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1 week 4 days ago #69640 by Softdreams
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Hello, I'm currently working on a character, I'm very reluctant to give out more details since this specific event takes place very far into the story. But, my character is rated as a: Avatar - 2, either a mid or high level 2. I need a spirit that can "grant" them at least a Wiz - 3 rating. Without causing any major, if any, physical alterations.

Throw some ideas my way, please.

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1 week 4 days ago #69642 by null0trooper
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Softdreams wrote: Hello, I'm currently working on a character, I'm very reluctant to give out more details since this specific event takes place very far into the story. But, my character is rated as a: Avatar - 2, either a mid or high level 2. I need a spirit that can "grant" them at least a Wiz - 3 rating. Without causing any major, if any, physical alterations.


So, you want a spirit that willingly puts more magical energy into the host's well than the host is providing to sustain the spirit, without any modifications that might make the process easier? Why would any sane being sign up for that?

That might work for a paladin (Ignore D&D), who already embodies the spirit's goals and ideals. No one can recommend such a spirit without knowing the character's personality and ideals.


NB: "WIZ-3" means your character is recharging essence at a rate comparable to Conjure, Hecate, and maybe Roulette.

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1 week 4 days ago #69643 by Softdreams
Softdreams replied the topic: Spirits
Thanks for answering, Null!

Regarding the energy exchange bit, wouldn't that up to debate? The spiritual energy produced by a hallow isn't equal to other magical energies.

Kristin Darken wrote: Essence can also be used as a means to create artificial hallows and to sustain a spirit, but typically at a high cost to a mage (ie spirit energy is a higher order / more dense energy than spirit energy).


Now, when it comes to physical modifications... Yes, that does sound a little unreasonable of me... I'm okay with internal changes (physiology etc...), just not extreme changes to their external appearance. Keyword: extreme.

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1 week 4 days ago - 1 week 4 days ago #69644 by Astrodragon
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Um
The Avatar level doesn't correspond directly to what power level it can give to the host.
A higher avatar level basically allows more powerful/versatile/intelligent/etc spirit to be hosted.
Now in general, the more powerful the spirit the more they can do/offer. But they can also be specialised, hence giving mor epower in that area than an overall more powerful spirit could do.

So a Av-2 hosting a spirit can get a Wiz-3 rating.

The power level required to support the spirit doesn't have a one-to-one correspondance to essence use. The problem you mention would occur when the spirit was providing the essence. Unless the spirit is powerful enough to collect essence, this is a by-your-bootstraps situation.

But all a Wiz-3 rating means is that you can collect a certain amount of essence from an external source. This doesnt have to be from the spirit, the spirit might be able to link you to an external source. Its provding and mayne maintaining the link, it isnt providing the power.

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1 week 3 days ago - 1 week 3 days ago #69655 by Softdreams
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Thank you so much for answering, AstroDragon!

That clears things up (。’▽’。)

Moving onto the other issue, I was thinking of a spirit that could help its avatar draw the Essence that's floating freely from the environment (like most Wiz-type mutants do), but due to the fact that most spirits seem to be specialized that proves difficult. UNLESS, it's sort of a "witchy" type spirit, something along the lines of a "sorceress" spirit, or spirits that are naturally magically inclined, like, foxes, or cats.

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What external power sources could a spirit potentially tie an Avatar to?

Won't this create Essence-handling issues similar to Dragonfyre's?

Any ideas or in-universe information that might be of help?
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1 week 3 days ago #69660 by Mylian
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There are spirits that can assist in gathering essence, yes. Okami is an example of this. And it does potentially create those essence-handling issues.

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1 week 3 days ago #69661 by Astrodragon
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Softdreams wrote: Thank you so much for answering, AstroDragon!

That clears things up (。’▽’。)

Moving onto the other issue, I was thinking of a spirit that could help its avatar draw the Essence that's floating freely from the environment (like most Wiz-type mutants do), but due to the fact that most spirits seem to be specialized that proves difficult. UNLESS, it's sort of a "witchy" type spirit, something along the lines of a "sorceress" spirit, or spirits that are naturally magically inclined, like, foxes, or cats.

Editing this in:

What external power sources could a spirit potentially tie an Avatar to?

Won't this create Essence-handling issues similar to Dragonfyre's?

Any ideas or in-universe information that might be of help?


There is a problem with a spirit tying in to an energy source itself, as iirc they dont have a well as such. Kristin might be able to clarify this. If they could just tie in, they wouldnt nbeed to leech of an avatar... So they'd have to be more subtle or delicate about it

Dragonsfyre's issues are nothing to do with the energy source, see E'er parts 1-4 for why :dry:

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1 week 3 days ago #69662 by null0trooper
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Mylian wrote: There are spirits that can assist in gathering essence, yes. Okami is an example of this. And it does potentially create those essence-handling issues.


Okami would be another of those "do not generalize from this" examples.

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1 week 3 days ago #69663 by Astrodragon
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Okami is a god, and Hikaru is not a normal avatar. Different rules apply

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1 week 3 days ago #69664 by Mylian
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But couldn't a lesser spirit enhance essence-gathering to a lesser degree?
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