Question Possible new canon author ideas and discussion
- Sir Lee
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Topic Author
- JG
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- Kristin Darken
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The ideal author would be willing to commit to 3 (or 2-4) 20k word content releases per year for at least three years with 2/3 of their material developing their own new character 'in time' with the timeline and 1/3 of their work in further development of the universe (either a crossover with other characters or teams, a backstory piece fleshing out the universe more, or a team up with another author on something 'big picture').
People who have been active as WhatIF writers and can show success with the universe obviously have a foot in the door, but most authors can expect at least SOME audition process required. This is more to make sure you're willing and able to work with US and within the context of the shared process than to see your writing skill (there are plenty of good writers who would be fine just writing their own WU stories... but that doesn't mean they are willing or able to adapt to meet the requirements of the canon authors and the universe and its no point in recruiting people who can't work with us).
People who are 'new' to us as authors, will also get the opportunity to show us their writing skills as part of their audition.
We thought about cloning Morpheus... but we suspect he'll just assimilate the clones. I'm fairly sure there is an apocalyptic result down that path, so... maybe we'll have to hope to solve the problem a more traditional way with recruiting.

Fate guard you and grant you a Light to brighten your Way.
- Oneiros
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Also Polk Kitsune is a lovely human (or rather foxy) being and has written one and a half great stories so far.
With those two writing for Gen 1 I would certainly read a lot more of that.
- Kristin Darken
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Fate guard you and grant you a Light to brighten your Way.
- Astrodragon
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I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
- Oneiros
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- XaltatunOfAcheron
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Hikaru (Sunshine and Fury) - 9-19
Cerulea (Laura and the Fan Club) - 9/29
Eisenmädel and Calliope (Dorms 4.6) 10/02
Glyph (Ink in her Veins) 10/8
E.E. Nalley's complex - 10/10
Dragonsfyre (as e'er...) 10/17
So yes, Astrodragon has run ahead of everyone else, and that may cause consistency problems for characters that want to catch up.
I don't know what, if anything, is in the queue, of course, so take that with a grain of salt.
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Oh, yes, the last part of Flowers of the Sun is all by itself on 11/24 and 11/25.
- DanZilla
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- Astrodragon
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You all need to write faster! faster, faster, pussycat, kill! kill!

I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
- Kristin Darken
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XaltatunOfAcheron wrote: I decided to take a look at the status of Gen2. Here are the last dates of stories for the major characters:
Hikaru (Sunshine and Fury) - 9-19
Cerulea (Laura and the Fan Club) - 9/29
Eisenmädel and Calliope (Dorms 4.6) 10/02
Glyph (Ink in her Veins) 10/8
E.E. Nalley's complex - 10/10
Dragonsfyre (as e'er...) 10/17
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Oh, yes, the last part of Flowers of the Sun is all by itself on 11/24 and 11/25.
Here's the thing though. Gen 1 authors may have character / protagonists in the mix of Gen 2 to help flesh out the timeline, but our characters are literally meant to be support not limiting factors. So... Cerulea at the end of Sept, E.E.'s inclusion of Kodiak's kids and Nick... don't really count.
What DOES count are:
NeoMagus: Tanya
Astrodragon: Morganna
MaLAguA: Vic
Wasamon: Erica
MageOhki: Taka or maybe Hikaru
And to a lesser extent the two characters whose authors didn't even really make it to the Gen 2 release: Bailey and Fiorella (who were created by Katie and Souffle Girl).
The idea that ANY of these characters is ahead of someone else is nonsense. It's a self-imposed limitation. Some of these characters don't have any critical stories to tell every semester. So waiting for those characters to catch up to someone two weeks ahead of them is ridiculous. There is only (on average) one MUST BE WRITTEN story in the Gen 2 timeline for each month in the timeline. Those are the stories that move forward the overall plot ... and other than being sure to properly foreshadow upcoming critical stories OR having 'aftermath' comments or impacts on characters and setting (without spoilering those events)... any author can move forward at whatever pace they like. They certainly don't have to limit themselves because others are two or three weeks behind. We're not writing journals.
I haven't seen a single author say "Please don't write/release your next story until I have a chance to get such and such finished and posted to the public. There's too much interwoven to do that without a spoiler or hurting my story." THAT should be the only reason to delay because other authors are not at the same point in the time line.
Look at how far Diane advanced the timeline using Ayla while most authors of Gen 1 were stuck at Halloween. It didn't hurt the quality of stories that were told later by Elrod or E. E. when they 'caught up'.
Fate guard you and grant you a Light to brighten your Way.
- Katssun
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Tanya & (Sterling)
Tanya & Vic
Tanya & Vic & (Sterling)
Hikaru & (other RAs)
Hikaru & Tia
Hikaru & Taka
Taka & Jimmy
Jimmy & Vic
Laura & (girlfriend)
Laura & Bailey
Bailey & (Zapper)
Erica & Cally
Bianca & Morgana
Bianca & (Tinker)...(and other Underdogs)
Bianca & Morgana & (AJ)
etc.
Unlike Team Kimba, who maybe had two separate groups at the most, but they all always hang out every day in a common room or someone's room. Gen 2 might have started out as a ensemble story, but the authors definitely set it up to allow for significantly more character and plot line independence. M3 begin to diverge almost right away once they arrive on campus. Laura's plan for a good lunch table is what keeps them together, whether or not it's really dawned on them quite yet...
- Astrodragon
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Second, yes, I could carry on writing Morgana forward in time, but unless we want to get into all sorts of awkwardness it will cause problems. I don't want to tie the other writers into what I think the timeline should be like, even ignoring the issue that I am supposed to be keeping to the main line stories, which currently I'm ahead of. So I've slowed down until the main story line progresses a bit further.
I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
- Kristin Darken
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Hell, I waited for year two of Gen 1 to happen for something like twelve years so I could introduce Esoteric.

Anyway... the point of my posts is that authors who are active have permission to progress. They/you also have permission to write spin offs in either timeline (or to fill in 'universe' stories and flesh out noodles). Primarily Gen 2 authors should avoid spending too much time working with anything that is core Gen 1 plotline and Gen 1 authors should do the same about Gen 2... mainly because both are complex enough that it would be quite easy to get things mixed up in your brain and end up with continuity errors or spoilers (ie the same concept as avoiding reading too much WhatIF stuff without being careful to separate it from your canon work).
And Astro... you can agree or not. It doesn't change anything - both Elrod and Morpheus are active and if they are concerned that you are getting 'ahead' of them, they have the ability to write circles around you, me and three other authors combined to get back ahead.

Fate guard you and grant you a Light to brighten your Way.
- elrodw
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Anyone who comes in as a new author will quickly discover this to be a truth. And seriously think about joining the cabal. You, too, can become one of us
one of us
one of us
one of us
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Never give up, Never surrender! Captain Peter Quincy Taggert
- XaltatunOfAcheron
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elrodw wrote: The other thing that has to be noted for authors and potential authors is that the Wiki for Whateley has become THE go-to reference, and the effort of the people inputting data and maintaining it is possibly the most important thing to letting us authors weave together disparate stories with overlapping characters. I'm probably understating things when I say that it's valuable; I'm not sure I could write some of my stories without that reference material. So on behalf of me (the only person I'm entitled to speak for), I have to say my hat is off to you, many thanks, gracias, pat yourselves on the back, you are appreciated, etc, etc, etc.
Anyone who comes in as a new author will quickly discover this to be a truth. And seriously think about joining the cabal.
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If you do "Special:re" and click on recent changes, you'll get a list of what's been changed recently. As of right now, the last 50 changes are by one person: me.
There are other people who do occasional changes, and they're very welcome, but I'm carrying close to the entire load of bringing the wiki up to date.
While I'm happy to do this as a service to a site that's given me a lot of enjoyment, there's one slight problem with depending on it:
I'm dying of untreatable stage 4 cancer. I'm surprised I've lived this long, and I'd be highly surprised if I make it to the end of the year.
I'm not looking for sympathy although healing prayers would be appreciated.
What needs to be done with the Wiki falls under two headers: bringing it up to date, and keeping it up to date once it's there.
I won't say this is easy, because the typical story part takes a couple of days of work. I'm serious about that.
However, to follow on with what Elrod just said, if you (and I mean the Canon authors) want this invaluable resource to <i>continue</i> to be useful, it needs to be maintained as stories are posted. There is no other way.
- DanZilla
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In Astrodragon's case this could mean the difference between a Breakfast conversation the next day involving talking about Cally's problems or comforting her to talking about floral print dresses instead.
NOW... this has been a bit of a topic change from the thread... lets get back to discussing who people would like to see as Canon Authors...
- elrodw
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We want to see if we can bring in fresh talent. All of you who write IF and microscenes and have asked "how do I become a canon author?" - this is your chance to indicate interest, and have your fellow Whateley fans / readers give their support and thumbs up.
If you might be interested, don't be shy. At all.
Never give up, Never surrender! Captain Peter Quincy Taggert
- null0trooper
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I'll toss my hat in the ring, although my long-form game needs work.
Forum-posted ideas are freely adoptable.
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- CrazyMinh
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XaltatunOfAcheron wrote:
elrodw wrote: The other thing that has to be noted for authors and potential authors is that the Wiki for Whateley has become THE go-to reference, and the effort of the people inputting data and maintaining it is possibly the most important thing to letting us authors weave together disparate stories with overlapping characters. I'm probably understating things when I say that it's valuable; I'm not sure I could write some of my stories without that reference material. So on behalf of me (the only person I'm entitled to speak for), I have to say my hat is off to you, many thanks, gracias, pat yourselves on the back, you are appreciated, etc, etc, etc.
Anyone who comes in as a new author will quickly discover this to be a truth. And seriously think about joining the cabal.
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If you do "Special:re" and click on recent changes, you'll get a list of what's been changed recently. As of right now, the last 50 changes are by one person: me.
There are other people who do occasional changes, and they're very welcome, but I'm carrying close to the entire load of bringing the wiki up to date.
While I'm happy to do this as a service to a site that's given me a lot of enjoyment, there's one slight problem with depending on it:
I'm dying of untreatable stage 4 cancer. I'm surprised I've lived this long, and I'd be highly surprised if I make it to the end of the year.
I'm not looking for sympathy although healing prayers would be appreciated.
What needs to be done with the Wiki falls under two headers: bringing it up to date, and keeping it up to date once it's there.
I won't say this is easy, because the typical story part takes a couple of days of work. I'm serious about that.
However, to follow on with what Elrod just said, if you (and I mean the Canon authors) want this invaluable resource to <i>continue</i> to be useful, it needs to be maintained as stories are posted. There is no other way.
Shit, seriously? Damm, that's some shitty fucking luck. I mean, dude. I'm not religious, but my heart's out for you. Is there absolutely nothing they can do for you? I mean, other than painkillers?
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- CrazyMinh
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You can find my stories at Fanfiction.net here .
You can also check out my fanfiction guest riffs at Library of the Dammed
- Enemyoffun
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Master of The DarkRealms
The DarkRealms Universe
- Rose Bunny
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Does it involve mermaids. because I already told you my thoughts on those.Enemyoffun wrote: I wouldn't mind trying. I'm working on something. It could easily fit into either Gen.
Just kidding.
High-Priestess of the Order of Spirit-Chan
- Enemyoffun
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Rose Bunny wrote:
Does it involve mermaids. because I already told you my thoughts on those.Enemyoffun wrote: I wouldn't mind trying. I'm working on something. It could easily fit into either Gen.
Just kidding.
It does not involve Mermaids. Its about the power of fists LOL.
Master of The DarkRealms
The DarkRealms Universe
- Kristin Darken
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Fate guard you and grant you a Light to brighten your Way.
- Rose Bunny
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Kristin Darken wrote: Underground exemplar fighting matches?
First Rule of Exemplar Fight Club is there is no Exemplar Fight Club.
High-Priestess of the Order of Spirit-Chan
- CrazyMinh
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You can also check out my fanfiction guest riffs at Library of the Dammed
- Astrodragon
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Kristin Darken wrote: Underground exemplar fighting matches?
Already in Vegas
I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
- MageOhki
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- Camospam
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Some formalities:
1) XaltatunOfAcheron: So sorry to hear, may you find peace in your beliefs and be surrounded by love.
2) CrazyMinh: I accept your apology.
Each day at work feels as if I'm a chained up dog, restrained by rules and regulations. Writing allows me freedom to run wild, chase squirrels and just be me.
While I have great appreciation for the canon authors and the work they do for our enjoyment, I am not seeking to become one, I thrive on the possibilities 'what if?' presents.
- CrazyMinh
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Camospam wrote: 2) CrazyMinh: I accept your apology.
Thanks, dude. I still feel really bad about what I said back then. Very glad to hear you're OK to return to the fold. Again, I cannot apologise enough for what I said. It wasn't the cool thing to do.
Minh.
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