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4 years 1 week ago - 4 years 1 week ago #1 by Softdreams
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  • Hello,

    While reading one of the older stories I happened upon multiple mentions of the trow, since this topic hasn't really been discussed at length in-story, sadly so, that fueled my decision to come on the forum and ask/confirm a few things about these so-called trow.

    What exactly are the trow?
    Are the trow somehow related to the sidhe? A subspecies?
    Do they obtain their essence by devouring humans?
    Are they somehow connected to the Erebos? In-universe mystics speculate the Erebos might be a pool of chthonic essence.
    Can humans and trow cross-breed? I'm asking because the Troll Bride claims to be part trow. Would this also make Nephandus part trow?
    It's been said that they are chthonic spirits, so would take make the Troll Bride a possessed human or an avatar/imbued of sorts?
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  • The following question is completely unrelated to the main question!

    So as not to go through the trouble of making an entirely new topic just to ask this: wasn't there a character (one cameo character, or so I think) who specializes in love spells? I think they (cannot remember their gender) were highly in demand around campus. They're a very minor character.
    4 years 2 days ago #3 by Kristin Darken
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  • Not in canon. Not even as a cameo. Such a thing on campus would be highly against policy if not outright illegal.

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    4 years 2 days ago #4 by Kristin Darken
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  • As to the original questions:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trow_(folklore)

    Any reference to them in canon is likely referring to a mutant who resembles something that reminded someone of that lore, or they took the name on as a code name due to their power set. Any other connection would potentially tie to pre-Sundering era Court inhabitants. Note that trolls and trow are NOT the same, and any implication that they are in canon is either unreliable narrator or a case of someone making something up without realizing that something called that already exists (or at least exists in mythology).

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    4 years 1 day ago - 4 years 1 day ago #5 by Schol-R-LEA
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  • Except that Troll Bride (who is not a mutant from what she said) said - well, thought to herself , at least - that she is part Trow, and that there were others around who are fully Trow or close to it.

    The Widening Gyre wrote: She was Trow bred, born and fulfilled. There were less than a hundred Trow in all the world more pure-blooded or powerful than she was, and most of them were royalty, so pure that they couldn’t withstand the touch of sunlight. But that meant that she had needs. She needed to drink the blood and eat the flesh of humans. Not as cinema vampires did, merely to live, but to keep her mystic power strong. But for the feast to be truly fulfilling, she had to enter into the sacred bond of matrimony with her meal.


    It may be that she's simply delusional, though.

    Nephandus seems to believe her on this (he mentions when objecting to Jobe's plan to make a Drow GF ).

    The Book of Jobe wrote: Nephandus rubbed his temple. “Correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t the drow an invention of gamers? They were never a part of the genuine elf community. They’re pretty much a complete bastard misinterpretation of the Trowe, who don’t look anything like that. And I should know, I’m related to them.”


    Even Jadis and Nacht seem to agree (though in both instances, they were saying it mockingly - e.g., Katie was saying in passing how offensive a 'Christmas Elf' sweater would be to actual Alfar or Trow, before musing about getting it for Jay-Arm anyway).

    Slient Nacht, part 1 wrote: Sunny held up another festive sweater. “Now who doesn’t love Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer?”

    “Someone whose grandma got run over by a reindeer.”

    “Well, what about THIS ONE?”

    “This has a cheery toy-making elf knitted into the pattern. Sunny, I’ve met members of both the Alfar and the Trow, and neither group looks anything like this. As a matter of fact, I’d say that both groups would probably be hideously offended by it. Come to think of it, what IS Jay-Arm’s size?”


    It is possible they are all just humoring her, I suppose, but it doesn't look like that to me in this scene.

    The Widening Gyre wrote: “The word is that the Troll Bride is hundreds of years old,” Kate added. “And there are some very nasty rumors about how she does it. Jay-Arm’s dropped some mentions here and there about some connection to the Trow. They’re nasty. And she’s a mage. Not a very powerful mage, but a mage with centuries of experience. She’s probably got tricks that Jadis and I haven’t even thought of. And, if she’s Trow, then she’s probably pretty tough in a stand-up fight as well.”


    The other CC authors may have different ideas from Bek, though, and sadly we can't consult with Babs about it.

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  • Or, of course, she's lying through her teeth to gain some sort of perceived advantage

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    4 years 1 day ago - 4 years 1 day ago #7 by Schol-R-LEA
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  • Could be, could be. Though the fact that she was thinking it to herself makes that unlikely, unless she was doing it as an anti-telepathy gambit.

    Hmmn, actually, looking at it again, it was the 3rd Person Omniscient Narrator saying that. This doesn't mean it was correct, of course, since the narrator may be spreading misinformation.

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  • Reread what I said. :P

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  • Yes! That's exactly what I thought, but I think they used their love spells as a way to attract love/find their true match rather than putting a love spell on someone else, quite literally, forcing them to reciprocate their love, or so I think. Honestly... I think I read about this character while surfing through the wiki, but I can't remember well at all.

    I even thought the character had been Gypsy, but I was wrong, it isn't her. If anybody has any clue as to who I'm talking about; don't hesitate to reply back to this.
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  • Oh, there was no implication to them being related in canon. I was just curious as to if there was any connection at all, that's all.

    Wait so... Troll Bride is just a mutant with a powerset that resembles that of the trow. That's surprising, since she refers to herself as a trow, even Nephandus seems to believe her.
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  • Softdreams wrote: Wait so... Troll Bride is just a mutant with a powerset that resembles that of the trow. That's surprising, since she refers to herself as a trow, even Nephandus seems to believe her.


    Why shouldn't she refer to herself as a trow? There weren't people running around calling themselves "mutants" when she was growing up.

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  • The revelation of this character being actually a mutant makes her very, VERY interesting in a twisted way. She's been marrying and devouring men on their wedding night for centuries, she believes this to be her way of obtaining essence/fueling her magical talents when she's most likely just a Wiz-type mutant, and she's been around for centuries with no signs of aging... No wonder she believes herself to be a trow. A bad case of the Popeye syndrome?
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