Question Bio-devisor's manifesting
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Ignoring Jobe, I'm talking the likes of Petshop, what might a typical bio-devisor's manifesting be like? Sure they are a devisor, but unless the have an urge to do tech too they aren't going to start creating bots or what ever.
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There's no rule stating that a devisor can't be as technically adept as any baseline with the interest and time put into it - the farmer's kid has good reasons to keep a tractor running, after all - it's just that when it comes to innovating with biological materials there's no way they can get those results within the known science and tech.
Where it might get weird for researchers is if they also have a psychic ability (like gadgeteering) or a background in magic. The mutant already is primed for mental hyperfocus and discipline, so low-level devising might sometimes behave like one of the other disciplines.
- science fair projects demonstrated by some bright-eyed kid who's managed to get fertile crosses from differing non-orchid genera that somehow breed true.
- that farmer's kid, up the way, who has a knack for fixing up livestock injuries
- that girl who's always coming up with a poultice or decoction for this and that, but has about as much essence as you do
- the kid who's turned his chemistry set into a credible alchemy lab instead of making pyro
There's no rule stating that a devisor can't be as technically adept as any baseline with the interest and time put into it - the farmer's kid has good reasons to keep a tractor running, after all - it's just that when it comes to innovating with biological materials there's no way they can get those results within the known science and tech.
Where it might get weird for researchers is if they also have a psychic ability (like gadgeteering) or a background in magic. The mutant already is primed for mental hyperfocus and discipline, so low-level devising might sometimes behave like one of the other disciplines.
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Heck, could be a girl who wants bigger cats... "I've been feeding them my Kittens 2 Tigers Growth Feed for two months and look at how big they've gotten!"
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Something to think about... not all bio-devisors are going to bio-devise like Jobe. That is to say... not all of them are going to look at current biology, medicine, or genetics... and work with it as if modern lab techniques and equipment are enough to make things work.
What makes him a bio-devisor... is not the tools, machines, and computers that he uses to do the genetic manipulation that he does... operate like the same equipment used in a bio-lab in any research facility or school in the country. Some of them might be a bit more advanced or custom made... but its not the tools that his devisor nature imposes new rules on... its the material (organic) that he manipulates. Another devisor might get to the same place... creating a genetically modified cow... but do so by creating cloning chambers and advanced genetic re-sequencing energy fields. That devisor wouldn't be a bio-devisor. They'd be a devisor with a specialization in genetics.
But while Jobe does devise to produce successful results... what he does is actually much closer to regular genetics work, advanced... not unlike what a gadgeteer would do... but not using completely 'mad science' methodology to get there.
Which prompts what I was going to point out about other characters who might be bio-devisors and moving off the beaten trail of Jobe / Petsmart.
A bio-devisor doesn't need inorganic machines. Their end result doesn't have to be genetic manipulation. Manipulation of the standard processes of biology IS the power. A true bio-devisor can have the same practical goals as any other tech geek. PFG? Death ray? Combat armor? Vehicles? Computers? They just don't bother using metals and plastics and ceramics to make these things... they grow them.
And in THAT sense... Jobe is 'barely' a bio-devisor.
What makes him a bio-devisor... is not the tools, machines, and computers that he uses to do the genetic manipulation that he does... operate like the same equipment used in a bio-lab in any research facility or school in the country. Some of them might be a bit more advanced or custom made... but its not the tools that his devisor nature imposes new rules on... its the material (organic) that he manipulates. Another devisor might get to the same place... creating a genetically modified cow... but do so by creating cloning chambers and advanced genetic re-sequencing energy fields. That devisor wouldn't be a bio-devisor. They'd be a devisor with a specialization in genetics.
But while Jobe does devise to produce successful results... what he does is actually much closer to regular genetics work, advanced... not unlike what a gadgeteer would do... but not using completely 'mad science' methodology to get there.
Which prompts what I was going to point out about other characters who might be bio-devisors and moving off the beaten trail of Jobe / Petsmart.
A bio-devisor doesn't need inorganic machines. Their end result doesn't have to be genetic manipulation. Manipulation of the standard processes of biology IS the power. A true bio-devisor can have the same practical goals as any other tech geek. PFG? Death ray? Combat armor? Vehicles? Computers? They just don't bother using metals and plastics and ceramics to make these things... they grow them.
And in THAT sense... Jobe is 'barely' a bio-devisor.
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That actually answers a question about Jobe I hadn't known I had, namely why nothing she does seems overly divisory same maybe the Sidhe DNA in the drow serum.
humm... ok, gonna barrow a mindset from a species in Voltron Legendary Defenders: the Olkari and some of their tech ideas
humm... ok, gonna barrow a mindset from a species in Voltron Legendary Defenders: the Olkari and some of their tech ideas
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I hadn't thought about this side of bio-devising before.
I'm now chuckling when I picture an unaware bio-devisor falling hard into an anti-science, natural-living worldview with remarkably good results... and then being horrified when they're told it's because they have a "super-science" power.
I'm now chuckling when I picture an unaware bio-devisor falling hard into an anti-science, natural-living worldview with remarkably good results... and then being horrified when they're told it's because they have a "super-science" power.
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