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Question Along came a Sin

6 years 6 months ago #1 by ShadowedSin
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  • Dia dhuit! Or um, HI!

    I am ShadowedSin, aka Sin, or to some of my friends, Quinn!

    A little about me, I'm a writer / publisher with a huge focus on queer stories with most of my characters being gay / transgender or gnc. I have a published book ThreeFold Seer Volume 1 / Other than that I have been reading TG and lez fic for the last several years as a personal love. This is beside my devouring of pretty much any decent epic fantasy and scifi series I can get my hands on.

    IRL I am transgender, I started my transition six months ago, and I'm out and proud about it. I actually thought about transitioning when I was younger, and often lived my desires / dreams through various stories. My top favorite TG fic authors are Julie O cuz I loooove Jirra! Then there's Morpheus and a few others. Actually, it was Morpheus' work who drew my attention to Whately and I have progressively been reading through the stories in chronological order. Just finished "The Mountain (Part 1)" and I'm working through a few others right now.

    So a bit more about me than the above. I'm a classical non-trained author type, I developed my style after writing a few half-noels and completed my first about three years ago (an epic redux on the Amazon Nation). Recently, as I've been reading Whately I have played with a heroine type for a bit, a sort of Avatar character I'd love to write about in the coming months. Long story short, her codename is Scald-Crow, and she's a human who is hosting the spirit of the ancient irish goddess, the Morrigan. Her primary enemies are undead characters based on the old Irish idea of the Sluagh, you know mindless soul devouring creatures that appear as a massive flock of birds (did I mention I'M A MASSIVE MYTHOLOGY GEEK?). Other than that I've been putting together a TG team made up of old tragic folk heroes and fate goddesses.

    Not sure so far, but I like gods of fate just my thing.

    Anywho, that is me :D Hi and welcome! I have some early samples of Scald-Crow on my facebook where I've been working through her and so far I have yet to really fit her into the local world. Technically she's "sidhe" I guess, but she's proto-faerie since I'm using the early Cycles of Irish myth like the Tain.

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    6 years 6 months ago #2 by E!
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  • Hello and welcome!

    If your looking for more Whateley Material check out The Tunnels . It is where some authors write and post their stories away from the WhatIF section , although some have made the leap. In the tunnels you got Rose's Eire and Call of the Waters, Null's Metro, and others. Also the Micro Scene thread is pretty cool too if you wanna try out some ideas or write one offs, and some people even write ongoing stories there.

    Have fun!
    6 years 6 months ago #3 by Kristin Darken
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  • Greetings, welcome, rah!

    mythology geeks always welcome, as far as I'm concerned.

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    6 years 6 months ago - 6 years 6 months ago #4 by Rose Bunny
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  • Ack.. Ebola, don't point me out.. point out someone that's actually a good writer. Did you know there is a student at Whateley that may be a Sluagh.
    Shadowdancer . As you know there are plenty of Sidhe around the school. If you want to hit the tunnels, as mentioned, you could write up some interactions with them... I'm going to drop my Sidhe into Whateley itself, once the baby is born. Anyhow, greetings and enjoy your stay.

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    6 years 6 months ago #5 by null0trooper
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  • Welcome!

    I'm shoehorning a bit of Norse myth into my own sprawling scenes collection and stories, but more from an "American Gods" angle, so there's that. There's surely room for even more takes on the mythmakers!

    Forum-posted ideas are freely adoptable.

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    6 years 6 months ago #6 by Katssun
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  • Welcome!

    Another voice in The Workshop is always welcome! It's a good place to practice on my average writing skills before I finally get around to finishing all of my original work...I totally will, you'll all see! :pinch:
    6 years 6 months ago #7 by ShadowedSin
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  • Hi again everyone!

    Currently speeding through some more (I read pretty dang fast) of the first gen canon fics trying to piece together more on my OC. I'm trying to figure out where her powers fit if she's gaining power from an Irish Goddess. It would seem that either Morrigan was a powerful Sidhe who resided on Eire over a thousand years ago, or she is something else. The Irish Gods were weird (talking Tuatha De Danann, fun fact Morrign is actually my patron goddess IRL).

    So if she is a Sidhe what is she? Cuz her titles included the "Great Queen, the Phantom Queen" etc. She was a powerful shapeshifter, sorceress of sorts and was basically Queen of the Bean Sidhe (Lady Faerie) and was the one who supposedly foretold a few nasty ancient Irish Kingly deaths. So I guess she'd have some weird wonky powers. Plus if I add glamour, blah sorry. Is this the wrong forum to ask?

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    6 years 6 months ago #8 by lighttech
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  • ShadowedSin wrote: Hi again everyone!

    Currently speeding through some more (I read pretty dang fast) of the first gen canon fics trying to piece together more on my OC. I'm trying to figure out where her powers fit if she's gaining power from an Irish Goddess. It would seem that either Morrigan was a powerful Sidhe who resided on Eire over a thousand years ago, or she is something else. The Irish Gods were weird (talking Tuatha De Danann, fun fact Morrign is actually my patron goddess IRL).

    So if she is a Sidhe what is she? Cuz her titles included the "Great Queen, the Phantom Queen" etc. She was a powerful shapeshifter, sorceress of sorts and was basically Queen of the Bean Sidhe (Lady Faerie) and was the one who supposedly foretold a few nasty ancient Irish Kingly deaths. So I guess she'd have some weird wonky powers. Plus if I add glamour, blah sorry. Is this the wrong forum to ask?


    I would get permission for the fan fic/what IF authors section from Kristin Darken the drop question on this in the 'workshop'

    Ohh by the way I write Drow based fan fics!

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    6 years 6 months ago #9 by null0trooper
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  • ShadowedSin wrote: So if she is a Sidhe what is she?


    She'd be one of the very few survivors and reborn members of a race that blew itself into extinction thousands or even millions of years ago, and only posing as one of the Tuatha de Danaan.

    ShadowedSin wrote: Plus if I add glamour, blah sorry. Is this the wrong forum to ask?


    General discussions on what the Sidhe are w/r Whateley Universe and their magic also fit in the Concepts/Big Picture forum topic. Part of what you are wanting to know may already be discussed there.

    Forum-posted ideas are freely adoptable.

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    6 years 6 months ago #10 by Kristin Darken
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  • Well, the important thing to remember is that if you aren't writing under the canon banner, it doesn't really matter what specifically we would define it as in canon... because non-canon stuff can go whereever it wants.

    But... if you DO want to bring this into canon as much as possible... you'll want to get a good understanding of
    1. Sidhe, the Courts, and pre-Sundering society - most of what we consider mythology of the Tuatha da Danaan and faerie... is explained as oral tradition and outside perspectives of the survivers of the Sundering... those who were forced to flee from this world because all Essence was consumed/destroyed in the destruction of the World Trees and the Courts as a result of the Sundering of space-time. Some of those who survived did so in a sort of energy state... and modern mutants and technology interact with them as spirits and gods. Others survived by going off-world, both via interplanetary gates and living ships... and also escaped off-dimension. Either alternate dimensions or offworld gates can account for 'under hill' references. Many of the other references can be explained through their people's inability to live on this world... not because of the proliferation of iron, even though they are allergic to it and the effect it has on Essence... but because the world was absent Essence which the Sidhe need to survive.

    pre-Sundering Sidhe are physically stronger, smarter, and generally more evolved physically than humans. A Sidhe put through mutant testing will typically test out as an Exemplar 3 or even 4... but that is simply the 'default' for Sidhe. Like Exemplar 1 is baseline... for... well... baselines. :) Sidhe also are inherently magick, they are made up as much by Essence as physical elements... and do not need a lit Well (or a Well at all) to use magick... they either use their own life force for Essence or they draw it naturally from their surroundings. Stronger Sidhe mages can draw from more specific sources, including ley lines, nodes, and other world scale Essence supplies. The Sidhe could also provide temporary connections to other beings (spirits or the divine) though this was not as symbiotic an ability as Avatars and was typically magick driven instead of an innate ability.

    2. You need to understand the differences between Avatar, Channelers, and Paladin - avatars have a symbiotic bond with a hosted spirit. channelers bond with a spirit or dimensional entity who stays in their home realm but has an agenda in the physical world and contributes power to the channeler for the purposes of that agenda and the channeler's survival. a paladin is something of both... and bonds with a being far too powerful to be hosted in its entirety. the being creates a shard of its nature and power and plants this in the paladin, while bonding to them also, not unlike a channeler, so that they can guide and support the shard of themselves and its host.

    4. A glamor in the sense that is used in the WU is a protective world class/level spell that the Sidhe Courts created to protect their young. It generated some sort of defensive field around each pre-adult who was a part of their Society, stronger among those of status, and generally reflective of that young Sidhe's nature and role in society. Aung had an aura that generated love and respect... made it easy for her to acquire champions to come to her aid. But lust, fear, confusion, and so on... any such thing could be an effective protection to keep the Court youth from casual danger.

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    6 years 6 months ago #11 by ShadowedSin
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  • Kristin, those answers are suuuuuper helpful. That actually parses a few ideas to something a bit more specific! I did notice that Aung seemed to have a few Avatars (the previous woman in the Mystic Six) and I'm picking apart a few ideas. I usually always like the idea that a god gains power (pretty common fiction idea) by being worshipped. So if I get a few more details hammered down, i think I could possibly get things to a reasonable canon friendly setting (I have a few more goals than just making it canon friendly, I'm a challenge driven writer).

    I made a thread about it in the Big Picture forum, I hope to then take those details and work out the character.

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