What do Stygian and Jimmy T see?

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4 years 8 months ago - 4 years 8 months ago #4965 by Malady
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What do Stygian and Jimmy T see?

If I remember, right, the answer can't be 'ghosts' as they aren't supposed to be as numerous as reported in Jimmy T's POV Story?

And perhaps Stygian and Jimmy T don't even see the same type of things...
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4 years 8 months ago #4969 by Kristin Darken
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What does Jimmy T see? Hmm... ghosts. Probably.

What does Stygian see? Hah... he's a former god of the dead. And he was a right bastard about it when he had the job. If ANYONE deserves to be haunted, this is the guy. As to what he does see? No clue... he's looney bin material. He could be drawing all the ghosts/spirits of the dead from miles around to him... he could just be reliving being a living god in the realm of death for the duration of his immortal period.

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4 years 8 months ago - 4 years 8 months ago #4971 by Malady
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Kristin Darken wrote: What does Jimmy T see? Hmm... ghosts. Probably.


Is that WOG? 'Cause I remember a reply from the old forums about ghosts and...

Avatar Mechanics Page 8 - Kristin Darken wrote: To answer the question though... that would depend entirely on the spirit. Remember, Spirits are NOT ghosts in the modern sense (which are more psychic impressions left on locations or by powerful moments/people). they aren't souls in the modern sense, either (the average person bears only a lesser spirit without any great motivation or history). they're more like Greek daemons. the spirits of heros, the reincarnate, aspects of personality, virtues, vices, embodiment of elements and the natural order.

How THOSE will react to place of great death? Well... some of them have fought on battlefields that gruesome. Some may have died on one... more than once even. Others will look at the death of many humans as something to be expected... we are barbaric, unenlightened, mortals after all. Some will be naive/innocent and see them as terrible places. You know... basically the same spectrum of responses you would get from taking a group of contempory people to see the same.

Kristin Darken


Okay... So that says nothing about how numerous ghosts are. Okay. So, I guess they're really numerous, but hard to get useful info from, so using ghosts as an info source isn't a common thing?
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4 years 8 months ago #4973 by Valentine
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Define Ghost.

IIRC Jimmy T is "harassed" by Spirits based upon what he is doing. Period spirits during history class, Chess masters when he is playing Fubar, etc.

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4 years 8 months ago - 4 years 8 months ago #4976 by Malady
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Valentine wrote: Define Ghost.


Good idea. :)

Hmm... Usually intangible remnants of a dead human, that have the ability to communicate with people, who have the memories or the personality of their dead human, in whole or in parts.
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4 years 8 months ago #5001 by Kristin Darken
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Yes, neither one of them deal with spirits... which is what that post was about. Spirits are not ghosts. Not even all ghosts are ghosts.

What do I mean by this?

Spirits in the WA Universe sense most often refers to beings of extradimensional origin who are most commonly intangible when in the physical planes. Most often, their originate (or at least commonly reside in) the 'near' planes - the astral, the spirit worlds, the ethereal, or the shadow planes that interconnect all of these and the physical realms. Most spirits are intelligent and sentient... but are non-human intelligences. Spirits of the animals and nature make up the majority of them. Of course, where there are common versions of such things, there are also exceptions, archetypes, or 'leaders' who are both more intelligent and powerful. For instance, there are many rabbit spirits hopping around in the lower spirit realms... but Rabbit, the totemic archetype of their kind is a singular spirit and most likely will be found in the upper spirit realms somewhere.

Some entities have such power and force of will that they can pass through death into the beyond as spirits. These retain some aspect of their mortal intelligence and power and have as much in common with the natural spirits as they do with ghosts. Their 'home' is mostly the ethereal realm, one of the few places where force of will and raw intellect and energy is sufficient to generate and maintain identity in a static construct without a physical body. However, the longer such a being is from a physical nature, the more of its mortal awareness is lost (emotions, for instance, are almost exclusively tied to the body and the chemical shifts of it). In many cultures, THESE are the spirits most distrusted by the wise.

Ghosts - the non-physical remains of the formerly living are relatively uncommon. Mostly, the energy of life disperses quickly, returning to the natural cycles... either being reborn or entering a cycle of reward or punishment. Some might get displaced or lost along the way... often due to extreme confusion or tragedy about their death. Sometimes they can even get tossed back into a body if one is available Ghosts decay quickly... they aren't really structured to hold either the power or the intelligence of the mortal who they represented. If the ghost dissipates without stabilizing... they can be gone for good instead of returning to the eternal cycle.

The final type of 'ghost' which is the most common is the emotional bio-magnetic impression of an event that the living make and imprint on their surroundings.

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