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Question portrait view support

9 years 5 months ago - 9 years 5 months ago #1 by shadeofred
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  • I touched on this briefly in another thread when I said "mobile support", but I just tried this site on my tablet (9.8 inch screen) on both chrome and the baked-in browser, and neither of them does portrait layout properly for the site..... mainly the ad on the left side keeps covering up the page content making it impossible to read.

    I know you mentioned that the site is intended for landscape layout, but the portrait layout should probably still be touched up.... at least that nasty ad region expanded or moved so it doesn't cover page content.

    Also, I don't know if it is possible as I haven't fully tinkered around with the forum settings, but it would be nice if a user could eliminate the "popular tags" and "latest forum threads" windows from the layout, as it takes up another huge portion of the screen in portrait view.
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    9 years 5 months ago #2 by annachie
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  • The original tries I made with my Samsung phone had the add taking the top of the screen, with the content showing below it, and everything else stacking below that.

    Wasn't too bad.
    9 years 5 months ago #3 by shadeofred
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  • What browser were you using, and what OS version?
    9 years 5 months ago - 9 years 5 months ago #4 by Kristin Darken
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  • I'm not trying to be a jerk but... you guys are asking for something that just isn't practical. A web site like this cannot serve every display size simultaneously. Yes, using scalable / relative CSS; I can do a lot better than was possible ten or fifteen years ago... but to believe that you are going to get an ideal performance on your mobile for something designed for the majority use... is just being silly. We are HUNDREDS of hours of work from being finished with THIS version of the site. The idea of a separate mobile targeted design is so far down the priorities list that... well... a lot of things have to happen before we get here.

    Now... before you get all grumpy with me, let me point out what you CAN do. While on your desktop, laptop or other reasonably sized display... you have the capability of setting up subscriptions and RSS feeds. These will let you keep tabs on important conversations in the forums or in comment sections on stories/articles in your email or an RSS ticker on your device. Like getting IM's from the web site about what's going on.

    You can also find at the top right of every article, an option that allows you to email that article to someone. Planning on some travel time and need some Whateley variety reading material on your small screen device? Email it to yourself and read it from the tailor designed email system app or reader that was built for that purpose.

    Yes, your small device is going to have problems in real time with the advertisements. Well, the STAFF is going to have problems keeping the site open at all if we aren't getting at least a little revenue from ad traffic. So telling us to remove it and work harder .... not likely to ensure that you are heard. Your small device is also going to have some problems with a menu structure and template designed for a larger side with more display space. On the other hand, its a hobby site. For authors and readers. Words take up screen space. Conversations take up screen space. Even the most mobile friendly forums in existence are far from ideal for mobile use... because the very concept of a web page generated on the fly by the site to provide a subset of the possible data within a template format... is NOT conducive to simplistic 'sparse' design principles. Especially to a PORTRAIT design. The only thing designed for portrait these days is a smartphone held a a phone and leftover dead tree print copy. Everything else expects you to use a widescreen landscape layout.

    To use a site like this with a small mobile requires some creativity... but the features are there to use. And you're going to have to be creative because WE don't have a full time IT department building custom software for the site tailored to your personal needs.

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  • The one that came as a default. I tried Firefox on the android and hate it. Same with Chrome.

    Posting now from my phone and it looks ok both portrait and landscape.

    Kristin, I wouldn't worry about it.
    9 years 5 months ago #6 by shadeofred
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  • My intention wasn't to say "remove the ads and work harder", and I'm sorry if it came out like that. I know how hard website design can be and the extra hours something like I was talking about would entail, and was not expecting you to drop everything and work on it.

    In the future I will try to word my posts differently to sound less demanding. Things I write on my phone/tablet sometimes come across as terse due to me not wanting to type as much on their interfaces as I would on a laptop.

    However, I think I would have preferred not getting a response and seeing this thread float downwards into the forgotten depths of the server than get a somewhat..... vehement reply.

    Again, apologies for the way I sounded.
    9 years 5 months ago #7 by Kristin Darken
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  • Don't worry, I'm not upset. But I'm trying to point out in a round about fashion that there are two ways a suggestion forum can go. One is that people talk about what's wrong. The other is where they talk about what could be better, and potentially look at/offer up solutions (realistic ones) for how to achieve it.

    We all know that there are issues with mobiles. And ultimately, the only realistic solution is a mobile adaptation of the site. I don't have time to do that now... so we either move on to 'how do we still use mobiles despite the issues with them on the site?" or someone else offers to look into mobile device based templates and how one could be tweaked to work with our purposes. That isn't necessarily going to change my priority for it... but if it might result in it become a quick enough job, it could happen.

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    9 years 5 months ago - 9 years 5 months ago #8 by Phoenix Spiritus
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  • On the topic of suggestions to 'improve' things.

    Is it possible in the forum to change from a three column layout to a two colum layout, and move the stuff in the two outer column to the same colum under each other?

    In the forums, with all the user information, we are basically getting three narrow columns (left main starting with account settings, column of poster names and avatars, thicker colum with the actual posts, and then right main colum starting with login). Just thinking a combined colum on the left, something like login, account settings, ads, then the rest of the stuff down the left will make better use of the available space because forums after a few post scroll right down and the two main columns don't actually go very far, meaning there is a lot of white space, so there is no need to take up two columns at the top.

    Would make things a little more readable as it'll give the posts that little bit of extra width.
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  • I just noticed something.
    I'm currently using a desktop, with a less than full screen Firefox window, and at about 1/2 screen it's shuffling the sections to vertical layout like it does on my phone.

    Have you tried adjusting the size of the text on your phone?
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