galaxy or even offworld? Is there, in fact, essence in outer space?
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2 months 4 weeks ago #69347 by Astrodragon
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You'll have to wait and see

I will be dealing with a lot of essence issues in Morgana's stories, but not all at once

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2 months 4 weeks ago - 2 months 4 weeks ago #69348 by ShadowedSin
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The Dullahan has used reliquaries to make up for the essence cost for some of her spells. Note, these items are rare as Astro stated and they had to be smuggled to her. Also, the magic she uses is slightly different than what has been seen by other Whateley magi.

Maeve is the same way, her magic is that of the Fae. Every pact and oath has a cost, and an effect for their usage.

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2 months 4 weeks ago #69350 by Sir Lee
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Re Essence-gathering artifacts: they are possible, but quite difficult to make. The only one I can remember is the one owned by Jadis, and it took the Three Maidens to make it.

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2 months 4 weeks ago #69353 by Mister D
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Sir Lee wrote: Re Essence-gathering artifacts: they are possible, but quite difficult to make. The only one I can remember is the one owned by Jadis, and it took the Three Maidens to make it.


Also, there's the magical tools that Eldritch made for the Three Little Witches, in one of the Outcast stories. ( I loved the reaction from Professor Grimes. :D )

Though it has to be emphasised that those were made by one of the Artificer's, so your point would still stand.

Even though it seems like relatively normal by Whateley standards, Whateley is not a "normal" place... :D


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2 months 4 weeks ago #69359 by Heckfire
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I suppose, backtracking to clarify an earlier question, how common is the presence of essence in the general, I dunno, atmosphere? What generates it and/or uses it in an environment not known for bearing many mages? It's obviously a rare commodity in more concentrated, useful forms, hence 90% of the 3 Little Witches whole deal, but is ambient essence a common element?

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2 months 4 weeks ago - 2 months 4 weeks ago #69360 by Sir Lee
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Not an expert here, but from what has been said in canon over the years it is everywhere on Earth, but not spread uniformly. There is the issue of "ley lines," which are described in slightly contradictory ways.

One one hand, ley lines are said to be everywhere and there are techniques like Feng Shui for manipulating them in order to achieve results.

On the other hand, there are places that are said to be "confluences" of ley lines which are particularly propitious to magic.

The way I see it, there are two ways to read it. One is that not all ley lines are created equal. They are everywhere, true, but some are stronger than others.

The other is that ley lines are a bit like magnetic flux lines, or perhaps sea currents -- there are places where it's strong and places where it's weak, and you can deflect and distort them, but they aren't actually discrete lines, more like a continuous flow that can be represented as lines.

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2 months 3 weeks ago #69364 by Kristin Darken
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Essence is everywhere. It's generated by a variety of things... mostly power dynamics. Life generates a lot of Essence, because life is a constant process of growth and death on all sorts of levels.The elemental forces, fundamental concepts, and so on... all produce some Essence. Humans have the capacity to become aware of and work with Essence, but we aren't like the Sidhe were... the Sidhe were MADE of the stuff, it was their very life energy. For humans, our living generates some Essence, but its not a part of us. We can be affected by it and affect it, but we can survive without it. Without Essence, the Sidhe die.

All these sources of Essence create natural 'fields' of the stuff. And like everything else, Essence operates within the context of certain natural laws... energy flows from areas of concentration to areas of vacuum (or lower concentration). Certain natural fields and flows have formed over time just as the water from rain and springs flows from high ground to the sea and forms a constant network of streams and rivers, merging and such... these are called ley lines. The lines don't create Essence, they are just places where Essence is plentiful. Humans don't typically have the capability to work with the energy of ley lines directly... the Essence within them is too 'vigorous' for our manipulation and too volatile to take into our Wells.The Sidhe, on the other hand, have no problem working with the energy of the ley lines (or the nodes where they intersect, which are even MORE powerful and volatile).

A human, baseline born, has very little capacity to hold Essence. With training, they can still craft it into spells... but would always rely on outside sources of Essence to fuel/power their art. However, we DO have the ability to establish a reservoir that combines our force of will and mental discipline and an established amount of Essence in a way that not only holds Essence, but creates a natural sort of 'low pressure' area that draws Essence in. This reservoir is called the mage's Well, and the initial burst of Essence that is used in creating it is called "lighting the Well".

A mage cannot typically hold enough Essence without a lit Well for it to light spontaneously... which is why baseline mages typically aren't self-taught. They require an experienced mage with sufficient Essence to 'spare' to teach them enough mental discipline to hold what they are given and then to 'feed' apprentice mage Essence until the Well lights. And they don't do this lightly because an untrained mage will be unable to hold on to Essence they acquire and if they lose (or use) all their Essence, the Well collapses back into an 'unlit' state.

What makes Wizard class mutants 'special' is that they have an innate natural draw (that 'low pressure' zone that comes from having a lit Well). Of course, without mental discipline, they might not be able to hold onto it ... a weak willed Mage's Well is more like a sieve than a steel drum. The latter would only lose Essence if they overflowed their container... while the former? It might pour out as quickly as you put it in. Of course, you can exceed the drainage rate of even a coarse sieve if you pour water into it fast enough. And THAT is how Wizard mutants sometimes skip the 'apprentice' stage of being a mage and Light their Wells spontaneously. The higher the Wizard rating, the bigger the innate draw of Essence (and this rises once they've got a functioning Well).


As to various 'tainted' Essence types... its important to note that mages typically don't cast spells using either raw or 'tainted' natural Essence. Yes, Fire essence is good for fire spells... but you don't want to build a bonfire and soak in fire essence to use in your casting ... its not going to sit in your Well all comfy like. Yes, well trained mages can refine non-standard Essence on the fly... but they are not taking it in before using it AND they are probably running it through a 'filter' or conversion spell to get rid of the variations and impurities. Most mages won't even work with natural ambient Essence, the only 'easy' Essence to work with is the stuff that has been purified and attuned to the mage by sitting in that mage's Well. This is why anyone shy of a Sidhe or century old mage is usually casting spells with their own internal Essence or Essence they personally put in a storage system. Someone else's Essence (or Essence just lying around) can react all sorts of odd ways if you just use it.

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