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7 years 11 months ago #1 by Cryptic
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  • How bad does a student have to be to warrant a call to the parents, besides the unconscious for three days thing?
    Did Lancer's family get a call after his burn out event for example?

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    7 years 11 months ago #2 by Sir Lee
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  • Well, if he can be discharged the same day or overnight at most, and he can call his parents himself if he wishes, it probably does not require an official call from the school.
    More serious injuries, though, beg the question of "were the parents told?" For instance, Toni was unconscious for many hours after the fight with Montana. Spark sealed herself in an egg. Sebastiano probably had to have GI tract surgery...

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    7 years 11 months ago #3 by lighttech
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  • Sir Lee wrote: Sebastiano probably had to have GI tract surgery...


    and the help of one brave electrician!

    but still---who has pics of that?
    lol!

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    7 years 11 months ago #4 by NJM1564
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  • lighttech wrote:

    Sir Lee wrote: Sebastiano probably had to have GI tract surgery...


    and the help of one brave electrician!

    but still---who has pics of that?
    lol!


    Officially no one. Unofficially greasy is sitting on a gold mine and doesn't even know it. Pepper didn't care because there weren't any hot chicks in it.
    7 years 11 months ago #5 by DanZilla
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  • We've talked about the school having "in loco parentis", authority to act in place of a parent, in the past... any time the school needs to use that authority they'll notify the family/guardian of the student. On top of that any medical, psychological/behavioral or problematic scholastic issues will generally be discussed with the parents as well, whenever possible.

    Having said that, it doesn't always play into the story or provide much detail so we haven't shown much of it but it HAS been shown and talked about a few times.
    7 years 11 months ago #6 by elrodw
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  • We KNOW from Lanie's experience that after a certain time, it's policy to call parents, and Mrs. Carson did with Lanie's parents. We KNOW that with all her troubles, Kayda's parents were kept in the loop. So it's safe to assume that there's a policy with discretion. Example - a regen 6 gets a leg blown off in a lab accident, and regenerates it in a couple of hours. Call parents? Maybe. Maybe after-the-fact, because it's not critical.
    Someone who has no regen, like Greasy, has been beaten senseless - no doubt his parents were called.

    It's got to be a judgement call.

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    7 years 11 months ago #7 by Cryptic
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  • elrodw wrote: It's got to be a judgement call.


    Or "As the plot warrants."

    That was kind of what I had a feeling it would be, but I wanted to check. Hmm, thinking I'll skip the phone home from the school then, as it would screw with the flow of the up coming scenes.

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    7 years 11 months ago #8 by Kristin Darken
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  • One of the things about an issue like this is... does it really matter to the story?

    Keep in mind that most WU stories are either first person narrative from the protagonist's perspective OR they are limited third person (told from the perspective of a token 'Watson' in the room with the protagonist... a la Watson telling stories about Holmes. In either of these cases, there is no reason for answering the question... because the student, or someone nearby, would never see the office make the call. If they DID find out, it would be because someone told them outside the event itself or as an after effect (the parent calls to check on them).

    Only an omnipotent/omnicienct would see the call happen as we do.

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    7 years 11 months ago #9 by Valentine
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  • Just because it isn't shown, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Also some parents aren't going to care if their nasty mutant child was injured, others won't be able to afford either time off work or the expense of traveling to Whateley.

    Consider that most of the families we have seen in the stories are decently well off. Gracie, 'Shine's mom, Jade's dad, being some of the exceptions, and two of those have had a bit of a turn around. Other families have been mentioned, Aquerna's family for example, but they aren't directly shown.

    Hmmmmmmm, I wonder if there is something in fastfood preventing mutations.

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    7 years 11 months ago #10 by null0trooper
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  • Valentine wrote: Hmmmmmmm, I wonder if there is something in fastfood preventing mutations.


    "A Twinkie a day keeps the mutations away!"

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    7 years 11 months ago #11 by lighttech
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  • null0trooper wrote:

    Valentine wrote: Hmmmmmmm, I wonder if there is something in fastfood preventing mutations.


    "A Twinkie a day keeps the mutations away!"


    aren't Twinkies mutated already?

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    7 years 11 months ago #12 by Hardric
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  • NJM1564 wrote:

    lighttech wrote:

    Sir Lee wrote: Sebastiano probably had to have GI tract surgery...


    and the help of one brave electrician!

    but still---who has pics of that?
    lol!


    Officially no one. Unofficially greasy is sitting on a gold mine and doesn't even know it. Pepper didn't care because there weren't any hot chicks in it.


    There is a potential for a pretty fun story there. *Imagines Greasy running from every single group interested by the pics and trying to figure out why the heck he's running for his life* I can't be the only one thinking about this!
    7 years 11 months ago - 7 years 11 months ago #13 by lighttech
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  • Hardric wrote:

    NJM1564 wrote:

    lighttech wrote:

    Sir Lee wrote: Sebastiano probably had to have GI tract surgery...


    and the help of one brave electrician!

    but still---who has pics of that?
    lol!


    Officially no one. Unofficially greasy is sitting on a gold mine and doesn't even know it. Pepper didn't care because there weren't any hot chicks in it.


    There is a potential for a pretty fun story there. *Imagines Greasy running from every single group interested by the pics and trying to figure out why the heck he's running for his life* I can't be the only one thinking about this!


    that sounds like it could end up being a total Macguffin run!

    "awwww the pics are..........." and the fire claims them!

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    7 years 10 months ago #14 by Hardric
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  • lighttech wrote:

    Hardric wrote:

    NJM1564 wrote:

    lighttech wrote:

    Sir Lee wrote: Sebastiano probably had to have GI tract surgery...


    and the help of one brave electrician!

    but still---who has pics of that?
    lol!


    Officially no one. Unofficially greasy is sitting on a gold mine and doesn't even know it. Pepper didn't care because there weren't any hot chicks in it.


    There is a potential for a pretty fun story there. *Imagines Greasy running from every single group interested by the pics and trying to figure out why the heck he's running for his life* I can't be the only one thinking about this!


    that sounds like it could end up being a total Macguffin run!

    "awwww the pics are..........." and the fire claims them!


    Or at least it seems like this. And a few moments later, just as Don Buffoono is ego triping somewhere thinking he's safe of that burn, he hears the 'Senor Forrest!' scream from that January day... He follows the noise and sees his humiliation enfolding on a screen for all to see. And summum of humiliation it's all because of Greasy, who becomes the student's hero, if only for a few minutes. This story just begs to be wroten, people, just give it a chance please.
    7 years 10 months ago #15 by Schol-R-LEA
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  • Valentine wrote: Just because it isn't shown, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Also some parents aren't going to care if their nasty mutant child was injured, others won't be able to afford either time off work or the expense of traveling to Whateley.


    This last is almost certainly the situation with Spark's family. Fly out all the way from Nice, France? I don't think we ever heard much of anything about her family, but even if the were wealthy, it could take days to arrange even an emergency flight depending on the circumstances (hell, the same would be true even from California, and that wouldn't require a visa).

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  • Who gets called if Jade is sent to Doyle?

    I know Billie's parents are planning on adopting her but I don't know if that has gone through yet.

    Her father isn't allowed to contact hr legally, and wouldn't know how to.

    Her foster parents don't know about Whateley, and she stays with friends durring the beak anyway.

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    7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #17 by NJM1564
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  • Jarjaross wrote: Who gets called if Jade is sent to Doyle?

    I know Billie's parents are planning on adopting her but I don't know if that has gone through yet.

    Her father isn't allowed to contact hr legally, and wouldn't know how to.

    Her foster parents don't know about Whateley, and she stays with friends durring the beak anyway.


    It could be no one. Whateley can serve as in loco parentis (in place of parents) so they don't really need to call anybody. When they do it's to advise those who would worry about the student in question. But Billies parents would probably be called even if there is no formal adoption yet as long as the faculty knows they should call them.
    Though the student's preferences would effect who is contacted too. Otherwise parents of any student would have to be called. Even if they had disowned the student or think they are dead. But as long as in loco parentis is in effect then Tinks parents won't have to hear her dead daughter is in the hospitable for sugar withdrawal.
    And this is also true for disciplinary action. So the Goodkinds don't need to know that ayla ripped some guys... male part off.
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    7 years 10 months ago #18 by Sir Lee
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  • In Ayla's case, his "guardian of record" (the person legally responsible for him) is his sister Gracie. So no, nobody would call Dad Goodkind. The same applies to many other students.
    I wonder, however, who is Jade's "guardian of record." I doubt that a corporation, like the school, can take that role. Maybe the trustees assume the legal burden. Or the headmistress. There might be legal precedent...

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  • Sir Lee wrote: In Ayla's case, his "guardian of record" (the person legally responsible for him) is his sister Gracie. So no, nobody would call Dad Goodkind. The same applies to many other students.
    I wonder, however, who is Jade's "guardian of record." I doubt that a corporation, like the school, can take that role. Maybe the trustees assume the legal burden. Or the headmistress. There might be legal precedent...


    Oganisations can do that. As mentioned in TT1: Twisted Triplets the church has done so in the past and in that story the MCO tried as well.
    7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #20 by Phoenix Spiritus
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  • I think in one of the shopping excursions stories Jadis explained there is a lawyer who has guardianship of her and her brother especially so that the state can't try and claim them as state wards.
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    7 years 10 months ago #21 by Valentine
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  • Jarjaross wrote: Who gets called if Jade is sent to Doyle?

    I know Billie's parents are planning on adopting her but I don't know if that has gone through yet.

    Her father isn't allowed to contact hr legally, and wouldn't know how to.

    Her foster parents don't know about Whateley, and she stays with friends durring the beak anyway.


    Mr. Sinclair.

    Jade 3 wrote: “It so happens that I was able to contact Miss Sinclair’s father last night. I informed him of the situation and was able to get the necessary paperwork signed and faxed here. So you needn’t worry about that. If Miss Sinclair wants to room with Miss Wilson, there is no problem with her doing so.”

    Jade’s mind was awhirl. They’d contacted her father? And he’d AGREED? She was terrified that he would come and drag her off.

    “Was he truly informed of the risks that his daughter would be taking? And was her mother informed as well?”

    “If you had looked into this a little more closely, Ms. Hartford, you would know that Mr. Sinclair is a widower. And, I took care to record everything. I think you will find that I was very thorough in my description of the risks.”

    Wait a minute… “Mr. Sinclair?” What was going on?


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