What do the teachers tell each other?

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4 years 11 months ago #9468 by Domoviye
Domoviye replied the topic: What do the teachers tell each other?
I think that this would be put on their file and teachers who pay attention to that kind of thiing (anyone who teaches a class that requires powers and those interested in their students) will know.
But I'd assume the Survival, Combat, magic and psychic teachers would share important info like that as a matter of course simply because they REQUIRE the information to do their jobs safely.
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4 years 11 months ago #9473 by Kettlekorn
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On the other hand, mistakes and glitches can certainly happen.

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4 years 11 months ago #9481 by Arcanist Lupus
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I haven't read the mentioned fanfic yet so I can't speak for that exact circumstance, but I wouldn't put it past Ito to feign ignorance in order to drive home a point about personal responsibility, as long as he thought that he could contain the consequences.

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4 years 11 months ago #9483 by Kristin Darken
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There are a lot of factors, but generally no... no one is required to inform faculty/staff about changes/break-throughs/power ups to power sets. However, doing so is considered the smart thing... and not doing so puts you in the position of being responsible for the results of things that the teachers could have otherwise prevented happening. For example, you are an Energizer capable of generating laser blasts. You achieve a power breakthrough that allows you some control over frequency generation and you don't report this... but you experiment with it on the range while other people are around, resulting in several people getting serious harmful dosages of x-rays. That's all on you. If you'd reported the break through to your adviser, they'd have sent you back to the labs and the testing guys where the range of shift could be tested in controlled settings and not gotten anyone sick.

Things like Rager results? Biohazards? Radiation? If you don't report those and someone gets exposed/injured? You're probably going to be packing your bags. The school deals with dangerous and unstable powers all the time; its their job to make sure everyone necessary is kept in the loop... to the extent that most faculty records regular (or even daily) observations in students files. Significant changes, holdouts, power changes, and so on? Hell yes. And you can bet that the range and combat instructors review new notations on every student's file before every class. It can be literally life and death if they don't. And when someone purposely records misinformation or disrupts the use of those records, bad things happen. You have only to look at some of Kayda's early arrival scenes to see that in action.

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4 years 11 months ago #9493 by Dawnfyre
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what abouut both Jadis and Ayla's mids?

both have items on them that mislead people
Ayla with the Dark Chocolate weakness, Jadis with no real information about her abilities.

assuming of course, that the information for the MID is a large part of what staff like the range monkeys use for information on a student's capabilities.

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4 years 11 months ago #9496 by Arcanist Lupus
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I'm sure that student MIDs are the slightest part of their files.

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4 years 11 months ago #9498 by Valentine
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Dawnfyre wrote: what abouut both Jadis and Ayla's mids?

both have items on them that mislead people
Ayla with the Dark Chocolate weakness, Jadis with no real information about her abilities.

assuming of course, that the information for the MID is a large part of what staff like the range monkeys use for information on a student's capabilities.


The Sim people are going off the submissions entered by the students, likely reviewed by both the techs (checking the MIDs), and Bardue and his staff (likely checking with other teachers and the MIDs) to flag ridiculous things.

Many student MIDs seem to have misleading information on them, Jade's is pure fiction. Note that Ito at least understands what Jade can actually do, even if he doesn't know how (although likely with his Ki abilities he sees the same link between Jade and J-Team that Kayda and a few others do). Ayla's Dark Chocolate weakness was just a trap to find out who had access to the MID records.

Also since all the students go through testing, Whateley probably has excellent records over what powers the students really have, whether or not the MIDs are correct.

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4 years 11 months ago - 4 years 11 months ago #9512 by Sir Lee
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There's the MID, there's what is in the generally-accessible-to-staff Whateley database, and there's what the teachers actually KNOW about the students. These are three different things.

To give some examples... Whateley's database on Jadis is certainly much more detailed than her MID. And lots of teachers and staff are aware of Jade's real powers, not the least because they read her entry *before* Ayla had it doctored.

Why isn't the school dropping the book on Ayla and Jade, then? Well, because they aren't endangering anyone else with that misinformation -- they are just being crafty, and the school sort of encourages craftiness. The non-obvious but dangerous parts of their powers -- Ayla's disintegration/BIT-disruption, Jade's high Regen -- ARE in their records. Yes, Jade can theoretically kill someone with a bit of wire. Does it matter that she is doing it with a PK projection instead of a devise as she claims? No, the relevant part of it is defending from the bit of wire.

And, more importantly, it's not something that is likely to happen by accident, even in the heat of a fight. Probably at least half of the students has potentially lethal mutant abilities.

Now, if Tennyo had kept her radiation emissions hidden, that would be a different matter worthy of punishment, because it can harm bystanders by accident.

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4 years 11 months ago #9520 by DanZilla
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Going back to the first example... no, something which takes away the ability to become a Rager wouldn't necessarily be something that the school personnel would share... HOWEVER, something that GIVES the ability to become a Rager would most definitely be shared at the first opportunity and, if possible, be taken away from the student to be returned, or not, when they leave the school.


A question I have regarding where this thread has gone and another also touched on... Is it Illegal to falsify and withhold information from an MID. If so, what is the crime and what punishments can be levied. Is it exacerbated if the false/withheld information and powers are not "harmless" but could present a clear and present danger?

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4 years 11 months ago #9523 by E. E. Nalley
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DanZilla wrote:
A question I have regarding where this thread has gone and another also touched on... Is it Illegal to falsify and withhold information from an MID. If so, what is the crime and what punishments can be levied. Is it exacerbated if the false/withheld information and powers are not "harmless" but could present a clear and present danger?


You proceed from a false assumption; a MID is not a government document. It is issued by private, nonprofit, nongovernmental organization. In much the same way the Federal Reserve is a private, for-profit, bank, and governments make use of its documents, in the case of the Fed Federal Reserve Notes, but the Federal Reserve has as much governmental authority as Federal Express.

While both these organizations go out of their way to cloak themselves in government language, and to present themselves as 'official' and governmental they are not. Governments find it easy to use their documents and they find it useful to misrepresent themselves.

So the answer your questions there is no legal repercussions, because they're not legal documents to begin with.

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