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6 years 5 months ago #1 by ebony841
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  • Dear moderators, feel free to put this topic to another section if it didn't fit here. I am not sure of it myself.

    I am giving a scenario.

    Suppose that there is only two major factions of antagonists in generation 1. Nimbus and the Bastard.

    Suppose also that they are allied against each other but they are wary of each other that they do not use their full power. Nimbus could form a very potent Nimbus force and bring submission to the spirits but based on his precognition spells, the Bastard could take over Nimbus force and Nimbus is thus reluctant to use it. The Bastard could infect humans quickly and efficiently with his foul virus but he sensed that Nimbus could gain absolute control over his infected human army and he decides to limit his infection to only weres as much as possible.

    If you are the head of the contingency plan and have only resources to attack one of the two strongholds, which will you choose? Please reply with your reasons.
    6 years 5 months ago - 6 years 5 months ago #2 by CrazyMinh
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    ...the heck do you mean???

    I mean, I understand some of what you put there, but would you kindly rephrase what you wrote? I apologise for having the post this, but the context of your question did not make sense.

    EDIT: sorry, forgot to elaborate

    1. So, the f**k is a 'Nimbus force'? Do you mean how he has apparently been gathering spirits, or do you mean his apparent plan to 'steal' the Champion Force?? At the present time, the endgame has only just begun gearing up, and as such this may be a premature time to start making definite assumptions about what exactly Nimbus's plans are. As for the bastard...so far the majority of the contact with him has been with his minions, and to my knowledge (correct me if I'm wrong) very few or no POV segments from him have been provided. So, we don't really know the details of their plans as of yet. At the very least, we know figments of what their endgames might be, but we don't know the full story.

    2. Factions. Now, I can see the Bastard having a faction. Indeed, he does have a army.

    But Nimbus?

    Look, as I see Nimbus, he's a very, very, very covert sort of villain. He doesn't have permanent allies: he has pawns- expendable ones at that. He doesn't have friends- too much of a personal connection. He also wouldn't bother having a faction. They'd just get in his way.

    So, if anything, he'd avoid amassing forces, instead manipulating friend-against-friend, brother-against-brother, etcetera. So yeah. That part is vaguely confusing to ask in context.

    3. What spirits? They aren't a f**king character blob: each spirit is a individual with it's own quirks and personality. Grizzly is very different from Coyote, and thus with all the other spirits we've seen. As I understand it, Nimbus is not trying to control all the spirits, but to either create a antithesis to the Champion Force, or to steal and corrupt the actual force.

    4. The Bastard HAS already infected a whole shitload of humans. Also weres. Also other things. So, I don't see what that has to do with Nimbus's spirit debacle. The Bastard wouldn't necessarily have a interest in Nimbus's plans, or if he did, it wouldn't be his MO to steal the hypothetical 'Nimbus Force' you refer to. He'd have no use for it, and he'd have to figure out how to use Nimbus's unique 'brand' of magic in order to make effective use of it.

    5. Foul virus. That seems a poor choice of words, considering the voodoo wolf 'virus' is less of a virus rather than a corruption of a being's self and body. I mean, sure. It MIGHT have a biological component. But I'd hazard a guess that it's mainly a magical thing rather than a traditional virus like the Flu.

    6. Nimbus & The Bastard: they might be allied, they might not be. We know that they are vaguely aware of the other's existence, but other than that their operational areas are on opposite sides of the continent. It's highly unlikely that they would even form a wary alliance. Rather, the Bastard would see Nimbus as a upstart, the Bastard being a tad few millennia older than Nimbus, and a f**king s**tload more powerful in raw strength.

    7. How exactly would Nimbus assume control over The Bastard's army. That, with our current setup, would be a complete Deus Ex Machina, and would possibly constitute a ass-pull. It would make absolutely no sense- with what we currently know- for Nimbus to have prepared that extensively for a contingency that is very dependant on a specific series of events to occur. Therefore, this is confusing.

    8. What contingency plan, and whose?? Your context makes it seem like it's Nimbus's plan, but it could also be Hartford's, The Bastard's, Team Kimba's, hell, it could even be the F**king POTUS's contingency plan with the way you've phrased it. Although that last one is contextually dubious. As far as the current lead up has shown, the heroes are mostly in the dark about the plans of Nimbus, and thus have not prepared anything. The most likely of the two choices to plan so extensively would be Nimbus, and even then it would also be a ass-pull for him to have prepared for the Bastard coming ALL the way from the west coast to simply steal whatever Nimbus is preparing. This is something that the Bastard wouldn't even NEED to do, considering his power and age. Seriously. More detail.

    Now, I don't mean to sound rude writing this. But the endgame is scheduled IRL for sometime mid-2019. I think it's too early even now to be making such drastic assumptions. Hell, even my rebuttals above are based off the limited evidence available, as well as basic common sense. If anything, I don't even think this scenario would occur in the way you've described it. The CC are way above this level of logic. In fact, they'll make sure to make sure we never see what's coming for the ending. At least I hope they do.

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    6 years 5 months ago #3 by ebony841
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  • Okay. Valid reasonings. Would take up a lot of space and time to smooth out everything.

    This is just a hypothetical poll. Suppose that Nimbus used his abilities and blackmail to pull all of the grand hall of sinister wisdom to his side.

    You are the head of a team of thirty heroes. Who will you want to Attack first? Nimbus or the Bastard? We will have the hidden assumption that the second battle will be harder than the first.
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  • ebony841 wrote: Okay. Valid reasonings. Would take up a lot of space and time to smooth out everything.

    This is just a hypothetical poll. Suppose that Nimbus used his abilities and blackmail to pull all of the grand hall of sinister wisdom to his side.

    You are the head of a team of thirty heroes. Who will you want to Attack first? Nimbus or the Bastard? We will have the hidden assumption that the second battle will be harder than the first.


    Which 30. SO, if it includes the underdogs, or other underpowered mutants:


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    6 years 5 months ago #5 by Rose Bunny
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  • All things being equal, and assuming you had creative license to use all characters... The Bastard is the bigger threat. Spreading the Voodoo monsters, able to call in characters like Necromancer that can go toe to toe with Team Kimba at their strongest, several times. The Bastard has the more immediate global threat. Killing mages, going after the grove, and the tree Fey planted. Able to recruit allies and lackeys like the Shaman-killer as distractions. Granted, if Nimbus got ahold of some form of anti-Champion, bad news. For now though Nimbus is more local in scope. Then again, if Sara returns, she might think of both of them as "breakfast".

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    6 years 5 months ago #6 by RoseBlack
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  • No bunny your slightly off when spirit chan returns they will bless both of them with such serenity they give up. The bastard will disintegrate and nimbus will just give up his evil ambitions and swear off mythos crap forever.
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  • RoseBlack wrote: No bunny your slightly off when spirit chan returns they will bless both of them with such serenity they give up. The bastard will disintegrate and nimbus will just give up his evil ambitions and swear off mythos crap forever.


    Nah, she'd just eat them.

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    6 years 5 months ago #8 by RoseBlack
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  • That's what I was originally gonna say. But I didn't want to upset you lol
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