Question New Movie.

I just found this a few mins ago and had to share!

Squeeee!
*Prays to the good movie gods* Please Sony don't mess this up!

Could be good, or it could be a horrifying mess.
Too soon to tell. But I really hope they do it justice.

here is a cleaner link for that Robotech movie

because that link was very wonky for me

io9.gizmodo.com/the-director-of-the-new-...ring-robo-1796991824


And Dom is right, could be great or a complete mess that makes you barf!

Starship troopers I am looking at you!!!!!

lighttech wrote: here is a cleaner link for that Robotech movie

because that link was very wonky for me

io9.gizmodo.com/the-director-of-the-new-...ring-robo-1796991824


And Dom is right, could be great or a complete mess that makes you barf!

Starship troopers I am looking at you!!!!!

I made a successful saving throw for Starship Troopers, so those movies don't exist for me.

Valentine wrote:

lighttech wrote: And Dom is right, could be great or a complete mess that makes you barf!

Starship troopers I am looking at you!!!!!

I made a successful saving throw for Starship Troopers, so those movies don't exist for me.

Starship Troopers (1997) is the height of political satire! It attacks Heinlen's thesis in much the same way that The Forever War did, and it even tricked audiences into cheering for blatant fascist iconology.

It even has a shot-for-shot adapted scene from Triumph of the Will.

Now the made-for-tv sequels? Those you need saving throws for, and a free reroll, just in case.

Katssun wrote:

Valentine wrote:

lighttech wrote: And Dom is right, could be great or a complete mess that makes you barf!

Starship troopers I am looking at you!!!!!

I made a successful saving throw for Starship Troopers, so those movies don't exist for me.

Starship Troopers (1997) is the height of political satire! It attacks Heinlen's thesis in much the same way that The Forever War did, and it even tricked audiences into cheering for blatant fascist iconology.

It even has a shot-for-shot adapted scene from Triumph of the Will.

Now the made-for-tv sequels? Those you need saving throws for, and a free reroll, just in case.

The Cartoon version was good. Much closer to the source, better dialogue, better story and better tactics.

I'm probably the only person who saw the picture at the top of the linked page and went "Wow! A Macross Live Action movie!

Wait, RoboTech? What the hell is Robotech? Seriously, WtH is going on here!?"

Harmony Gold, that's why.

No Macross allowed in the US, ever.

Harmony Gold USA , may their name be cursed for perpetuity, bought the US distribution rights to Macross from Tatsunoko (who do not own the intellectual property and sold them illegally to Harmony Gold), and US Copyright Court recognized Harmony Gold as the co-copyright owner of the Macross intellectual property.

Harmony Gold butchered SDF Macross and two other series into Robotech, and aggressively defend their dubious copyright, by not only suing any attempts to bring Macross to the US (though somehow ADV did manage it for a box set, no idea how though), they even sue things that resemble Macross or Robotech.

Studio Nue successfully sued Tatsunoko in Japan to clarify they are the sole intellectual property rights owner and that Tatsunoko had distribution-only rights for outside of Japan, but their claims are not recognized in the US.


So yeah, this kind of stuff is why the Whateley authors and staff should be as careful as you are about the rights to canon Whateley content and characters.

Katssun wrote:

Valentine wrote:

lighttech wrote: And Dom is right, could be great or a complete mess that makes you barf!

Starship troopers I am looking at you!!!!!

I made a successful saving throw for Starship Troopers, so those movies don't exist for me.

Starship Troopers (1997) is the height of political satire! It attacks Heinlen's thesis in much the same way that The Forever War did, and it even tricked audiences into cheering for blatant fascist iconology.

It even has a shot-for-shot adapted scene from Triumph of the Will.

Now the made-for-tv sequels? Those you need saving throws for, and a free reroll, just in case.

Try reading the book if you have not?

after reading watch the movie and you will vomit!

Its like this think of 'Apocalypse now' the movie as the book
but a movie comes out and you go to see your fav in film!!!
and in the movie, the guys swim up the river and the boat--all of the boat parts are left out???
then the VC the enemy.... are all replaced by bad french mimes!!!

that's how bad it was!

I am quite certain that Katsunn knows the book well enough to recognize how immature it really is, and how ripe its hidden, vaguely cryptofacist aspects (ones which led RAH himself to later admit that the book's message came out exactly the opposite of what he wanted it to be*) were for parody.

That having been said, it wasn't originally meant to be a parody of ST, or even an adaptation of ST at all; the original script and storyboarding were significantly more cynical and politically oriented, and had no direct reference to RAH's book. Until one of the studio lawyers - who was something of an SF reader herself - pointed out that Bug Hunt on Outpost Nine - an Aliens pastiche based on the premise of "what if the power plant never blew, and they were stuck there with no actual escape?" and a lot more corporate and government intrigue - was structurally similar in a few ways to ST, neither Neumeier (the scriptwriter) nor Verhoeven even heard of ST, at which time the studio execs had already decided to license the novel just to be on the safe side. It was only later that then bother to read the novel and lightly incorporate aspects of it to the existing script.

What influence ST had on the original script was indirect - Aliens was heavily influenced by The Forever War, which was in turn a post-Vietnam reappraisal of Starship Troopers that explored what Joe Haldeman saw as the conceptual flaws of RAH's novel. The way I understand it, when Haldeman was drafted, his enthusiasm for his service was informed in part because of how much ST impressed him, and his own experiences in the war and after (fictionalized in pastiche in his later novel 1968) made him bitter towards the book he saw as leading him astray. Other aspects of his experiences - most notably his

*) As I understand it, the intended focus was on self-reliance, honor, and the importance of a strong personal sense of ethics, with the military stuff just a way to explore how libertarian ideals could co-exist with the needs of civil defense and the best interest of society. This was in the late 1950s, before he had adopted (and then discarded) Objectivism and at a time when he was still caught up in the post-war patriotism and pro-military attitudes - reinforced, in his case, by his lingering regret that he had mustered out of the Navy on a medical in 1934 for TB, and when the war began and was still too sick to re-enlist. Supposedly, the main impetus of the book was as a protest against the nuclear test moratorium of 1958, which he saw as both appeasement towards the Soviets and an exaggeration of the risks of the testing.

lighttech wrote: Its like this think of 'Apocalypse now' the movie as the book
but a movie comes out and you go to see your fav in film!!!
and in the movie, the guys swim up the river and the boat--all of the boat parts are left out???
then the VC the enemy.... are all replaced by bad french mimes!!!

OK, but what if we replace them with African tribesmen instead? Maybe set in, oh, I don't know, Congo Free State circa 1890? Maybe we could publish the novel in, say, 1899...

But then, if George Lucas had done it as a dark satire , as was the original shooting plan before Coppola asked to helm it instead, he might well have had the mimes.

Schol-R-LEA wrote:

lighttech wrote: Its like this think of 'Apocalypse now' the movie as the book
but a movie comes out and you go to see your fav in film!!!
and in the movie, the guys swim up the river and the boat--all of the boat parts are left out???
then the VC the enemy.... are all replaced by bad french mimes!!!

OK, but what if we replace them with African tribesmen instead? Maybe set in, oh, I don't know, Congo Free State circa 1890? Maybe we could publish the novel in, say, 1899...

But then, if George Lucas had done it as a dark satire , as was the original shooting plan before Coppola asked to helm it instead, he might well have had the mimes.

Lucas is in the film as an Easter egg! have you ever noticed it? and its a big one!