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8 years 2 months ago #1 by Cryptic
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  • Admittedly I am still doing research on my own, but why did the Cabal choose Dragons to be the big bosses for the Court of the Air? To me they're more Fire/Water depending on West vs East.

    I am a caffeine heathen; I prefer the waters of the mountain over the juice of the bean. Keep the Dews coming and no one will be hurt.
    8 years 2 months ago - 8 years 2 months ago #2 by JG
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  • Because nothing else was powerful enough to take the skies from them. in this case, the symbolism of the Air Element is irrelevant. The Dragons DOMINATED the skies, and the northern reaches of the world.

    The "Elemental symbolism" of the five-fold court was largely irrelevant to whom the court's masters were. And the Center Court is not what people might think.
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    8 years 2 months ago #3 by Bek D Corbin
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  • Actually, when you're talking about dragons, it's less about East vs West than it is about Celestial vs Chthonic, that is 'Of the Heavens/Skies vs. Of the Deep Dark/Earth. The Celestial Dragons, which include the Feathered Serpents of MesoAmerica, the Rainbow Serpents of Australia, and of course the majestic Heavenly Dragons of China, tend to be rain-bringers and are generally considered to be benign. Or at least as benign as something that can cause the raw havoc that a storm can create. BTW, my personal theory is that these are the 'fire-breathing' dragons, as the 'fire' is an analogy for lightning. Remember, until about 200 years ago, there was no real connection between lightning and electricity. Lightning was 'fire from Heaven'.

    Chthonic dragons on the other hand, are usually pretty clearly blanket bad. They are connected with the deep places, the horrid dark, and polluted springs. While Celestial dragons can be destructive, their havoc is a momentary thing, and they leave life and renewal in their wake; Chthonic dragons lay waste to regions, leaving blights and desolations. Chthonic dragons include the Basilisk, the Lernean Hydra, the Japanese Oroichi, and the dragon that Baron George Franckenstein slew. They don't breathe fire, but their breath is noxious, and they often have stingers in their tails.

    World-wide, one of the classic images is of the Celestial vs the Chthonic, usually in the form of an Eagle or other major bird of prey locked in combat with some manner of serpent. Among MANY variations of this is the symbol of an eagle and a snake on a cactus that is on Mexico's flag; it was a MAJOR cultural image for the Aztecs. However, the image of two dragons locked in combat entwined with each other. I think that it could be argued that this is a non-avian variant of the Celestial vs Chthonic conflict.
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  • Bek D Corbin wrote: However, the image of two dragons locked in combat entwined with each other.

    Sorry desciption makes me think to something other than combat..... like Rabbit vs Cat


    Sorry, I couldn't resist.
    8 years 2 months ago #5 by Cryptic
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  • Thanks Bek, JG, that helps me lots.

    It be a stretch to add "Darkness" under Air though?

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  • Tsk, Those Dragons are not locked in combat.

    It's obviously two caring, sensitive dragons giving each other a well-needed cuddle in the face of all those nasty people who go on about how evil and nasty poor, misunderstood dragons are.

    I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
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  • Bek D Corbin wrote: World-wide, one of the classic images is of the Celestial vs the Chthonic, usually in the form of an Eagle or other major bird of prey locked in combat with some manner of serpent. Among MANY variations of this is the symbol of an eagle and a snake on a cactus that is on Mexico's flag; it was a MAJOR cultural image for the Aztecs. However, the image of two dragons locked in combat entwined with each other. I think that it could be argued that this is a non-avian variant of the Celestial vs Chthonic conflict.


    Thor vs. Jörmungandr? The thunder god vs the world serpent?

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    8 years 2 months ago #8 by Sir Lee
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  • Oh yeah.

    Don't call me "Shirley." You will surely make me surly.
    8 years 2 months ago #9 by null0trooper
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  • Astrodragon wrote: Tsk, Those Dragons are not locked in combat.

    It's obviously two caring, sensitive dragons giving each other a well-needed cuddle in the face of all those nasty people who go on about how evil and nasty poor, misunderstood dragons are.


    Reminds me of a classic exchange between Madeline Kahn and Graham Chapman:
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