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4 years 3 weeks ago #1865 by Zero0
Zero0 replied the topic: Wiki Wiki Wiki!
Just a quick thing, if the whole blank page thing happens again to any page in a Wikia wiki, just add ?action=purge to the end of the URL. That should kickstart the wiki's servers and let the page display correctly.

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4 years 2 weeks ago - 4 years 2 weeks ago #2225 by Phoenix Spiritus
Phoenix Spiritus replied the topic: Wiki Wiki Wiki!
So Something Kristin and I where looking at. Currently if you click on a tag link you get a big long spool of all the stories that feature that tag (e.g. Mischief ). On the other hand, when Elrod was having issues accessing the Wiki, I tried to copy the data onto this site into a blog, and Kristin saw it and set it up as Skybolt's tag information (see here ).

Now it would be a lot of work, but what do people think of the idea of having the Tags for this site copying the Wiki information for the characters (including a link to the Wiki)?
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4 years 2 weeks ago #2227 by Dawnfyre
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wouldn't make any difference to me. tags and I do not interact. That comes from sites where site search is via tags, and I get 10k results, with ZERO results on the topic I was looking for.

As far as I'm concerned, tags are graphic bloat in the user interface of a site.

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4 years 2 weeks ago #2235 by NeoMagus
NeoMagus replied the topic: Wiki Wiki Wiki!

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: So Something Kristin and I where looking at. Currently if you click on a tag link you get a big long spool of all the stories that feature that tag (e.g. Mischief ). On the other hand, when Elrod was having issues accessing the Wiki, I tried to copy the data onto this site into a blog, and Kristin saw it and set it up as Skybolt's tag information (see here ).

Now it would be a lot of work, but what do people think of the idea of having the Tags for this site copying the Wiki information for the characters (including a link to the Wiki)?


Hmm...that actually looks pretty good to me. It's a good way to get some basic information quickly, which would likely be helpful to new readers (and older readers who have just forgotten the details of a particular character).

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4 years 2 weeks ago #2239 by Valentine
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Phoenix Spiritus wrote: So Something Kristin and I where looking at. Currently if you click on a tag link you get a big long spool of all the stories that feature that tag (e.g. Mischief ). On the other hand, when Elrod was having issues accessing the Wiki, I tried to copy the data onto this site into a blog, and Kristin saw it and set it up as Skybolt's tag information (see here ).

Now it would be a lot of work, but what do people think of the idea of having the Tags for this site copying the Wiki information for the characters (including a link to the Wiki)?


I have to admit I am torn on this idea. For one, the Wiki pages won't have a link to all the characters appearances, and not even all the stories where the character is important or even a POV.

I don't know how hard this would be, but instead of the wall o' stories, if a "wall" of links to the stories and perhaps a link to the wiki page. Can you imagine the size of the wall of Diane's stories? And if that wall is by date, different stories are going to get mixed.

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4 years 2 weeks ago #2240 by E M Pisek
E M Pisek replied the topic: Wiki Wiki Wiki!
If its direct tags to Wiki I can see a use for it. I also understand that it will be a very slow process to implement but how hard will it also be to maintain? Over time new data will be imported as new characters are introduced, but what about old articles? The internet (as an example) is littered with broken links and such.

I'm just concerned about the resources needed to keep such an undertaking current. If its not to hard to learn, I'd be willing to take a crack at helping. But you would have to be patient with me as I get the feel of it.

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4 years 2 weeks ago #2243 by Phoenix Spiritus
Phoenix Spiritus replied the topic: Wiki Wiki Wiki!
I think the short blurb from the Wiki, a picture is we have one (and the creator is OK with us using it), then the link to the wiki along with links to the stories would be nice.

That seems simple enough to keep track of and make, considering mostly it will be copy past from the wiki.

As far as how hard it is to do, according to Kristin they edit like the blogs do.

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4 years 2 weeks ago #2247 by Sir Lee
Sir Lee replied the topic: Wiki Wiki Wiki!
I don't use tags myself, but...
Well, I don't see much point in kinda-sorta duplicating the wiki content in the main site. Particularly if this content has to be manually copied by an admin -- we should work to minimize admin work, not increase it.
My preference would go towards doing something that the wiki (at least in its current structure) *cannot* do, such as pulling all the stories featuring a character. Yes, we could start creating Wiki categories for each major character and tag the stories accordingly, but the character bios do convey that information already.

If it's feasible, I would suggest that the tags invoke some sort of script to not only dynamically generate a list of relevant stories (not necessarily pull the stories themselves, which could be a very long page, but if the only ready-made solution compiles all the stories, go for it), but if feasible, add -- either at the top or the bottom -- a link to the relevant wiki page. Not pull the content from the wiki, just a link.

Yes, there might be a few dozen broken links due to slightly different naming approaches for characters, but we can address those on the wiki side with redirects and, possibly, renaming pages.

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4 years 2 weeks ago #2248 by Valentine
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Sir Lee wrote: I don't use tags myself, but...
Well, I don't see much point in kinda-sorta duplicating the wiki content in the main site. Particularly if this content has to be manually copied by an admin -- we should work to minimize admin work, not increase it.
My preference would go towards doing something that the wiki (at least in its current structure) *cannot* do, such as pulling all the stories featuring a character. Yes, we could start creating Wiki categories for each major character and tag the stories accordingly, but the character bios do convey that information already.


I am working on the reverse, listing all of the characters appearing and mentioned in each story.

If it's feasible, I would suggest that the tags invoke some sort of script to not only dynamically generate a list of relevant stories (not necessarily pull the stories themselves, which could be a very long page, but if the only ready-made solution compiles all the stories, go for it), but if feasible, add -- either at the top or the bottom -- a link to the relevant wiki page. Not pull the content from the wiki, just a link.

Yes, there might be a few dozen broken links due to slightly different naming approaches for characters, but we can address those on the wiki side with redirects and, possibly, renaming pages.


Fixing the names on the Wiki should be easier than Kristin messing with stuff here. Plus she already has enough to do here.

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4 years 2 weeks ago - 4 years 2 weeks ago #2251 by Phoenix Spiritus
Phoenix Spiritus replied the topic: Wiki Wiki Wiki!
The tags already list each story that is so tagged when clicked (currently as a long list of the full scripts for the stories, but hopefully at a future date we can change that to just a list of links) but each story needs to be tagged with the characters for it to work.

Also, I don't want to do the full Wiki page on the tag, but having a description and a link to the full wiki page would be good (so those that just want to know who someone is don't have to go to the wiki to find out).

Also, I think tagging the stories here with all their character would be better then in the Wiki, I know the big long list of everybody at all is distracting, a list of the main characters, yes, but if all that is mentioned is 'the grunts' in passing, listing out all the names of the grunts as appearing I. The story seems excessive. If a particular character (like Mule) is called out by name, fair enough, but a passing mention to the grunts probably doesn't need to be listed.
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