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Question "Hit" counter - and "Preview"

9 years 5 months ago - 9 years 5 months ago #1 by elrodw
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    • I almost wish we didn't have a hit counter. It's ... well, to paraphrase Charlie Brown (adaptations in red),

    "I almost wish there weren't a hit counter. I know everybody likes Morpheus more than me. Why do we have to have a hit counter to emphasize it?"

    Important note: HUMOR. Tongue in Cheek. Not serious. "That was a joke, son", etc, ad nauseum.

    On a second topic (because I hate to waste a topic), it would be nice if we had a "Preview" button where we could review what we've written before it's posted to the forums - to catch formatting errors, color errors, etc, etc, etc.
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    9 years 5 months ago #2 by Phoenix Spiritus
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    • If you use the Action button rather then the Quick Reply you get a preview tab.
    9 years 5 months ago #3 by Valentine
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    • It is right below whereyou put the subject heading. One tab is "Write," the other "Preview."
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    9 years 5 months ago #4 by E M Pisek
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    • elrodw wrote: I almost wish we didn't have a hit counter. It's ... well, to paraphrase Charlie Brown (adaptations in red),

    "I almost wish there weren't a hit counter. I know everybody likes Morpheus more than me. Why do we have to have a hit counter to emphasize it?"

    Important note: HUMOR. Tongue in Cheek. Not serious. "That was a joke, son", etc, ad nauseum.

    On a second topic (because I hate to waste a topic), it would be nice if we had a "Preview" button where we could review what we've written before it's posted to the forums - to catch formatting errors, color errors, etc, etc, etc.


    The hit counter is unreliable. The same person can go back and forth several times causing it to incriminate upwards. A person does not even have to be logged in to cause it to go up. I would say take it with a grain of salt. Or pepper whichever you prefer. I wouldn't loose any sleep over it.
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    9 years 5 months ago #5 by Kristin Darken
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    • Ya. There's a preview... as long as you don't use quick reply.

    And if you want REAL unique hits, I can post those. The numbers deviate from page clicks a bit. I've worked out a bit of a theory on that... the longer a story is, the more likely people are to download it once and read it offline... and then post comments via PM or forums. In a shorter story, they will read through once and comment directly. In a mid-range story, they may try to read it online and then find it longer than they expected... so have to come back again to read more.

    Add in that I've set things up so people comment on the story pages and that can artificially inflate page hits (one of the main reasons I'm trying to discourage conversation/discussion via story comments).

    But yes, page hits can be a hit on the self esteem if you let it. But really... 'most' people are just reading everything that we post. The number of people who selectively read one author over others... are generally balanced out by the ones reading the other. We have that advantage over a site like BCTS where everything is different topics and some people don't read certain authors or categories or whatever, simply because its outside their normal genre preferences. Everything here is a Whateley super story. And with things as integrated as they tend to be, people will read everything; even where its a story they wouldn't otherwise read because of style.
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    9 years 5 months ago #6 by elrodw
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    • Kristin Darken wrote: But yes, page hits can be a hit on the self esteem if you let it.


    It makes me want to cry. :(

    And just to repeat, "That's a joke, son. Get it? A joke."
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    9 years 5 months ago - 9 years 5 months ago #7 by E M Pisek
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    • elrodw wrote:

    Kristin Darken wrote: But yes, page hits can be a hit on the self esteem if you let it.


    It makes me want to cry. :(

    And just to repeat, "That's a joke, son. Get it? A joke."
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    I'm sorry suh, life is to serious too be a joking matter :evil: .
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    9 years 5 months ago #9 by Dawnfyre
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    • ok, I'll look at setting a bot to go after elrodw's stories so his hit count skyrockets over Morpheus'

    ;)

    and yes a simple wget script wrapped in a bash script could do that. ( bash to start the wget, then delete the pages from the folder downloaded and loop )


    just joking there, that type of action could be mistaken as a dos attack.
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    9 years 5 months ago #10 by Phoenix Spiritus
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    • elrodw wrote: And just to repeat, "That's a joke, son. Get it? A joke."
    (foghorn leghorn)


    Yeah, but this is he Whateley forums, we could either a) laugh, or b) ignore the humour and disect to comment ad infinatum. Do I really need to state our preference?
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    • Dawnfyre wrote: and yes a simple wget script wrapped in a bash script could do that. ( bash to start the wget, then delete the pages from the folder downloaded and loop )

    I know that was a joke, but FYI, you can avoid creating a file at all like this:
    wget -O - http://wherever.com
    The -O tells it you want to specify the filename that it will write to, and using a dash as the filename tells it that you want it to write to stdout (i.e., your console) instead of using a file. That's useful for testing things without having to clean up after yourself.
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    • Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

    elrodw wrote: And just to repeat, "That's a joke, son. Get it? A joke."
    (foghorn leghorn)


    Yeah, but this is he Whateley forums, we could either a) laugh, or b) ignore the humour and disect to comment ad infinatum. Do I really need to state our preference?


    Being a Devisor I choose c) We dissect the humor as we laugh at the ad infinatums that stream our way.
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    • Kettlekorn wrote:

    Dawnfyre wrote: and yes a simple wget script wrapped in a bash script could do that. ( bash to start the wget, then delete the pages from the folder downloaded and loop )

    I know that was a joke, but FYI, you can avoid creating a file at all like this:
    wget -O - http://wherever.com
    The -O tells it you want to specify the filename that it will write to, and using a dash as the filename tells it that you want it to write to stdout (i.e., your console) instead of using a file. That's useful for testing things without having to clean up after yourself.


    but then I couldn't run it as a background process. lol background something constantly spitting to stdout is a nightmare.
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    • Dawnfyre wrote:

    Kettlekorn wrote:

    Dawnfyre wrote: and yes a simple wget script wrapped in a bash script could do that. ( bash to start the wget, then delete the pages from the folder downloaded and loop )

    I know that was a joke, but FYI, you can avoid creating a file at all like this:
    wget -O - http://wherever.com
    The -O tells it you want to specify the filename that it will write to, and using a dash as the filename tells it that you want it to write to stdout (i.e., your console) instead of using a file. That's useful for testing things without having to clean up after yourself.


    but then I couldn't run it as a background process. lol background something constantly spitting to stdout is a nightmare.


    Which is why the unix gods invented /dev/null. Anything written to /dev/null goes straight into the aether. As such, if you make the command
    wget -O /dev/null http://wherever.com
    , you can trigger the fetch, but the downloaded content goes straight to the bit bucket.
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