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5 years 8 months ago #1 by CrazyMinh
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    • ...so, Star Trek Discovery takes place 10 years before KIRK’s 5-year mission in the 2260’s; during a war between the Klingons and the UFP, right?

    Bzzzt! Not canon!

    The Federation-Klingon war was going as early as 2245. 2245 was the year when the Battle of Donatu V occurred between the Klingons and the Federation. The 2240’s also marked the famous Battle of Axanar, the battle that Garth of Izar is famous for.

    It is stated in the first episode of Discovery that no Federation ship had come into contact with the Klingons for 50 years. As the above proves, this is either a big fat lie; or proof that Discovery does not exist within the canonical timeline.
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    5 years 8 months ago #2 by Kristin Darken
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    • I don't mean to burst your bubble but... almost no producer is going to care about universe continuity as much as fans do. There's no profit in it. There's more dramatic tension in seeing something that no one has seen in fifty years. There's more dramatic tension in igniting a war than in continuing one. Trying to keep continuity on something that someone is trying to make a profit on... is going to go as well as keeping fifty puppies in a 2 foot cube.
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    5 years 8 months ago #3 by E. E. Nalley
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    • Minh, STD isn't in the Prime Timeline, it can't be. It's a rights issue. If you want a breakdown on the complete Cluster bomb that are these rights, watch this summary by Midnight's Edge
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    5 years 8 months ago #4 by null0trooper
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    • CrazyMinh wrote: ...so, Star Trek Discovery takes place 10 years before KIRK’s 5-year mission in the 2260’s; during a war between the Klingons and the UFP, right?

    Bzzzt! Not canon!


    I think that you're coming to a faulty conclusion.

    You are talking about a narrative universe that has demonstrated the existence of more than one concurrent timeline, with significant differences amongst them even while containing parallel characters. There's also time travel to consider.

    If the Discovery universe has as many discrepancies from your preferred canon as you've complained about before, then it is clearly NOT the same universe as the one shown in either the Original Series or the Kelvin timelines. If treating them as the same results in contradictions, the most likely fault is that of the person assuming that they are the same. If that person has made those assumptions because that's what they were told, they are still the ones making the analysis using falsifiable premises.

    Therefore, it doesn't matter that one Kirk or the other goes on a five-year mission in their 2260s, because even if the Discovery universe's timeline has a James Tiberius Kirk there's no guarantee that he will do the same as the others.
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    • E. E. Nalley wrote: Minh, STD isn't in the Prime Timeline, it can't be. It's a rights issue. If you want a breakdown on the complete Cluster bomb that are these rights, watch this summary by Midnight's Edge


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