Question A new destroyer

I swear this thing looks like it came out of a Star Wars movie.

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Either that or an expensive tree house boat.

Edit: Maybe me hath speakith to soon. Perhaps Star Trek given that the Captains name is James Kirk. No lie.

Dang, looks close enough to an Imperial Destroyer made water bound. You got your Star Trek in my Star Wars, you got your Star Wars in my Star Trek! Can't believe the captain of that is James Kirk.

Ib12us wrote: I swear this thing looks like it came out of a Star Wars movie.

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Either that or an expensive tree house boat.

Edit: Maybe me hath speakith to soon. Perhaps Star Trek given that the Captains name is James Kirk. No lie.

ha that thing was made in bath Maine! my gramps old ship yard before some numb skull shipped him out to Europe to go fix tanks!
morons! ya take a man with over 10 years in fixing and building and running boats and make him fix tanks!???????

but I love the look! have to wonder if it will work thou?

I can hardly wait for the more nerdy talk shows to get around to comment on it...

For some strange reason, I want to build a couple of TIE fighter kites, and take them to Bath, Maine

lighttech wrote:

Ib12us wrote: I swear this thing looks like it came out of a Star Wars movie.

[img size=45x45] s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/AWL2TU4PzlHBOl...97d6abe75749d911.jpg [/img]

Either that or an expensive tree house boat.

Edit: Maybe me hath speakith to soon. Perhaps Star Trek given that the Captains name is James Kirk. No lie.

ha that thing was made in bath Maine! my gramps old ship yard before some numb skull shipped him out to Europe to go fix tanks!
morons! ya take a man with over 10 years in fixing and building and running boats and make him fix tanks!???????

but I love the look! have to wonder if it will work thou?

It looks like that because its adopting a core design philosophy from tanks, sloped armor, it will work

mhalpern wrote: It looks like that because its adopting a core design philosophy from tanks, sloped armor, it will work

Nope. Destroyers aren't heavily armored at all. The purpose of the sloping side is to eliminating reflect radar away from a direct return, and the removal of (as much as possible) 90 degree corners significantly cuts down on radar reflectivity. Strength of a radar return is greatly enhanced by right-angle surfaces - that's how you make a good corner reflector. Get rid of the corners and you go from inverse square law on power to inverse 4th. (1/r - where r is the range - with some constant factors). The combination yields far less radar reflection, and thus far less received power at the radar receiver. (Basic physics and EM)

That said, I suspect that having sloped sides facilitates the deflection of physical projectiles just as well as it deflects radar.

Arcanist Lupus wrote: That said, I suspect that having sloped sides facilitates the deflection of physical projectiles just as well as it deflects radar.

I thought they were just giant slides to skateboard down on.

Modern weapons aren't always designed to 'hit' a target, they often use specialy shaped charges and proximity fuses instead.

e.g. The latest US / Australian designed torpedoes are designed to blow-up under ships, and use specially designed explosions to first push up, then quickly suck down ships and crack the ship's spine. For small enough ships (like destroyers) they'll break the ship in half.

Similarly, lots of anti-tank missiles use proximity fuses to explode near a tank and instead of hitting the armour with kinetic force, they use the explosion to create a plasma stream which they use to cut into the armour like a plasma torch.

Am I the only one that finds this ship hideously ugly?

No, you are not. Of course, an ugly ship that works is better than a pretty one that does not.

Valentine wrote: Am I the only one that finds this ship hideously ugly?

Am I the only one that wanted to make a comparison between the looks of this and the Merrimac?

Of course, then I looked that up to make sure I was remembering it correctly and read that the image we tend to hold, of when it was an ironclad, was when it had been rebuilt into the Virginia.

Most of the superstructure is false. Clearly designed to hide it's true features from the press and other lookie loo-s who can diagnose what it's equipped with by looking at photo's etc.

Yolandria wrote: Most of the superstructure is false. Clearly designed to hide it's true features from the press and other lookie loo-s who can diagnose what it's equipped with by looking at photo's etc.

Probably a good thing, because as it looks it would be ridiculously top heavy. I wouldn't trust that thing in heavy seas at all.

Yeah it's pretty easy to spot. If you look into the bigger openings on the side you can see it's plywood or some other wood substrate. Pretty much a dead give away lol.

After watching this vid on it i have to agree. It looks like your right.

The other thing to remember about these types of ships is that frequently, the superstructure is aluminum (Yes, that's right, Astrodragon - it's ALUMINUM! There's no bloody "ium" in the word!) Add in all the machinery, fuel, and such in the bottom of the ship, and with the top being mostly empty space inside the compartments, and you can understand a ship that looks top-heavy but really isn't.

As a comparison, look at some cruise ships - where the tower above the water AND go from nearly stem to stern, unlike the upperworks of a combat vessel, and yet are quite seaworthy, because the top decks are mostly empty space.
(example: pixabay.com/en/cruise-hamburg-aida-prima-port-1624522/ )

Also, remember that most large ships these days use a rotational stabilizer that applies centrifugal force to keep the ship upright, so 'top-heavy' doesn't mean what it used to.

It's still fuppin ugly

Bek D Corbin wrote: Also, remember that most large ships these days use a rotational stabilizer that applies centrifugal force to keep the ship upright, so 'top-heavy' doesn't mean what it used to.

You mean "top-heavy" no longer means girls with big .... um ... upper frontal ornamentation?

elrodw wrote: it's ALUMINUM! There's no bloody "ium" in the word

There is every dictionary I use!

What, first you mangle the poor words pronunciation, they you start stealing the letters from the poor defenceless word too?

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

elrodw wrote: it's ALUMINUM! There's no bloody "ium" in the word

There is every dictionary I use!

What, first you mangle the poor words pronunciation, they you start stealing the letters from the poor defenceless word too?

I just don't understand why it isn't "ALUMINOUM" considering you spell everything with an "ou."

Valentine wrote:

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

elrodw wrote: it's ALUMINUM! There's no bloody "ium" in the word

There is every dictionary I use!

What, first you mangle the poor words pronunciation, they you start stealing the letters from the poor defenceless word too?

I just don't understand why it isn't "ALUMINOUM" considering you spell everything with an "ou."

Is there a rule... U after O except after I?

Unless you're Elrod, in which case the rule is Vowels are Evil and want to eat your brains

Astrodragon wrote: Unless you're Elrod, in which case the rule is Vowels are Evil and want to eat your brains

But I thought BKCRMWDJVG was written about by Diane...

You know, every time I log on the forums while still sleepy and look at the title of this thread, my first thought is "What? They are bringing a second Tennyo to the WU?"

Valentine wrote:

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

elrodw wrote: it's ALUMINUM! There's no bloody "ium" in the word

There is every dictionary I use!

What, first you mangle the poor words pronunciation, they you start stealing the letters from the poor defenceless word too?

I just don't understand why it isn't "ALUMINOUM" considering you spell everything with an "ou."

What are you talking about? I'm Australian, we spell everything with an "ie"!

Knock as many letters off as you can, add an "ie", that's the way it's done!
Aussie
Mozzie
Cossie
You get the idea.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

Valentine wrote:

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

elrodw wrote: it's ALUMINUM! There's no bloody "ium" in the word

There is every dictionary I use!

What, first you mangle the poor words pronunciation, they you start stealing the letters from the poor defenceless word too?

I just don't understand why it isn't "ALUMINOUM" considering you spell everything with an "ou."

What are you talking about? I'm Australian, we spell everything with an "ie"!

Knock as many letters off as you can, add an "ie", that's the way it's done!
Aussie
Mozzie
Cossie
You get the idea.

Except for when you just add the ie.
Destroyerie: a place where you find Destroyers

Sir Lee wrote: You know, every time I log on the forums while still sleepy and look at the title of this thread, my first thought is "What? They are bringing a second Tennyo to the WU?"

Could be another Remo Williams...

Kristin Darken wrote: There's a name I haven't seen in a while.

There was a series, called "Legacy" I think, that featured Remo's Daughter and Son.
Mostly his Daughter.

Not very good really.