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Question Out on a tether
- Esar
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Am I the only one who has just noticed the new Morpheus's story in the new ... "insert" presenting the new releases ? (I like this new presentation by the way). It was not here before, was it ? It's a great way of waking up (Or, Am I ? Dun dun dun).
Thank you morpheus, I can't read it immediatly but I will read it today (I also have Grim's story to finish "reviewing" ...).
http://whateleyacademy.net/index.php/original-timeline/799-out-on-a-tether
- Wrayth
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Morpheus, Thanks for the amazing intro of a soon to be new villain. On a side note, I actually live in Northern Nevada, and appreciate that you used Reno for the setting.
May your muse continue to gift you with stories to share with us.
Wrayth
- Phoenix Spiritus
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Um ... welcome to Friday?
- Katssun
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That twist at the end. Nice fake-out earlier in the story with the reference to Imp turning down the job.
I was thinking the whole time that Tether and Glow were probably going to end up going at it once Tether was a little more familiar with mixing attacks up with her abilities...but that doesn't seem to be the case after all....or is it?
I'm assuming that investment Focus made pays out pretty well, and we'll be seeing Tether someplace soon.
For someone named Morpheus...you sure seem to be the enemy of a good night's sleep, along with the rest of the authors.
- Yolandria
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Mistress of the shelter for lost and redeemable Woobies!
- Esar
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(It's Focus)After blasting both the cameras and trap, Force commented, “You’re useful to have around, kid.”
I was kinda expecting that something was up regarding the year but only because I have been surprised recently by a story in which I had not paid attention to the year (or lack thereof). So when I saw that no year was mentionned, I was curious.
Her powerset kinda made me thought about Glow (Her healing being linked to her teleportation ability) and in the end, both of these stories were connected by Twist. I am guessing she will play a part in Glow's next story (because she has just graduated alongside Twist).
Thanks Morpheus, I really admire you way of connecting all your stories.
- Valentine
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Esar wrote: I have found one little mistake :
(It's Focus)After blasting both the cameras and trap, Force commented, “You’re useful to have around, kid.”
I was kinda expecting that something was up regarding the year but only because I have been surprised recently by a story in which I had not paid attention to the year (or lack thereof). So when I saw that no year was mentionned, I was curious.
Her powerset kinda made me thought about Glow (Her healing being linked to her teleportation ability) and in the end, both of these stories were connected by Twist. I am guessing she will play a part in Glow's next story (because she has just graduated alongside Twist).
Thanks Morpheus, I really admire you way of connecting all your stories.
Morpheus' stories are tied together in a way that makes the Gordian Knot look like a sloppily tied shoestring. Round and Round came out first three years ago as fanfiction. The happenings in it are tied to his other stories through simple mentions of events, that could be just stage dressing, but are important plot points of his future sories. All that in a fanfiction.
Don't Drick and Drive.
- Kristin Darken
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Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Whoops.
Um ... welcome to Friday?
Hmm... I'm not sure how that happened... no one should be able to see the new news or the story until tomorrow.
Fate guard you and grant you a Light to brighten your Way.
- Schol-R-LEA
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Out, damnéd Spot! Bad Doggy!
- Wrayth
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- Kristin Darken
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Fate guard you and grant you a Light to brighten your Way.
- slapshots
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- Valentine
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Kristin Darken wrote:
Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Whoops.
Um ... welcome to Friday?
Hmm... I'm not sure how that happened... no one should be able to see the new news or the story until tomorrow.
You were supposed to move your clock forward one hour, not days.
Don't Drick and Drive.
- Valentine
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Don't Drick and Drive.
- Phoenix Spiritus
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Valentine wrote: So was the story on a tether and snapped back to whence it came from?
We are restoring you to your regularly scheduled Friday.
- mhalpern
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Any Bad Ideas I have and microscene OC character stories are freely adoptable.
- JG
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- mhalpern
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I didn't see a year date, though I should have picked up on the description of Poe Cottage putting it firmly before 2007....JG wrote: Look at the dates in Tether
Any Bad Ideas I have and microscene OC character stories are freely adoptable.
- Esar
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mhalpern wrote:
I didn't see a year date, though I should have picked up on the description of Poe Cottage putting it firmly before 2007....JG wrote: Look at the dates in Tether
The important date is that Twist mentions that they are from the 2005 whateley class. Freshmen in Gen1Y1 are part of the class of 2010.
- mhalpern
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in other words it all takes place 2 months after 9-11.. Damn would not want to attempt to board a plane to get to Whateley then, normal TSA would be bad enough.Esar wrote:
mhalpern wrote:
I didn't see a year date, though I should have picked up on the description of Poe Cottage putting it firmly before 2007....JG wrote: Look at the dates in Tether
The important date is that Twist mentions that they are from the 2005 whateley class. Freshmen in Gen1Y1 are part of the class of 2010.
Any Bad Ideas I have and microscene OC character stories are freely adoptable.
- Dreamer
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Below is a stream of conscious commentary I type up as I read the story. There will details from the story included in it. If you have not read the story yet and don't wish to have details of it spoiled, read no further.
Out On a Tether comments
Comicbook artist, nice. *smacks forehead* Stereotypes like Major Macho, and then Ms. Perfect, oh brother. At least Mike realizes how boring a character Major Macho is. And Mike is a cynic who believes anyone can be bought for the right price, ouch, what brought about this mindset. Ugh, creeps like Jackson Lewis make life horrible for kids just trying to pass the time until out of school. And big brother Brad takes care of the bully, but at a cost. You help family because it is right, not to be payed back in them doing your chores, etc.
An envelope slipped to a cop by the apartment manager, seeing things like this it is no wonder Mike has the mindset he does. His dad's philosophy on life certainly doesn't help. Eminent domain to steal people's homes, sickening. Dad, Harry Cook, and like Brad plus a schemer, poor Mike growing up around criminals and bullies.
Nothing but take-out and delivery, yikes, I have to have some homemade food. Strange pressure over his whole body, still feels odd after it passed, oh crud. A tether like sensation pulling him towards the restaurant, weird. And teleports right back to the restaurant, freaking out as he realizes what this means. Wonder why a tether sensation and specific location, can it be changed to a different point, guess I have to keep reading and hope for answers.
Oh crud, Mike is right, flying into a rage or being disowned would be better than his dad scheming of how to use his power for his own benefit. Hair changing color, lost weight, height gained and face looking off, too early to tell how he is changing yet. Ah, answers on how his teleportation works already, interesting variant with the anchor and tether.
Working on his comic and dad has a job for him. *alarm going off* Anchor in his bedroom as he goes off to deliver a package, never deliver a package without knowing what is inside! Two block limit on his tether, that limits it a lot. Okay, who did he sense those things about the guy about the door, some form of ESP obviously but wonder what it would be classed as.
Potent sense Mike has to know all those things. And can tell Mister Harper has superpowers and that they are dangerous, dang, even more impressive ability. Crud, diamonds and his dad tried to use fakes too, so Mister Harper wishes to send his dad a message using Mike. Dodging faster than expected but still hit by some shotgun pellets, ouch. Ah, didn't want them to know he could teleport, so waited until out of sight, smart. Wait, what! Does he have regeneration, seems like it based on the description. And is it somehow linked to his teleportation.
Ugh, his dad is smug about the whole thing, saying Harper doesn't even know who he really is, fake identity and multiple red herrings. He is going to get himself and Brad killed with this attitude. And yup, somehow healing/regen triggered when he teleports it seems. Okay, his special sense is very powerful, getting all that information about others, and he doesn't think he is hearing anyone's thoughts. Definitely a form of ESP and a potent form, knowing there is a gun locked up in one of the drawers of the teacher's desk.
Figuring out what he can sense with his powers is going to be a lot of trial and error. Mike doesn't realize how useful his powers are yet, plus his form of teleportation doesn't risk teleporting into an object accidently. Shot up the rope in gym like it was nothing, guessing he is an exemplar with the changes going on and now this. Great, Jenna Morton, classmate of theirs, is in Humanity First. Another thing for Mike to be afraid of.
And Aaron notices Mike looks different, oh boy. At least he gets Aaron to shut up about the 'possibility' of him being a mutant in public like that. Jackson showing up to bully him again, only for Mike to run, then trigger his tether to outside the school into some bushes, very smart kid. And confirmation that teleportation heals him, very useful.
Uh oh, figures out that teleporting also changes him some more each time. Danger sense triggers, knew Harper's men would be on the lookout for him. Had to teleport and leave the food behind, good to know that other limitation now. Blaming the guy who made the fake diamonds instead of his own stupid plan, ugh.
And his eyes have finally changed to a brilliant emerald green, oh boy, going to be much harder to hide he is a mutant now. Plus whites of right eye turned black, oh boy. Based on those eyes and his changes, he is somehow turning into his own character, Ms. Perfect. And Mike realizes it as well, all those changes unmistakable. And dad using him for another plan, he never learns.
Dang, wishing he had been rejected by his dad instead of being seen as a tool to use. Stealing diamonds from a thief who skimmed them from chain jewelry stores, that is just plain stupid. Fear of how others will treat him if they figure out he is turning into a girl, in his situation it could be worse or better depending on how his dad reacts. Looking forward to turning into Ms. Perfect, confused emotions, he is living a dream for some.
Smart, researched his powers online, yet he thinks that ESP power isn't that powerful, seems pretty strong to me. Robbing a jewelry store chain's flagship store, his dad and Marco are insane! I doubt Harper will take a payoff and just forget how Mike embarrassed him by escaping. Oh boy, a woman with powers targeting the same place, their plan just hit someone else's.
Great, tries to warn his dad about the woman, only his dad to say he doesn't care what he thinks and hang up on him. Simple snatch and grab, they forgot to account for local superheroes. Windswept had been watching the store as well, waiting for thieves. Flipping off a hero and running in another direction after making a tether, Mike has guts. Whoa, saying that to Windswept, that isn't guts, that is cocky. And leaves behind a confused Windswept, driven into a life of crime by his dad, poor Mike.
Dad gone all morning to sort things out with Harper, Mike worried, betting it didn't go as planned. Changing at that rate, I doubt he can hide it for even another week at this rate. Ah, conflicting emotions about the changes once more, I'm surprised that Brad hasn't noticed yet and picked on Mike about it. Brad trying to bully him into doing his chores, nothing more than a thug. Heh, at least Brad realizes he needs to make a deal and pay.
And Brad is dense, starting to look like a chick just because of long hair. Harper isn't a problem anymore, I don't like the way his dad phrased that. Plus Marco being a problem now, just digging Mike deeper and deeper alongside him. Why that casino, especially with all those armed men around? Mister Corvas, Mister Harper there and Mike can get a more general sense of what his power is now, and Marco is dead.
And a man and woman with powers there as well, this isn't looking good. His dad is making him take the fall for the jewelry store robbery, the scum! Blaming him for stopping what would have been a 10 million payoff for a later job. Bring them his son and they would let him live, his dad is a true coward. Pulls his tether and leaves his dad behind to die, broke Mike's heart by betraying him after all he put up with.
Shot and running away in pain, tricking them with a tether set before going down an alley to help his escape plus heal. And Mike starts to learn just how much stronger and faster than before he is, that thug is going to be in pain. Another tether to escape and heal some more, kid is going to be truly dangerous when he learn the strengths, weaknesses and limits of his powers. Great, only one place to go where he might be safe after what happened.
Wonder where the shed is he slept in, well outfitted for camping. Staying in a shed at Aaron's place, guess it helps to have a friend like him. Aaron staring at chest and turning red, awkward. Not telling Aaron what happened, except he is turning into a girl and thinks he is an exemplar. A month at most for complete change, fast transformation for a changeling. Really limited teleportation but I haven't heard of any other teleporter who heals when they teleport.
Ah, filling in Aaron with vague details on the whole story. Fearing Corvas has the police on the payroll or getting caught in a fight between them. Almost looks like Ms. Perfect's daughter, two parts having different emotions about his changes. Dress like a girl for a disguise, borrowing Aaron's sister's clothes, hope this works. If anyone thinks that is Mike looking like that, they either have superpowers to see through disguises or noticed the changes he was going through before. Michelle, cute name. Not able to go home, Aaron's parents home, teleport back to the shed, now the hard part of what to do next.
People watching to use his ESP power, practicing to figure out what information he gets since it isn't random. Doodad, an alumni of Whateley Academy, a lot of details picked up that time by Mike's ESP power. Having to lie to a cop and still getting talked to about being too young to be wandering around on her own. Having to teleport away from a protective cop with a daughter just a little younger than Mike, at least it was for a good reason.
At least Mike realizes how stupid a teleport snatch would be. Ugh, guy his dad's age pinching his ass, just sick. Store owner who beats his girlfriend and too cheap to buy real security cameras except to cover the cash register. Whelp, sounds like he is getting robbed. Ah, another limit of her teleportation we've seen but have more details now, can't carry much and has to be close to her body.
And Mike/Michelle likes the nail polish, definitely no problem with the changes except that nagging voice. White Diamond in the area, teleports and somehow White Diamond is right in front of Michelle, tries to run only for White Diamond to appear in front of her appear. Punching her like hitting a brick wall, and knocked out with a stun gun, oh boy.
Wakes up naked in a hotel room, changed even more into a girl than before. Dressed again and figures out she is at the Arch, White Diamond coming in and leading her out to meet someone, the other supervillain who had been in Corvas' office. D'oh! White Diamond locked onto his warper power and can find Michelle anywhere now. Adam Dupree aka Focus, Martina Simmons aka White Diamond.
At least Focus is giving Michelle the opportunity to 'make things right'. Dad still alive but badly beaten up, only because of Mister Harper. And White Diamond using sign language, wonder why, is it because she can't speak or what. Tell Mister Corvas Michael Cook is dead once he agrees to the job, oh boy, deeper and deeper. Well, White Diamond can hear, but still haven't seen her speak once yet. And setting up power testing, was pound to happen sooner or later.
Ouch, minor GSD that affects her vocal cords so she can't talk, not talked since she was Michelle's age, kind of feel sorry for White Diamond now. Ah, teleportation with a thick fog like effect, plus left poor Michelle nauseous, ouch. Long drive with someone who can't talk, yikes. Ah, a power mimic who can only copy certain kinds of warper powers, interesting. Building like that for a hidden lab, always useful to not stand out.
Crimson hair, eyepatch, and tie-dyed lab coat, oh boy, devisor is my guess. Doctor Betty aka the former Nightmare Nurse. Blue oranges, the humanity! Exemplar 3, capable of lifting well over four hundred pounds, dang. Dang, ESP is no longer a secret, environmental awareness with elements of psychometry and a danger sense thrown in. Warper 3, Esper 2, plus teleportation more versatile than previously thought but not by much. Still a good mix of abilities. What is Doctor Betty laughing about, plus collecting blood samples, that is beyond creepy.
Ouch, up to a B cup already. Learning American Sign Language, memorized a lot of it in one night, impressive. Nice to have new clothes that fit. Practicing sign language with White Diamond, wondering if White Diamond was driven into her life of crime. Oh boy, White Diamond has plans for Michelle, salon visit and hair styling here we come.
Just knew it was something like that."IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE A WOMAN, YOU MUST LEARN TO TAKE PRIDE IN YOUR APPEARANCE. YOUR HAIR IS ATTROCIOUS."
A lecture on proper hair care and maintenance, at least she is learning new things. A hair style similar to Ms. Perfect's, should have known. A manicure and more shopping, White Diamond throwing her into the deep end of being a female and Michelle loves it. A bomb in the car and a creep with powers and a gun, great. Increased density and one of 3 warper powers she has semi-permanently copied, nice.
Oh boy, an idiot after a bounty on White Diamond's head, gets up with a broken arm for his trouble so far. Yikes, dematerialize the ground and then rematerialize it right around the guy, deadly move White Diamond has. Reminded Michelle that even though she is nice to her, she is still dealing with a supervillain.
And the trip was also about power testing, figures. Oh boy, testing her fighting abilities now, what does Focus have planned. Focus is an energizer, with a codename like that I was expecting something else. Gather nearby energy and focus it into a single spot, that is probably a lot more dangerous than it sounds. Sparring with Focus and White Diamond, good learning experience.
And blowing a kiss at her own reflection, hehe. Corvas and Harper there, yikes, at least they don't recognize her. Saying she is Leah and a new intern, oh boy, if they figure out she teleports the same way Mike did this will cause a lot of trouble. Dealing with Corvas must be a pain, man seems to have a temper and is short-sighted. Harper looking at Michelle like that, ewwwww. A codename to use on the job to hide her identity, going simple with Tether, nice choice.
A black cat suit and mask, oh boy, that will get Michelle attention. Tech Head, either gadgeteer or devisor with cybernetic eye and plug in jacks, nervous around attractive women, must be hard in his line of business. Imp turned down this job, wonder what year this is set in, as we have seen dates but no year yet. A vault owned by Doctor Hansel Averton aka Doctor Avarice, what could they be after in there. Ah, just a storage cache and not have to deal with him directly.
Ah, making a point for the Syndicate since Doctor Averice owes them a lot of money and hasn't payed yet. Isolated security systems that can't be remotely hacked, figures he is smarter than the average criminal. Canary to detect any security threats, ouch, tough job. Security cameras and electrified fence, would think it would be something more lethal. Okay, yeah, parked cars that are weapon systems in disguise, that is more like it. Cars that split open to reveal Gatling guns, yikes.
Nice way to take out all the car-Gatling gun traps. Ability to turn things intangible, misread what happened in the scene with the guy earlier, that is a much more powerful ability. Dang, all those cars, anyone robbing the place would be tempted. Dang, more traps than expected inside the vault. And Doctor Avarice values his collections more than paying back his debts, good grief. A pile of platinum bars, can see what Focus wanted to hit this place.
Ack, having to distract superheroes with a ranged stun gun, poor Tether just can't catch a break. Windswept and Cast Iron, a guy with a Dynamorph, oh boy. And even Star Spangled Woman, this isn't good. Oh boy, thinking everyone in the government is corrupt and little difference between his dad and politicians. Actually holding her own with the help of the drones.
And Focus shows up to help, and Star Spangled Woman is annoyed at Tether for shooting her repeatedly even though it doesn't harm her. Taunting the heroes, plus Focus is right, don't want a rep as a hero killer. Blowing up the van to distract from their real escape, clever though costly. And in the back of the moving van driven by Tech Head, well thought out means of escape. Grrr, testing how Tether deals with hostile heroes even though it wasn't needed, Focus is too manipulative.
Enjoying being hot, definitely a change from most changelings this early into their transformation. Heading to Sacramento now, wonder if she will drop in on Aaron one last time. Whoa, debt cleared and a $10k bonus as well for how well the job went. Corvas there and armed, with Harper and some goons, demanding all of the take from the job. Crud, White Diamond out cold thanks to Harper.
And Corvas and Harper are acting like a bunch of mobster thugs, saying Focus stole from them by going after Doctor Avarice's vault without them in on it. Unprofessional scum like this need to be put out of operation. Corvas planning to murder them in a sound-proof room, ugh. Whoa, smaller tethers to pull objects to herself, that is major. Stun gun to Corvas and one goon, another with a body slam into the wall, dang. And Harper is unaffected, dang.
Focus back in action, blast Harper, blast the goon who gets back up to a smear on the wall, yikes. Don't cross Focus. Great, escape with White Diamond, only for 3 guards to show up and only one taken down. Having White Diamond play possum, shot in the in thigh while trying to lead them away, only to teleport right back by White Diamond and take both goons down. I know the higher the exemplar level the fast they can learn, but Michelle is learning things very fast.
Yikes, White Diamond awake but moving slowly and a bit unstable, Harper coming up badly burned in several spots but with Focus in his right hand, tough bugger. Harper was augmented by a devisor, but it cut his lifespan by two decades, he is nuts. Maximum density and pounding on Harper, White Diamond shows more power than before. Oh boy, taking one of the goons guns to shoot up Corvas and using a tether to put some distance between them, Michelle is getting a bit reckless.
Only for Focus to kill Corvas with an energy blast, greed will get you in the end. Yikes, killing Harper that way, just brutal. White Diamond thinks they lost everything, in a car about to make their escape, lost clothes and bonus for Michelle. Yet she tethered by suitcase full of cash and brought it to them, so not a total loss. Surviving Corvas, Harper and his goons, I would be happy to get out of that alive.
At a safe house and recovering, Focus having cracked ribs from the fight, they all got banged up bad. Great, Corvas' replacement wishing to kill them to prove he can deal with threats to his power. Oh boy, Focus is trying to recruit Tether to help them on jobs in exchange for setting her up at Whateley Academy. Wanting trained operative who owes him a favor or two, plus finder's fee if she does contract work for the Syndicate.
Oh boy, envying Ms. Perfect for her ability to do whatever she wanted, regardless of rules or other people's opinions. And that type of thinking about how the world works, due to his upbringing and everyone he has been exposed to he thinks everyone has things they want and will do whatever it takes to get them. And she takes the deal, oh boy, hope Tether doesn't regret this later.
Spare key to the apartment hidden in the broom closet on the floor below theirs, with no apartment number on it, sneaky. The place a mess in such a short amount of time, someone having gone through his drawings and comic book pages, uh oh. Even waiting around to confront Brad with how much she has changed. Brad is actually happy his younger sibling is alive, despite how much she has changed.
And their dad lied about what happened to Brad, saying he tried to save Mike from Corvas and that Mike had been killed. Hearing the truth and Brad knows that is more like their dad. Revealing Corvas was shot, Harper not a problem anymore, one handed curl with a bar intended for both arms at once, Michelle has grown a lot more confident. Well, that was more emotional and caring from Brad then expected, probably the last they will see each other.
And visiting Aaron, his mom more shocked to see a pretty girl visiting her son. Telling the tale of what happened after they last saw each other, finding out Michelle is there to say goodbye.
Too close, no kissing just to say goodbye, that would be cruel. And at least White Diamond knows how hard saying good bye is."You don't owe me anything," Aaron protested. "We're friends. You should always help friends..."
Arriving at Whateley Academy and Poe Cottage on October 27th. Telling Michelle about their being other changelings in Poe, having to keep the secret of Poe for the safety of everyone there. Roomed with another changeling, Jennifer, who is a teleporter as well. D'oh, GSD not exemplar, poor kid. Whoa, she is roomed with Twist, didn't see that coming. Wait, it is 2001, they are class of 2005, didn't see this coming. Knew Twist was a graduate of Whateley but still. Interesting backstory for who is probably a supervillain by the time the class of 2010 show up.
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- Kristin Darken
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mhalpern wrote: in other words it all takes place 2 months after 9-11.. Damn would not want to attempt to board a plane to get to Whateley then, normal TSA would be bad enough.
9/11 didn't happen in the WU. An attack on US soil by terror groups DID occur back in the early 90's but the trade towers were not hit by planes.
Supposedly.
I forget if we revealed that historical deviation in a story or if it was just talked about in an exposition laden forums discussion/canon materials release.
Fate guard you and grant you a Light to brighten your Way.
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- Esar
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And I think it is in your best interest for us not to spoil you who each one are if you have not read it yet : http://whateleyacademy.net/index.php/original-timeline/487-a-glow-in-the-darkness
But In case you really want to know but don't want to read the story, but you really should :
The liberty league "hires" Twist, a freshly graduated whateley student with a similar powerset as glow's one, and Ginormous asks Twist to help Glow masters her power.
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Kristin Darken wrote:
mhalpern wrote: in other words it all takes place 2 months after 9-11.. Damn would not want to attempt to board a plane to get to Whateley then, normal TSA would be bad enough.
9/11 didn't happen in the WU. An attack on US soil by terror groups DID occur back in the early 90's but the trade towers were not hit by planes.
Supposedly.
I forget if we revealed that historical deviation in a story or if it was just talked about in an exposition laden forums discussion/canon materials release.
Something of note must have happened. From The Devil's Dance, Part 2
The lights dimmed in the auditorium and the distinct backdrop of New York at night. The twin pillars of light rising up from the place where the Two Towers once stood were the brightest light from the stage. Then a soft spotlight illuminated Sara and Axel as he began to play and Sara softly sang;
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I noticed more than one slightly teary eye as the crowd slowed and fell into the slow pacing of the song. Sizzle was leaning against one of her friends and seemed to be crying openly, and then I remember that she had lost an uncle in the attack on the World Trade Center. Her friend wrapped her in a hug and then several of her friends came over and it turned into a group hug around her.
I thought I'd recalled that one tower went down, but the second plane was intercepted in the WU. I must have been recalling some other fictional universe.
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On another note... Am I the only one who get reminded of a Shadowrun game by this story?
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Also I think the stories should divided in Pre-G1, G1 and G2 (with stories focusing on events predating G1 being in pre G1 even if they are presented as flashbacks from the prespective of a character living in the G1 or G2 timeframe, such as Mimeographic or Razzle Dazzle) rather than Original Timeline and G2..... even if it might spoil the time scam of this story.
Now the story presents us some interesting Supervillains (Focus and Co.) but it also presents us with some very bad exemples of criminals, starting with Mike's/Michelle's father (fake diamonds to pay a debt to the local crime boss? That's asking for trouble ), and Harper and Corvas? Doesn't killing children draw unwanted attenction, I mean, if it's a thug being killed it's bad but criminals killing each other is kind like business as usual at street level (a debt, an insult, dealing with a rival, old fashioned robbery, the possible reasons are many), unless this starts happening too often people won't think much about it, let criminals kill each other as long as they don't bother me.... but a child, what kind of monster kills a child? That's the kind of thing that makes people fear for their own children, and people tend to make up the majority of the electorate, which can make politicians take action to show that they are doing something, which means they pass the hot potato to the cops, which means business becomes harder, it's better to track down the father (who's the one trying to screw them over) and make a point with him. Also while I can understand Harper being a thug as he is the one that deals with street level operators, meaning that he has to deal with anything from small time but professionals to thugs that only understand strength and violence, so violence and intimidation are necessary tools of the trade, but Corvas? He is the boss, he is supposed to have a more business-like approach, he is in for making money, that means that he has to care about things like networking and reputation, what does he act like, just another thug, I mean, Mike's father was the one who tried to pay him with fake diamonds, he is the one who organized the robbery of the jeweler store, he is the one who actually stole the diamonds, a smart boss would have explained Mike why that robbery was bad for business, why he couldn't tollerate him operating in his territory, then give him the choice between redeming himself (like Focus did) or being made exemple of what happens if you screw in his territory, this way he would have had Mike working for him, making money for him, and could have made exemple of the father (baybe breaking his spine leaving him paralized but alive so that can be used to control Mike). But what does he do, tries to kill the kid who's more or less an innocent dragged into that mess by his father, then he lets the real responsible walk away, beaten up but still walk away, that's stupid. A businesman would have taken stock of the situation and tried to get the most out of it, he completely ignored the potential that Mike possessed and went for 'you inconveniented me, you die' <sarcasm>because a dead kid would have made his life easier</sarcasm>.... hell, he could have handed him to the Syndacate for training and collect the finder fee from any job Mike performed. How did he become the one that run Reno's underworld is beyond me.... as for the way he acted with Focus, the events speak for themselves.
And speaking of suboptimal criminal, the guy trying to collect the price on White Diamond's head, please, tell me he wasn't a professional, I mean, declaring his intenctions? What about just getting the job done? You know, quick, efficient, with as little fuss as possible? Well, at least he can fit the ham/'moron trying to make a name for himself' category, which is much easier to understand than the thugish attitude shown by Corvas.
Ok, maybe I'm a bit negative, the story is good and the characters were interesting (at least, most of them were), I'm sorry if I bitch about Corvas so much but a good antagonist add a lot to a story, Corvas just isn't one.
On a much better light, I really liked Aaron, how he stays true to his friend (it would be hilarious if he manifested and became Major Macho to Michelle's Miss Perfect), and I liked the Brad, he was a thug, and an asshole, but he cared for his brother in his own way..... honestly I feel a bit sorry for him being stuck living with his father, I just hope he somehow manages to grow as something different than his old man.
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Actually, he did try to just "get the job done." Car bomb, remember? The idea being to kill her before she even noticed she was being attacked.Otherself wrote: And speaking of suboptimal criminal, the guy trying to collect the price on White Diamond's head, please, tell me he wasn't a professional, I mean, declaring his intenctions? What about just getting the job done? You know, quick, efficient, with as little fuss as possible? Well, at least he can fit the ham/'moron trying to make a name for himself' category, which is much easier to understand than the thugish attitude shown by Corvas.
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Also... you want to offer that sort of feedback, please take it to the Suggestion forums or a PM to staff in the future. It doesn't belong in the feedback thread for a story.
As to expecting all criminals to be competent? Uh... really? For the most part, one of the GOOD parts about the Whateley Universe is that we include non-cliche villains... ones that aren't megalomaniacs, ruthless thugs, sadistic butchers, etc. We offer villains who are against the law because the laws are in support of people who have hurt them... or whose powers just don't lend themselves to being heroes... or simply because they see the world too practically to be heroes. This complexity is an advantage. But that doesn't mean that EVERY criminal in the WU is good at what they do. There are some hitmen who are just sadistic butchers making a buck while getting their kicks. There are crime lords who were born into it just like Ayla was born into money... and who ended up in charge because no one stronger wants to step forward or because even though the new kid is an idiot, he still has the family name and while he isn't building the rep, he hasn't completely blown it yet either.
And this IS Reno. Its not exactly one of the bigger, more important cities in the US.
Fate guard you and grant you a Light to brighten your Way.
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Thanks, but I have read the stories. I'd just completely forgotten them. (Sorry Morpheus). I've read all the canon author's Whateley stories. I just don't always remember the names of random enemies, like Twist.Esar wrote: They are characters appearing in A Glow in the Darkness,
one of Morpheus first canon stories.(not really).
And I think it is in your best interest for us not to spoil you who each one are if you have not read it yet : http://whateleyacademy.net/index.php/original-timeline/487-a-glow-in-the-darkness
And I was kind of disappointed at the end. Since the storydoesn't taking place in the current "now". It means we don't get to see Michelle attending Whateley. I was expecting to read future POV stories about a student who plans to be a criminal. We don't really have that in any of the existing continuing stories. (I don't really count Tansy as she's more likely to end up a gray hat.)
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jmhyp wrote: I was expecting to read future POV stories about a student who plans to be a criminal. We don't really have that in any of the existing continuing stories. (I don't really count Tansy as she's more likely to end up a gray hat.)
Hum I am wondering whether or not you will get your wish fulfilled sooner than you think (And I am not trying to be facetious here). Morpheus has already introduced a character in Gen1Y2 who potentially could meet those criterias but I am not even sure if they truely want to become a criminal or if it just aligns with their primary goal (to survive). Anyway I don't think we will see their PoV until latter in the school year so we will have to wait.
If you have read Morpheus fanfictions, it is safe to read the spoiler, if not it could ruin a potential suprise:
Also, even if I don't think it is likely, maybe Morpheus will write some stories about Tether at Whateley.
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Twist isn't an enemy,jmhyp wrote:
Thanks, but I have read the stories. I'd just completely forgotten them. (Sorry Morpheus). I've read all the canon author's Whateley stories. I just don't always remember the names of random enemies, like Twist.Esar wrote: They are characters appearing in A Glow in the Darkness,
one of Morpheus first canon stories.(not really).
And I think it is in your best interest for us not to spoil you who each one are if you have not read it yet : http://whateleyacademy.net/index.php/original-timeline/487-a-glow-in-the-darkness
And I was kind of disappointed at the end. Since the storydoesn't taking place in the current "now". It means we don't get to see Michelle attending Whateley. I was expecting to read future POV stories about a student who plans to be a criminal. We don't really have that in any of the existing continuing stories. (I don't really count Tansy as she's more likely to end up a gray hat.)
Any Bad Ideas I have and microscene OC character stories are freely adoptable.
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Off to reread...
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jmhyp wrote: And I was kind of disappointed at the end. Since the storydoesn't taking place in the current "now". It means we don't get to see Michelle attending Whateley. I was expecting to read future POV stories about a student who plans to be a criminal. We don't really have that in any of the existing continuing stories. (I don't really count Tansy as she's more likely to end up a gray hat.)
Well, Morpheus' other definitely criminal character doesn't even seem to give her future career a second thought...
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Ok, I might have to apologize for being in the wrong thread, it started with me not getting the point of deceiving the readers about the year the story takes place in (that's not like knowing that detail makes us look back at the events in a different light, sure it's slightly different from what we expected but the events have no different meaning than before).... then the timeline placement caused that little part about organizing the stories pop up due to idea association.Kristin Darken wrote: Fortunately for us, Otherself, you aren't in charge. We're writing stories. Some of those stories will fall into clearly defined plotlines/arcs... some of them will not. We have them divided up into two categories for convenience for people who may not understand that there is a second group of authors writing in a separate timeline ten years in the future (referred to loosely as Gen 2). And then we have a non-canon library for when we have a wild hair that isn't in the WU. But no, we have no interest in creating separate classifications and sections of the web site for every piece that establishes a new area or plot arc. There are, if you take time to really LOOK, more than a dozen of these... and there are a number more planned (some are Pre-G1, some are REEEEEALLY pre-G1 (as in Sundering era), some are concurrent but not in any way connected to the G1 timeline, some take place between G1 and G2, and some will take place post G2). Why do we consider this unimportant? Well, because generally we assume that a reader willing to take the time to read more than 9 million words of stories doesn't need to us to map out everything for them.
Also... you want to offer that sort of feedback, please take it to the Suggestion forums or a PM to staff in the future. It doesn't belong in the feedback thread for a story.
Sorry.
That part wasn't me complaining about the author not giving us a good villain, it's me telling the reasons why I think Corvas sucked at doing his job, to be honest I wouldn't even have commented about him if he had been at least consistent in his making exemples, however he let Mike's father (you know the one who tried to scam him and then caused him the to lose the jeweler job) live while he is dead set on getting the kid killed.... to express it using geometry killing a kid is bad for business, and that one dimension of bad business practice, killing a paranormal who accidentally inconvenienced you rather than making him work for you and turn a profit for you is waste, it nets zero money and gives up any possible income that might have come from exploiting Mike's abilities (and for the reputation factor, a mutant working to pay his debt off is as good as as a corpse due the implied 'or else' that the mutant is afraid of), and that is the second dimension of bad business practice, if you have one OR the other you have a line, if you have one AND the other you have a surface, and Mike covers both factors. But Corvas thinks exemples need to be made, fine... I mean, I still think it's stupid but that is the way he operates, however he then doesn't go through and lets Mr A-hole live, he is the one that he has every logical reason to make exemple of, he is in his hands, all he has to worry about is make sure that the right people get the message loud and clear, and he lets him go. That single fact makes his whole 'making exemples' act inconsistent and hurt his reputation, that's not like he doesn't come through as dangerous, but he also comes through as a lunatic, that adds another dimension to the mistake, making what would have been a surface into a volume, that is enough to make me comment about it.Kristin Darken wrote: As to expecting all criminals to be competent? Uh... really? For the most part, one of the GOOD parts about the Whateley Universe is that we include non-cliche villains... ones that aren't megalomaniacs, ruthless thugs, sadistic butchers, etc. We offer villains who are against the law because the laws are in support of people who have hurt them... or whose powers just don't lend themselves to being heroes... or simply because they see the world too practically to be heroes. This complexity is an advantage. But that doesn't mean that EVERY criminal in the WU is good at what they do. There are some hitmen who are just sadistic butchers making a buck while getting their kicks. There are crime lords who were born into it just like Ayla was born into money... and who ended up in charge because no one stronger wants to step forward or because even though the new kid is an idiot, he still has the family name and while he isn't building the rep, he hasn't completely blown it yet either.
And this IS Reno. Its not exactly one of the bigger, more important cities in the US.
So no, I'm not complaining about being given a bad criminal as antagonist (if he hadn't been one the story would have taken a completely different path), but I think that Corvas sucked at his job and his death is basically natural selection applied to the criminal world.
Yeah, he did, he also did try to shot her before starting hamming out, but there's no point telling the target that you are going to kill her and why, she doesn't need to know, she only needs to die, also, while the bomb was an excellent start and shoting before talking is actually a pretty sensible approach, his overall performance was pretty lacking, to the point that he seemed to have no plan in case the bomb failed.... did he even gather information on his target? He kept shoting her with a weapon that had no effect, if he had made his homework he would have had an heavier weapon or at least he wouldn't have wasted bullets, not to mention that he totally understimated her skill in hand to hand combat.Sir Lee wrote:
Actually, he did try to just "get the job done." Car bomb, remember? The idea being to kill her before she even noticed she was being attacked.Otherself wrote: And speaking of suboptimal criminal, the guy trying to collect the price on White Diamond's head, please, tell me he wasn't a professional, I mean, declaring his intenctions? What about just getting the job done? You know, quick, efficient, with as little fuss as possible? Well, at least he can fit the ham/'moron trying to make a name for himself' category, which is much easier to understand than the thugish attitude shown by Corvas.
Oh, did I mention how hammy he came across..... it was actually satisfying 'watching' him get crud stomped.
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But I have to shake my fist at Twist for putting the year 2000 in the wrong millenium. The year 2000 was the last year of the 2nd millenium, not the first year of the 3rd millenium.
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jmhyp wrote: I don't see that character (in the spoiler) as wanting to go into a life of crime. I just think she's extremely guarded.
I agree.
Also, this is Morpheus. Tether will show up again.
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annachie wrote:
jmhyp wrote: I don't see that character (in the spoiler) as wanting to go into a life of crime. I just think she's extremely guarded.
I agree.
Also, this is Morpheus. Tether will show up again.
She probably already has, we just didn't notice because her name wasn't said.
Don't Drick and Drive.
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One thing I picked up on after completing the updated version of Absinthe: Michelle picks up that Mel, the guy at the Italian restaurant, is slightly allergic to strawberries. It's just a silly coincidence but noticeable that Morpheus has used this pretty closely in two stories. No biggie, just pointing it out.
But maybe...are these allergies hereditary? There couldn't be any way that Mel is related to Centurion? ::conspiracy music::
Thanks again for the stellar tales.
Marie
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