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Loved Good Cop / Bad Cop ... Ferret Cop
- Kristin Darken
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Put your Good Cop / Bad Cop response here:
Fate guard you and grant you a Light to brighten your Way.
- Dreamer
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Below is a stream of conscious commentary I type up as I read the story. There will details from the story included in it. If you have not read the story yet and don't wish to have details of it spoiled, read no further.
Good Cop/Bad Cop Part 1 comments
Waking Jimmy up from a dream like that, Tavi is lucky he only got swatted at. Hehe, having Taka as a roommate would make anyone feel almost lazy for sleeping in. Now that is a bunk bed set-up! Thinking others don't have an ounce of survival sense for how they treat Taka, if not for Taka's vow they would all be in Doyle a lot. Hehehe, love Tavi pretending he has a ray gun, so fun to watch him. Now an Elmer Fudd hunting cap, if this keeps up my side are going to be pain from laughing too hard from all the mental images.
Bwahaha, the banter between Jimmy and Tavi, priceless. And Tavi knows what Hikaru's AI really is, smart little VI.
Determined to excel as a detective who can chase down a perp on foot, Jimmy has willpower for a kid his age. Interesting details on how hardlight projections function, wish we had them in our world. And he stumbles upon a bunch of bullies, whoa, able to put PK shells onto others, very interesting. And betting one of them is blocking a connection with security, ugh."Done. Tavi pace car."
PK shell but able to shell someone else in addition to himself, wonder what else his PK shells can do. Tavi videoing the bullies and playing keep away with his project smartphone, bwahaha. Half meter wide beam of energy, this guy has a dangerous power and a temper. Jimmy wondering why idiots bully other students at a school like this, just doesn't make sense with what some students can do. Tavi with a sunny side up egg on his head, make it stop, my sides are hurting.
Gah, reading what he is getting for breakfast is making me hungry. Bagpipes and plaid too now, Tavi has a weird sense of humor, but I like it. Good to be able to record the encounter to prove himself innocent. Holographically map out a crime scene, dang, that would be awesome. Great, no good deed indeed, gives them video evidence of his innocence and still has to go in.
Got to martial arts on time, good, most security encounters make a kid late for class. Ah, good, gets to use GridGear to learn and record what he is taught in class. PK 4, still fairly strong. Whoa, a lot of good suggestions on how to use his VI to help him in a fight. Body slammed into the mat by Tolman, ouch. Initial slow down, then same PK 4 strength and toughness as Jimmy with his shell, yikes. And once attuned, they stay attuned, sounds good for preparing friends for future use of it on them. Having other students learn how it feels to fight as a PK and help them understand and counter them, interesting training tool.
They wasted 3 hours when they had video recordings of the event, that makes no sense at all. One of the bullies was blocking network access or something else is going on. If the kids are right and security allowed this bullying, something is seriously wrong at Whateley. Blaming Bianca's magical marking for why he is uneasy around her, sure, that is why. Only Erica and Tanya looking normal, thinking he would date any of them of they showed any interest. Yikes, threats because of Tavi's singing, poor little guy.
Sim Staff wishing him to leave his GridGear and Tavi with them, oh boy. English-Lit class and Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin, in their world he could be just a baseline inventor or he could have been a mutant, no way to tell. As, Tia throwing a tennis ball against a wall and catching it. Nice ballistics system, plus Tavi is cute just watching Tia toss the tennis ball. And she hits the same spot every single time, dang.
Dang, that much accuracy to duplicate the same throw every single time with little deviation. Even from all the way in the back of the classroom she can pull off the same toss and return, that is impressive. Oh boy, all the students into it, mapping trajectories, but the teacher is back and they have to stop, darn. Jimmy and Tia having to see the teacher after class, Tia upset with him, but her accuracy has to be some sort of power, how it hasn't been detected yet is weird.
A Gen 4 Model 19 Glock, dang, that is a pistol. Knowing how all parts of his gun work, to recognize them, smart. Whoa, adopting those over regular tasers, a charge cartridge only good for 5 shots, dang. At least they can be recharged. Slower at long ranges, firing a ball of electricity, still an improvement over a taser. Rodent launcher, man, Tavi is getting teased for once. And talk of weaponizing the hardlight projections from his GridGear, yikes.
Encouraging dirty fighting tricks, yeah, Whateley Academy martial arts classes are like no other school for teens. Homework for PE classes, actually sounds more fun than some of the homework I had while in school.
Arrange some time to see how security does things, arranged through Broggy, Jimmy has some unusual friends for his age. Oh crud, recruiting people far faster than Carson would have ever vetted people, this is going to lead to trouble. Oh boy, being told they aren't police, told what security's real job is, disheartening Jimmy. If not an attack on the school or someone on a rampage, they just don't care, sure feels like that. And he is going to investigate the bullying himself.
All those things happening for an award ceremony and press event, and some idiots crash the event intent on killing the VIPs or other targets they are after. All those police and these creeps pulls this stunt, the press being idiots as well. Broggy and the cops in the precinct are good guys, Broggy coming out to get Jimmy to safety. Now that is an origin story, saving the Chief of police like that, even the last part where he hadn't learned how to remove the shared PK shell yet.
Now could the man from Mr. Granier's office have been taken out that easily, by two thugs and one shot? I doubt this is the last we have seen of him, after all the trouble he is going through to acquire something. Now how he survives this encounter is something I will be left wondering about until it is revealed.
Thank You for story comments appreciated and help me know me they are being read and liked.

- Katssun
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Tia has a skill! Hopefully that will boost her confidence a bit. She's less of an underdog if she has superhuman hearing and innate perfect aim to pair it with. Laura or Bianca, Jimmy, and Tia could end up a very scary combat trio/quartet. Ammo, trajectory, and delivery.
Tia idly bouncing a ball (in class!) seemed like a very boyish thing to do. I guess it's okay since everyone knows...
I wonder if we'll see Jimmy's internal reaction to Bianca getting outed next chapter. He's already a little confused about the vibes she gives off. Who ends up feeling the most betrayed by the news, Jimmy or Tanya?
- GrimGrendel
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I agree with Katssun that Tia bouncing a ball felt boyish and totally appropriate. Loving how that little action became more and more involved and improbable, and all the funnier the longer it went. Then they got caught by the teacher. There will be some Tia vengeance next chapter, I predict.
Does the story at the end replaces Jimmy's origin story? I kind of want more now that I got a tease with his big moment saving Chief, but at the same time his recounting has a lot of details which would be redundant if an origin story was in the plans. Can still hope?
Up for review: Magpies 1 - Flock (Part 1)
- Esar
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GrimGrendel wrote: I always wondered why the school's security never seemed to apply preventive measures against bullying, despite having some really good tech. I'm grateful this was clearly addressed here. Not that that will discourage Jimmy; if anything he'll start a bully buster team with Tavi as the mascot.
This is Gen2. We know that some years before Gen1 began, they were enforcing policies against bullying and were protecting GSD student actively and then stopped. Ayla has confronted Carson about this, and even if we don't know the details it seems to be part of a plan, maybe to toughen the students and to prepare them.
I reminded her, “He’s not my victim, he’s the perpetrator. He’s been doing this for months now, and you’re the one with the access to his powers testing records, and yet you didn’t do anything about his behavior until he was hoist with his own petard.”
She raised an eyebrow at my metaphor and said, “Somehow, I prefer not to fully visualize that image. But I take it that you are inferring something about my handling of student behavior?”
I exhaled slowly. If I were going to deliberately stick my hand into a beartrap, it would be nice to do it carefully enough that I still had a hand afterward. And Lady Astarte was no one to aggravate heedlessly. I carefully said, “I’ve been asking a few questions. According to school documents and Mrs. Linford – who, by the way, is perhaps a little too chatty about school history, in my opinion – you’ve always been very supportive of the GSD kids, and you’ve always been very tough on bullying. Up until last year, when The Don started running wild and thinking he had his own private fiefdom here. Then suddenly, most of the anti-bully measures are being enforced less ‘effectively’, let us say. Peeper’s freedom to harass schoolgirls seems to be part of that. Although I have thought of an alternative hypothesis, wherein Peeper’s behavior is simply not being punished as much as possible, in an effort to prepare students for life on the outside as a superhero, or at least as a known mutant. So, is it possible that there’s something going on besides The Don’s connections with the avatar-jacking issue?”
She frowned at me. “I would rather not discuss that last point, except in our most secure conference rooms. And I will insist that you not discuss it except under similar circumstances, such as under the aegis of Fey’s anti-eavesdropping crystal.” She looked at me and said, “Yes, the magic faculty is well aware of Miss Reilly’s inventiveness. More than one of the faculty has taken the fundamental ideas and started… reverse engineering the crystal. In a magical sense.” She went on, “There may be some reasons why this school’s insistence on no bullying has been… suppressed, but I am not going to discuss this with you. Let me just say that I would not be a party to it if I didn’t think that what is being done is crucial in a larger context, and I expect you to let it drop until such time as that context becomes apparent.”
Whoa. Was she actually saying there was a reason for all this bullshit? But if I could figure it out, perhaps I could provide some external support, and…
“No, Miss Goodkind. I do not want you investigating, or playing Sherlock Holmes, or hiring more of your outside investigators to look into it, or anything like that. You have more external resources than any other student, and I need you to not invoke them.”
Thanks Kristin. Tavi is awesome and put a smile on my face everytime I read about its/her/his/their antics (I will have to verify the proper way to address Tavi).
I am wondering if Tia's power could be in fact a luck based power ? it would be appropriate with the bunny theme ... (the rest of her weakness are linked to this after all).
- peter
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- Kristin Darken
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peter wrote: This is Whateley, if there was ever a place where a simple program could get 'accidentally' boosted to AI status, this is the place.
Peter: In the Gen 2 timeline, Whateley is actually an approved AI creche (or which there are only a handful in the world). We've got some more on AI/VI stuff coming up in the near future... and, of course, keep in mind that Tavi (the VI part) isn't the only aspect of Jimmy's GridGear that could potentially be upgraded with advanced technology to become more than just a simple holdout/tool.
Esar: Tavi identifies as 'attack ferret.' Proper pronouns for attack ferret are male.

Grim: Yep, sorry, there's not really enough to it for an independent 'origin' story... so the plan all along was to work it in this way. You'll hear some more about Jimmy's home life when its relevant... but probably not in big chunks.
Katssun: Could go either way... you know Jimmy's going to get upset... but whether Tanya or one of the others is MORE so? You'll just have to wait and see.

Fate guard you and grant you a Light to brighten your Way.
- Sir Lee
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Well, she could star on the live-action version of the Lucky Bunny Bounty Show ...Esar wrote: I am wondering if Tia's power could be in fact a luck based power ? it would be appropriate with the bunny theme ... (the rest of her weakness are linked to this after all).
- Arcanist Lupus
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I'm sure that there are female attack ferrets as well.Kristin Darken wrote: Esar: Tavi identifies as 'attack ferret.' Proper pronouns for attack ferret are male.

Maxim 24: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a big gun.Did everyone in this place have twenty ways to make you think about using everything you had on you as a weapon?
Also reminds me of a running joke in the Mage Winds Valdemar series about using found objects as weaponry
"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
- peter
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Kristin Darken wrote:
peter wrote: This is Whateley, if there was ever a place where a simple program could get 'accidentally' boosted to AI status, this is the place.
Peter: In the Gen 2 timeline, Whateley is actually an approved AI creche (or which there are only a handful in the world). We've got some more on AI/VI stuff coming up in the near future... and, of course, keep in mind that Tavi (the VI part) isn't the only aspect of Jimmy's GridGear that could potentially be upgraded with advanced technology to become more than just a simple holdout/tool.
Interesting, but does not change the fact that Tavi could be boosted by 'accident' rather than part of an approved program.
Hmmmm, does raise the question in my mind about A.I. emancipation. Are full A.Is. regarded as persons?
- Kettlekorn
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- Kristin Darken
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No... it doesn't. Are you suggesting that Tavi should accidentally fall in a vat of chemicals, have an origin event, and get super powers?peter wrote:
Kristin Darken wrote:
peter wrote:
Interesting, but does not change the fact that Tavi could be boosted by 'accident' rather than part of an approved program.
I don't think we want to do too much of this as just an info dump... but no, A.I. are considered A.I.... they're not the same as biological people. But in some ways, they are more rational about things than humans... they are very clear on what happens if one of their kind goes rogue.Hmmmm, does raise the question in my mind about A.I. emancipation. Are full A.Is. regarded as persons?
Fate guard you and grant you a Light to brighten your Way.
- Kristin Darken
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Fate guard you and grant you a Light to brighten your Way.
- Katssun
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The backstory segment felt like a story interlaced with...stage directions? There's almost too much location information for the action it's relating to the audience. It makes sense for such a detail-oriented character like Jimmy, but it might have been helped by more interjections from Tavi or some interaction with Jimmy's audience to break it up a bit.
- null0trooper
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Kristin Darken wrote:
No... it doesn't. Are you suggesting that Tavi should accidentally fall in a vat of chemicals, have an origin event, and get super powers?peter wrote:
Interesting, but does not change the fact that Tavi could be boosted by 'accident' rather than part of an approved program.
Any sufficiently crocked batch of deviser chemicals may turn out equivalent to magic, or coffee?
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- Astrodragon
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Kristin Darken wrote: [
No... it doesn't. Are you suggesting that Tavi should accidentally fall in a vat of chemicals, have an origin event, and get super powers?
Oh yes!! Either that or go green and purple....
I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
- Esar
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Kristin Darken wrote: So, what do you all think? Have I redeemed myself from the rough/choppy Esoteric first story?
In my opinion, you have nothing to redeem yourself for (I find the turn of phrase awkward, I hope I am not actually saying that you are not redeeming yourself). Was "A Tenuous Blade" different in its structure than most other Whateley stories ? Yes. Was it a bad thing ? No.
Sure, I can understand the frustration of some readers but each scene hit the point it wants to make. It didn't need to show everything. (and It could have been a problem then for the second half because too much information about the G1Y2 something like a year before the second story set in this timeline could have been too restrictive for the other stories).
Yeah, Ayla's role might have seemed awkward (because in his stories he has expressed that he wanted to be the one guiding the freshmen because he didn't want someone in his position to deal with another Beltane) but when a story is not told from his PoV it is normal to show him a little distant compared to what we are used to seeing because it is the front he is used to project to other people. We will see if latter he will lend his support to Frank or not.
(If I remember correctly those were the most prominent complaints that this story had at the time)
Esoteric's origin story is one of the story that I read again and again on a monthly basis. It is one of my favorite character because of his inner struggle (and the fact that other poesis might not exactly be as understanding of his position as he would like them to be).
Thank you Kristin.
- Valentine
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Kristin Darken wrote: So, what do you all think? Have I redeemed myself from the rough/choppy Esoteric first story?
I will say that when I originally read A Tenuous Blade, I thought it was rough/choppy, but I recently went back and reread it. While it's not my favorite style, I do no longer find it rough/choppy. It actually flows well.
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- Arcanist Lupus
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Katssun wrote: If you are looking for some constructive criticism on this one, the backstory segment where Jimmy tells his origin story feels is a bit too dense. It felt out of place with the rest of the story and comes off as a little too much exposition. It's noticeable because the rest of the story flows so well.
The backstory segment felt like a story interlaced with...stage directions? There's almost too much location information for the action it's relating to the audience. It makes sense for such a detail-oriented character like Jimmy, but it might have been helped by more interjections from Tavi or some interaction with Jimmy's audience to break it up a bit.
I noticed the origin story as well, but I took that as Jimmy's personal narration style, and him trying to be dramatic. It highlighted how different his perspective is from that of a normal teenager.
"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
- Kristin Darken
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Arcanist Lupus wrote:
Katssun wrote: If you are looking for some constructive criticism on this one, the backstory segment where Jimmy tells his origin story feels is a bit too dense. It felt out of place with the rest of the story and comes off as a little too much exposition. It's noticeable because the rest of the story flows so well.
The backstory segment felt like a story interlaced with...stage directions? There's almost too much location information for the action it's relating to the audience. It makes sense for such a detail-oriented character like Jimmy, but it might have been helped by more interjections from Tavi or some interaction with Jimmy's audience to break it up a bit.
I noticed the origin story as well, but I took that as Jimmy's personal narration style, and him trying to be dramatic. It highlighted how different his perspective is from that of a normal teenager.
*nods* yes, that was the intent there. It was one of the last things that I added, even if its an event that I've known about/planned to describe for as long as the character has been in mind. It was intended to read both more dramatically... and with a different sort of perspective/observation of position/layout/organization than most kids would have over a chaotic situation like that. Sounds like it works for some but not everyone...
Also... there are no Tavi interruptions during the story because Tavi wasn't present at the time. Jimmy had been given his tablet with the Tutoring assistant software, but he was gifted the GridGear by the police chief as a thank you for this event. The Tavi personality overlay was designed specifically for the GridGear. There's also the small element that 'Tavi' wants Jimmy to acknowledge that he's a hero and to grow in ways that accent those qualities (that's what a tutor does) and for the most part, the police had been advising him not to talk and suppressing the info as much as possible to keep the press leeches off him. As far as Tavi is concerned, Jimmy having people he can get a little validation from - is a good thing.
Fate guard you and grant you a Light to brighten your Way.
- Katssun
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Recognizing Bianca being twitchy lately, and very guarded about certain subjects (to the point that Bianca noticed him noticing), casing the group of girls (plus Taka and Vic) in the first place when he initially approached the group, noticing the significance of what Tia was doing, etc.
If it is just his narration style, providing details himself that he now uses the GridGear for, it makes sense. I think it also might have work more smoothly if he used Tavi and the GridGear to set up hard light markers in the room to match what he was describing, like he was doing when they were playing in English class.
I guess a related follow-up question is, can Tavi (currently?) only provide contextual comments on things that Jimmy's GridGear has witnessed?
If devisors like Jamie Howe can shut off security cameras and other surveillance gear, can the GridGear similarly be shut down?
- Kristin Darken
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Not really... Tavi does have access to press/news records of what happened. Anything that's available to the data collection systems that the Board of Ed has tied into the tutoring system. And he has talked with Jimmy about it.Katssun wrote: I guess a related follow-up question is, can Tavi (currently?) only provide contextual comments on things that Jimmy's GridGear has witnessed?
What you haven't seen enough to break down so far is probably that Tavi has a couple modes... he has a teaching/tutoring mode. He's still a playful ferret in tutoring mode... but he's a playful ferret that knows ten different methods to teach whatever lesson plan is set as his current goal. And understands how to recognize the signs of which ones are working.
He has a 'companion' mode... this is the one you've seen the most of, so far. This is the personality overlay working to streamline and anticipate use. And just interact with its owner. The 'companion' mode can also extend to interacting with friends and others in its surroundings... but it only does this when doing so doesn't impact the OWNER interacting with friends and surroundings. And that's the important bit here. Jimmy has focus. Tavi understands enough about social networking to know that pulling focus during this moment would be the action of a poor companion and teacher. On the other hand, had Tavi seen Jimmy having problems with the story... PTSD memory issues maybe? He may have engaged to take the pressure off Jimmy for best results.
And then there is 'play' mode. Play mode is just doing silly playful stuff as a result of being a ferret VI. Like breaking into song in the cafe... or having a hard light pellet gun fight or any number of little games available to the GridGear. In play mode, Tavi won't really be acting in anyone's benefit... he's just providing the hardware for group entertainment.
Poor Tavi. You'll get an answer to this in Part 2. Poor little ferret has some rough months ahead of him.If devisors like Jamie Howe can shut off security cameras and other surveillance gear, can the GridGear similarly be shut down?
Fate guard you and grant you a Light to brighten your Way.
- null0trooper
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Kristin Darken wrote: And then there is 'play' mode. Play mode is just doing silly playful stuff as a result of being a ferret VI. Like breaking into song in the cafe... or having a hard light pellet gun fight or any number of little games available to the GridGear. In play mode, Tavi won't really be acting in anyone's benefit... he's just providing the hardware for group entertainment.
For some reason, I saw that as being part of the teaching software. Some games demonstrating to Jimmy how fun but inappropriate interactions can be annoying to others, others encouraging social interaction and just having fun without holding back to analyze each person or act for their threat value.
That should be taken with a grain of salt or ten, coming from someone who likes to read Tavi's lines out loud in an animated character voice.

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Kristin Darken wrote:
I don't think we want to do too much of this as just an info dump... but no, A.I. are considered A.I.... they're not the same as biological people. But in some ways, they are more rational about things than humans... they are very clear on what happens if one of their kind goes rogue.Hmmmm, does raise the question in my mind about A.I. emancipation. Are full A.Is. regarded as persons?
To Add to this: Very, very, very clear on this. AI's are not dumb, not stupid, and even the 'smallest/least capable' AI's, are at least functionally IQ 150+ equiv. They know if an AI goes Skynet or like, they're going to get blamed, and don't want it. And there's info on them elsewhere, in threads.
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It definitely appears that you're having fun with the GridGear, and it will be cool to see what comes of it in future. As for the device itself being upgraded, I'm thinking it might make for a nice hard-light blade extending from Jimmy's wrist to pair up with his PK - or maybe I'm just thinking too much of the Starcraft Zealot.

Really nice seeing Jimmy interact with the group from his perspective, and leaving some threads dangling for just a little. As mentioned, his reaction to Bianca will be notable, but also when he and Tia were caught by the teacher. She'll be annoyed because of being held back, but surely she'll be more favourable once the realisation of her ability sinks in.
And on the note of teachers, I see that names weren't very forthcoming. I wonder if it's because they're nobodies or if they'll be individuals we already know (or will come to know) and the reveal is being delayed to be more dramatic?
Seriously, thank you for your time and effort. It is appreciated.