Question Ragers at Whateley

I have a few questions regarding how Whateley Academy works with Rager students.

1: Are there Rager classes, seminars, etc regarding how to better control their Rage episodes? If so, would that be a recurring part of their class schedule for the duration of their stay at Whateley or would it be something a Freshman Rager goes through?
- As an example, during Reach and Razorback's combat final, Razorback is able to keep from mauling the scenarios' hostage by associating the 'girl' with his younger brother. This means that, at the very least, Razorback won't attack his brother unless he feels threatened in someway.
-- Is this a technique he developed on his own or is it something that he was taught as a way to minimize the impact the condition has on his life?

2: If a Rager wants to going into BMA when they arrive at Whateley, do they have a separate class (like how Pat Barnes in GEN 2 has a separate BMA class because of how his Paragon powers work.), are they put in an advanced Martial Arts class(to minimize the chance of student fatalities due to their classmates being more skilled in defending themselves), or is it up to Ito-sensei and Tolman-sensei to stop someone that starts to rage before they hurt someone?

3: If a Rager seriously injures (cripples, disfigures, etc) or kills another student, how does the school handle that?
- Is the student charged with Aggravated Assault/Voluntary Manslaughter and handed over to the authorities?
- Due to how the U.S. stigmatizes mental health, I assume it would be pretty hard for a Rager to accuse anyone of instigating them to Rage (even if it is true). Who are the authorities going to believe, the 'crazy' murderer or the 'innocent' citizen?

1- I'm not sure if they've appeared in canon as of yet, but I do have plans for a possible winter session rage-focused class

1a- The thing with Razorback associating little Pamela with his brother is something I threw in because previously it had been stated that his form was that of a guardian creature from the Court of Earth, so between that and the image of a furious mother hen guarding the nest, it seemed like a good development to fit in.

2- That would depend on the degree of rager syndrome and the limits of their control, I'd imagine. Rager-1 kids essentially have super-powered anger management issues, so the discipline of a BMA course would probably be helpful. Anything above that would definitely be on a case-by-case basis. Can you imagine Eldritch (Rager 2 by way of trauma and training) getting triggered in a martial arts class and doing what she did to Hippolyta and Lancer in their combat final?

3- Again, this is one of those things which must have come up at some point in the past, but hasn't been explored in detail. A lot would come down to the rager's state of mind at the time, what efforts were made to minimize the risk of the situation before it went pear-shaped, and to what degree their actions were deliberate. The UV armband exists for several reasons, the first being a warning sign that plainly states "Don't Fuck With Me."

Beyond that, I'd imagine the faculty handles it much the same way they would any other on-campus death at a school with the attrition rates Whateley appears to have.

This is one of those 'Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain' questions. You'll find the superhero genre has a number of 'broken' things like this. A government putting up with some masked vigilante beating the crap out of 'criminals'? Where would that ever happen? A Police department basically admitting their incompetence by out sourcing their detective work to a bored, rich play boy and summoning him, while ADVERTISING their incompetence with a search light? Yeah, right.

The simple answer is, it doesn't happen, because it's not a topic the writers want to explore.

For the in universe answer? So long as the rager in question is trying to control themselves, there isn't much short of death magic can't fix. Whateley is one of the most concentrated groupings of magic users in the world. No one can be 'permanently disfigured'. So it's handled with detention or other punishments, unless the rager is NOT trying to control him/herself in which case they're expelled.

Its probably difficult to generalis.
Probably all ragers have to visit with one of the campus shrinks.
Group thereapy is an idea, most would benefit, but it may not work for some
As to martial arts, its going to be invidual as to whether they are safe (for Whateley values oif safe) in a particular class, and if they can benefit without going rager

FlynnDanger wrote: 1: Are there Rager classes, seminars, etc regarding how to better control their Rage episodes? If so, would that be a recurring part of their class schedule for the duration of their stay at Whateley or would it be something a Freshman Rager goes through?

With regard to Ultra-Violent students in general, past WoG has been that there is mandatory counseling. If necessary, anger management classes (not a bad idea for many supers) and classes on conflict de-escalation/management are made avaiable, with an emphasis on getting the student off the "leave these people alone" list in their first or second year.

So we can assume that there are more mental health professionals on-staff than the two or three we've usually seen. Some staff may function in that role because of required secondary training (most of the Psychic Arts department) just to keep their own sanity, or because of specialized experience (Totem and Songbird come to mind, even Rev. Englund.) The school also has deep resources to call on for odd cases: ARC, the Medawhila weres, and so forth.

I have my WhatIF character , Metro, receive couples counseling from Dr. Bellows and more personal counseling from Dr. Summers (ARC). Bloodwolf gets group counseling because a wolf needs pack support.

FlynnDanger wrote: 2: If a Rager wants to going into BMA when they arrive at Whateley, do they have a separate class (like how Pat Barnes in GEN 2 has a separate BMA class because of how his Paragon powers work.), are they put in an advanced Martial Arts class(to minimize the chance of student fatalities due to their classmates being more skilled in defending themselves), or is it up to Ito-sensei and Tolman-sensei to stop someone that starts to rage before they hurt someone?

Ito and Tolman make a point of pairing ragers like Phobos with resilient partners like Phase. There just happened to also be a high-level Healer in the class. Tolman has her own psi powers as well.

FlynnDanger wrote: 3: If a Rager seriously injures (cripples, disfigures, etc) or kills another student, how does the school handle that?

It depends on what the situation / story is. Keep in mind that some non-rager students can accidentally lop off another student's arm in class (Thrasher v. Murphy, for example). On the other hand, because there's no proof of what exactly happened, Bloodwolf still has a couple of years of never knowing when he'll again be the target of Jade's fury.

Thanks for the answers everyone.

That makes sense. Otherwise there would be more than 2 instances of section 33 in the schools history.

I like the idea of a Psych class were the teacher says something like:

"I can see we have some UV's in attendance, good. I'm going to be blunt, people are going to f**k with you! Most will be idiots looking to poke the bear because its funny, it makes them look tough, etc. Others will have some agenda that pissing you off will fulfill. In this course, I'm going to show you how people are going to push your buttons and how to avoid playing into their hands. People that want to use your condition think that you're nothing but animals that can't think for yourselves. Let's prove them wrong, shall we?"

FlynnDanger wrote: I have a few questions regarding how Whateley Academy works with Rager students.

1: Are there Rager classes, seminars, etc regarding how to better control their Rage episodes?

2: If a Rager wants to going into BMA when they arrive at Whateley, do they have a separate class.

3: If a Rager seriously injures (cripples, disfigures, etc) or kills another student, how does the school handle that?


- Due to how the U.S. stigmatizes mental health, I assume it would be pretty hard for a Rager to accuse anyone of instigating them to Rage (even if it is true). Who are the authorities going to believe, the 'crazy' murderer or the 'innocent' citizen?

Re 1: This has not come up in any of the stories. There have been enough with a Razorback POV (or close enough to that) to feel confident to say that there aren't any. Which makes sense because it is not something you can really train. Treating compulsive behaviour belongs with the psychiatric department, same as with e.g. helping students cope with Diedrick's (for which there also are no special classes).

Re 2: I am not sure Razorback was in martial arts ever. But Phobos was and she was in the regular class with Ayla.

Re 3: Here we have conflicting reaction in canon. When Phobos had a rager incident in BMA and severely injured Ayla the teachers asked if Ayla wanted to complain or press charges. And were mildly surprised when she would not (though part of that no doubt was due to misconceptions about her still being a Goodkind at heart).
On the other hand we also have the description of an incident where somebody somewhat accidentally shot Razorback and triggered a massive rager battle. In the aftermath the idiot setting off the incident was punished and it was broadly hinted at that the school did not hold Razorback responsible for anything that could have happened if other students had not prevented a worse rampage.
On yet another hand I am not sure if there was a brief mention that Razorback may have if not killed then at least maimed a student in the previous year (when he had so many more rager incidents that Team Kimba has come to suspect the Alphas of causing). Razorback clearly was neither expelled not handed over to the MCO.
On yet another another hand (we are getting into Kali territory here with the number of hands) Kayda was almost marked down as a rager and if she had been then her trial would have been handled off campus and by the MCO (and become a mockery of justice that even a kangaroo court would have considered to be 'a bit much')

Not going for five hands, because that's just silly. I'll just conclude that it's complicated and leave it to others to restart the hand count with more examples of just how conflicted and complicated

Re 3b: It has been repeated over and over again just how unique australia is with how it deals with its ragers..