What do the teachers tell each other?

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4 years 7 months ago #9523 by E. E. Nalley
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DanZilla wrote:
A question I have regarding where this thread has gone and another also touched on... Is it Illegal to falsify and withhold information from an MID. If so, what is the crime and what punishments can be levied. Is it exacerbated if the false/withheld information and powers are not "harmless" but could present a clear and present danger?


You proceed from a false assumption; a MID is not a government document. It is issued by private, nonprofit, nongovernmental organization. In much the same way the Federal Reserve is a private, for-profit, bank, and governments make use of its documents, in the case of the Fed Federal Reserve Notes, but the Federal Reserve has as much governmental authority as Federal Express.

While both these organizations go out of their way to cloak themselves in government language, and to present themselves as 'official' and governmental they are not. Governments find it easy to use their documents and they find it useful to misrepresent themselves.

So the answer your questions there is no legal repercussions, because they're not legal documents to begin with.

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4 years 7 months ago #9536 by DanZilla
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E. E. Nalley wrote:

DanZilla wrote:
A question I have regarding where this thread has gone and another also touched on... Is it Illegal to falsify and withhold information from an MID. If so, what is the crime and what punishments can be levied. Is it exacerbated if the false/withheld information and powers are not "harmless" but could present a clear and present danger?


You proceed from a false assumption; a MID is not a government document. It is issued by private, nonprofit, nongovernmental organization. In much the same way the Federal Reserve is a private, for-profit, bank, and governments make use of its documents, in the case of the Fed Federal Reserve Notes, but the Federal Reserve has as much governmental authority as Federal Express.

While both these organizations go out of their way to cloak themselves in government language, and to present themselves as 'official' and governmental they are not. Governments find it easy to use their documents and they find it useful to misrepresent themselves.

So the answer your questions there is no legal repercussions, because they're not legal documents to begin with.


Thanks... I wasn't under the assumption myself which is why I worded it the way I did... I was curious, since the DPA has been alluded to being connected to the MID records in the past, if there was in fact some legal backing to the MID that wasn't attached to the MCO... Hence why the DFA could be an actionable offense when attached to the MID improperly.

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4 years 7 months ago #9561 by jmhyp
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Always wanted to see Sam or Gunny put Kimba through a Sim where a spray of chocolate incapacitates Ayla. "It's on your MID! We put it in the computer." :)
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4 years 7 months ago - 4 years 7 months ago #9622 by Greatdingo
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E. E. Nalley wrote: You proceed from a false assumption; a MID is not a government document. It is issued by private, nonprofit, nongovernmental organization


Aren't they issued by the MCO, and isn't that a supra-national organization?
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4 years 7 months ago #9624 by E. E. Nalley
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Greatdingo wrote:

E. E. Nalley wrote: You proceed from a false assumption; a MID is not a government document. It is issued by private, nonprofit, Nongovernmental Organization


Aren't they issued by the MCO, and isn't that a supra-national organization?


Yes they are issued by the MCO, and yes the MCO is a multinational not-for-profit. But they are as federal as Federal Express. The MCO is not a governmental organization; it is not a part of any government, but rather is a private corporation funded primarily by the Goodkind family. If you can imagine IBM suddenly issuing badges and guns to all of its field representatives and claiming to have jurisdiction over computer crime, because they quote invented unquote the personal computer, that's the same league as the MCO.

Now in our world, the MCO exists in a new class of corporations which are called Non-Governmental Organizations, or NGOs. These organizations act like they are government bodies filling a specific role, and many governments make use of the as a service they can provide without having to pay a tax burden, but they are not a part of that government.

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4 years 7 months ago #9627 by Astrodragon
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DanZilla wrote: Going back to the first example... no, something which takes away the ability to become a Rager wouldn't necessarily be something that the school personnel would share... HOWEVER, something that GIVES the ability to become a Rager would most definitely be shared at the first opportunity and, if possible, be taken away from the student to be returned, or not, when they leave the school.



A question I have regarding where this thread has gone and another also touched on... Is it Illegal to falsify and withhold information from an MID. If so, what is the crime and what punishments can be levied. Is it exacerbated if the false/withheld information and powers are not "harmless" but could present a clear and present danger?


To withold? Well, its up to the MCO to ask the right questions, isnt it?
And while deliberately lying in response is one thing (and probably is an offence), being economical with the truth is, again, something for the MCO to work out.

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4 years 7 months ago #9631 by Mister D
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jmhyp wrote: Always wanted to see Sam or Gunny put Kimba through a Sim where a spray of chocolate incapacitates Ayla. "It's on your MID! We put it in the computer." :)


Wouldn't Ayla's reply be something like, "You didn't use choclate of sufficiently high quality." :lol:


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4 years 7 months ago #9632 by Astrodragon
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jmhyp wrote: Always wanted to see Sam or Gunny put Kimba through a Sim where a spray of chocolate incapacitates Ayla. "It's on your MID! We put it in the computer." :)


Wouldn't Ayla's reply be something like, "You didn't use choclate of sufficiently high quality." :lol:


Or 'You used 'American' chocolate, not real chocolate' :dry:

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4 years 7 months ago - 4 years 7 months ago #9678 by jmhyp
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Neither Sam nor Gunny are unaware of Ayla's penchant for finer things.
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