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Question Goodkinds vs Super Grover?

8 years 3 months ago #1 by Cryptic
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  • I'm throwing in some background news blurbs for Let the Storm Rage On, and one that came to mind was someone making a stink about Super Grover on Sesame Street. While he is a bumbling hero, he is portrayed in a good light. I'm just not sure if they actually gave him a back story that H1/Goodkind co would object to.

    Is it believable for the Goodkinds or some anti-Mutant/hero group go after Super Grover/PBS as the character 'corrupts our youth'?

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    8 years 3 months ago #2 by slapshots
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  • only if they go against quailman on doug and gizmoduck from ducktales
    8 years 3 months ago #3 by Cryptic
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  • slapshots wrote: only if they go against quailman on doug and gizmoduck from ducktales

    Nah, they'd go after Giro Gearloose as he's the obviously dangerous devisor. Gizmoduck is just a half wit minion.

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    8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #4 by Bek D Corbin
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  • No, while Rev. Phelps of the Easterboro Church might go after Supergrover, Quailman and Gizmoduck, the Goodkinds and H1! most decidedly would NOT.

    Y'see, Phelps and his followers are notorious cranks, and for them, any press is good press. Any reaction (shy of a berserker busting in and slaughtering everyone) is a good one.

    But the Goodkinds and H1! are all about credibility. They do everything they can to avoid being labeled as Hate groups, or cranks or hysterics. The Goodkinds have managed to be Internationally influential, in the face of the strange, mind-bending powers of mutants, because they are exceedingly careful, going on paranoid, about how they operate, who they trust, and what they allow themselves to be quoted. Humanity First! is more of the same. Remember, in 'Silver Linings', they didn't say anything about the Silver Ghost until after Dr. Diabolik's raid, when, let's face it, they didn't have any real choice. Even then, they worked it around until they came up with a way of setting the context so that the possibility that SG might be a mutant was seen as a strike against her.

    Speak out against a cute blue fuzzy lovable whatzit like Grover?

    They're not that stupid.
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    8 years 3 months ago #5 by mhalpern
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  • Bek D Corbin wrote: No, while Rev. Phelps of the Easterboro Church might go after Supergrover, Quailman and Gizmoduck, the Goodkinds and H1! most decidedly would NOT.

    Y'see, Phelps and his followers are notorious cranks, and for them, any press is good press. Any reaction (shy of a berserker busting in and slaughtering everyone) is a good one.

    But the Goodkinds and H1! are all about credibility. They do everything they can to avoid being labeled as Hate groups, or cranks or hysterics. The Goodkinds have managed to be Internationally influential, in the face of the strange, mind-bending powers of mutants, because they are exceedingly careful, going on paranoid, about how they operate, who they trust, and what they allow themselves to be quoted. Humanity First! is more of the same. Remember, in 'Silver Linings', they didn't say anything about the Silver Ghost until after Dr. Diabolik's raid, when, let's face it, they didn't have any real choice. Even then, they worked it around until they came up with a way of setting the context so that the possibility that SG might be a ghost was seen as a strike against her.

    Speak out against a cute blue fuzzy lovable whatzit like Grover?

    They're not that stupid.


    Now Marvels X-men, H1 might speak out against, Goodkinds, not so much, and NOT because of Ayla, but because it can easily be labeled a satire in the WU and they will only draw more attention to it, and themselves.

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    8 years 3 months ago #6 by Valentine
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  • mhalpern wrote: Now Marvels X-men, H1 might speak out against, Goodkinds, not so much, and NOT because of Ayla, but because it can easily be labeled a satire in the WU and they will only draw more attention to it, and themselves.


    Besides everyone knows that Batman is the Goodkinds favorite Superhero. They probably put pressure on the Studios to keep making the original series of movies.

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    8 years 3 months ago #7 by Sir Lee
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  • Of course (tm Ayla). Batman is 100% human and a billionaire, who uses the power of his money and the products of his research company to impose his view of order, trample all over legitimate government and make superpowered guys look like chumps. He's practically a Goodkind already. What's not to like, from their POV?

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    8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #8 by NJM1564
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  • Sir Lee wrote: Of course (tm Ayla) What's not to like, from their POV?


    That he won't vilify mutants. Or kill them. Not even ones who have proven to be dangerous in the past and could be dangerous in the future.
    Ref: "Justice League Unlimited" Session 2 finally "Epilogue"
    A mutant known as Ace's powers go out of control and threaten to destroy the city. He is given choice to kill her or risk himself. He instead sits with her as she dies. Her own power ending her life.
    It's a very sad story that shows the compassion of Batman. Something the senior Goodkinds seem to have lost, or never had.
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  • NJM1564 wrote:

    Sir Lee wrote: Of course (tm Ayla) What's not to like, from their POV?


    That he won't vilify mutants. Or kill them. Not even ones who have proven to be dangerous in the past and could be dangerous in the future.
    Ref: "Justice League Unlimited" Session 2 finally "Epilogue"
    A mutant known as Ace's powers go out of control and threaten to destroy the city. He is given choice to kill her or risk himself. He instead sits with her as she dies. Her own power ending her life.
    It's a very sad story that shows the compassion of Batman. Something the senior Goodkinds seem to have lost, or never had.

    As for the lethal force, depends on the incarnation, he does make weapons specifically to kill Superman, to prevent him from having the chance of turning against humanity, in a sense that is EXACTLY what Goodkind Defense Industries is all about.

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    8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #10 by NJM1564
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  • mhalpern wrote:

    NJM1564 wrote:

    Sir Lee wrote: Of course (tm Ayla) What's not to like, from their POV?


    That he won't vilify mutants. Or kill them. Not even ones who have proven to be dangerous in the past and could be dangerous in the future.
    Ref: "Justice League Unlimited" Session 2 finally "Epilogue"
    A mutant known as Ace's powers go out of control and threaten to destroy the city. He is given choice to kill her or risk himself. He instead sits with her as she dies. Her own power ending her life.
    It's a very sad story that shows the compassion of Batman. Something the senior Goodkinds seem to have lost, or never had.

    As for the lethal force, depends on the incarnation, he does make weapons specifically to kill Superman, to prevent him from having the chance of turning against humanity, in a sense that is EXACTLY what Goodkind Defense Industries is all about.



    Supposed to be about. Supposed. The ideal is to never use such things.
    But we both know the Goodkinds would use such weapons at any excuse. Batman would only use it as the very last option.
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