Question Describe a book in six words

Arcanist Lupus wrote: I just saw a game on facebook that I thought would be fun to play here.

The idea is pretty much exactly as stated - you must describe a story that you like using exactly six words. Then other people guess what story it is.

For example:
"Boy gets bison, boobs, and angst" would be a description for the first Kayda story.

Hey! I do MORE than just angst! Sometimes. Maybe. Once-in-a-while.

For Riddle of Sappho, would it be something like

"Girl gets laid, jailed, and acquitted"

Not real girl gets eaten, hilarity.

Girl turns fairy, goes crazy.

Girl gets penis, almost sacrificed, twice.

Christmas in Los Angeles, Demons beware

Domoviye wrote: Girl turns fairy, goes crazy.

That would be the Tink that we all know and love.

Valentine wrote: Christmas in Los Angeles, Demons beware

Ayla's Christmas story.




Miracles in New York. Greed abounds.

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Miracles in New York. Greed abounds.

Angel in Father John's Basement.

So I'm going to guess at the first one Arcanist Lupus said. Is it the Mistborn series? Specifically The Final Empire?

venum4k wrote: So I'm going to guess at the first one Arcanist Lupus said. Is it the Mistborn series? Specifically The Final Empire?

Ding ding ding! You are correct!

Guess I'll add some too then...

Necromancer girl searches for her dad. Solved - Sabriel (Abhorsen Trilogy)
Man invents parallel earth travel box.
Boy learns to fight alien bugs. Solved - Ender's Game

Well, I can't think of anything else right now.

OK, let me try...

> Faerie and team fight horrible monstrosities
Could be a bunch of stories, really, but sounds like one of the Boston Brawls.

> Harmless prank prompts wacky school-wide warfare
"Ayla and the Great Shoulder Angel Conspiracy"

Rival school tries to steal bust
> =Yawn= Too easy. "Quoth the Ninja, Nevermore."

> Man invents parallel earth travel box.
"Sliders"?

> Boy learns to fight alien bugs.
Fits both "Starship Troopers" and "Ender's Game", although "Ender's" fits marginally better.

OK, a few of my own:

Travelers fall into odd patchwork world. - Jack L. Chalker's Midnight on the Well of Souls, solved by ~Archangel~
Demoralized policemen fight mythical reptilian beast. - Terry Pratchett's Guards! Guards; solved by Arcanist Lupus.
Their mission: destroy piece of jewelry - J.R.R.Tolkien's Lord of the Rings, solved by Valentine
Martian orphan comes home, becomes Messiah. - Robert A. Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land, solved by Valentine

Sir Lee wrote: > Faerie and team fight horrible monstrosities
Could be a bunch of stories, really, but sounds like one of the Boston Brawls.

Not a Boston Brawl, but it is a Whateley story.

> Demoralized policemen fight mythical reptilian beast.
Guards! Guards!

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

Sir Lee wrote: > Faerie and team fight horrible monstrosities
Could be a bunch of stories, really, but sounds like one of the Boston Brawls.

Not a Boston Brawl, but it is a Whateley story.

I was personally leaning towards "Ill Winds"...

NeoMagus wrote:

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

Sir Lee wrote: > Faerie and team fight horrible monstrosities
Could be a bunch of stories, really, but sounds like one of the Boston Brawls.

Not a Boston Brawl, but it is a Whateley story.

I was personally leaning towards "Ill Winds"...

Yep!

Okay, here's one: "Arrogant patriot picks really bad fight."

Captain Canada and Jamie combat final.

Their mission: destroy piece of jewelry - LotR
Martian orphan comes home, becomes Messiah. - Stranger in a Strange Land


Girl runs away, learns to fight.
Girl's exciting adventures injures her soul.
Paladin quests for the missing king.

Valentine wrote: Girl runs away, learns to fight.
Girl's exciting adventures injures her soul.
Paladin quests for the missing king.

Sheepfarmers Daughter, Divided Allegiance, Oath of Gold, also sold as an omnibus called The deed of Paksenarrion.

This might be a bit hard, it's Australian:

Girl's adventure in past helping family

Sir Lee wrote:
OK, a few of my own:

Travelers fall into odd patchwork world.
Demoralized policemen fight mythical reptilian beast.
Their mission: destroy piece of jewelry
Martian orphan comes home, becomes Messiah.

1 - Jack Chalkers' Well World

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Children use wizardry to slow entropy

Puella Magi Magica Madoka?

Could you cross off the ones that have been answered and provide the answers, perhaps with Solver's name? So people don't have to read the whole thread to avoid redundant answers?

A few more, some very easy, the others... not so much

Two war orphans shaking up Japan - Sanctuary, by Sho Fumimura & Ryoichi Ikegami (unsolved after more than one month)
Post-apocalyptic soldier confronts genocidal computer - Yoshihisa Tagami's "Grey;" solved by ~Archangel~
Boy changes genders when getting wet - Rumiko Takahashi's "Ranma 1/2;" solved by Malady.
Unlucky boy engages alien demon princess - Rumiko Tahahashi's "Urusei Yatsura" aka "Lum"; solved by Dreamer.
Region detaches itself, becomes floating island. - The Stone Raft (A Jangada de Pedra), by Portuguese Nobel laureate José Saramago (unsolved)
Angel and demon attempt defuse apocalypse - Neil Gaiman & Terry Pratchett's "Good Omens;" solved by Phoenix Spiritus.
Boy uses magical disguise, avoids curse - Bek D. Corbin's "Town and Gown;" solved by Quadhouse.
Character instructs author in publishing politics - The Lady and the Tigress, by Bek D. Corbin (unsolved)
Thief stars off-Broadway hit show - Cat-Tales, by Chris Dee (unsolved)
Bullies attack prankster, get spooked back. - Bek's "For Whom the Belle Tolls;" solved by Arcanist Lupus.

Sir Lee wrote: Boy changes genders when getting wet
Unlucky boy engages alien demon princess

Ranma 1/2 and Tenchi Muyo?

Yes and no. Although I don't know enough about "Tenchy Muyo" to tell if it actually fits. But it wasn't what I was thinking about.

Domoviye wrote: Girl gets penis, almost sacrificed, twice.

Didn't see anyone else answer this, Domoviye's own Fate Sucks.

Sir Lee wrote: A few more, some very easy, the others... not so much

Two war orphans shaking up Japan
Post-apocalyptic soldier confronts genocidal computer
Boy changes genders when getting wet - Rumiko Takahashi's Ranma 1/2, solved by Malady.
Unlucky boy engages alien demon princess
Country detaches itself, becomes floating island.

I want to say James Blish's "Cities in Space" series, but that was cities.
There was the Doctor Who Space Whale episode where Britan was floating in space on the back of an intergalactic whale, but that wasn't a book.

Angel and demon attempt defuse apocalypse

Good Omens

Character instructs author in publishing politics

Animal Farm?

Thief stars off-Broadway hit show.

The Producers? (Not a book again though)

Malady wrote:

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Children use wizardry to slow entropy

Puella Magi Magica Madoka?

Actually to me this sounds like the "So you want to be a Wizard" series by Diana ... Nah, can't remember her last name,

Sir Lee wrote: Post-apocalyptic soldier confronts genocidal computer

Terminator?

Bullies attack prankster, get spooked back.

Steven King's Carrie?

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

Malady wrote:

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Children use wizardry to slow entropy

Puella Magi Magica Madoka?

Actually to me this sounds like the "So you want to be a Wizard" series by Diana ... Nah, can't remember her last name,

Yeah, I thought it might be that, 'cause it said "Wizardry", but I didn't know enough about its plot to be sure. Here's the TvTropes for the "So you want to be a Wizard" series. It's by Diane Duane.

Yeah, the Lone Power, 'Fairest and Fallen' creator of Entropy (and therefore death) is the enemy in this series.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

Sir Lee wrote: Post-apocalyptic soldier confronts genocidal computer

Terminator?

Bullies attack prankster, get spooked back.

Steven King's Carrie?

Sounds more like the Jade story. Jade 5 Redefining Jade.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

Domoviye wrote: Girl gets penis, almost sacrificed, twice.

Didn't see anyone else answer this, Domoviye's own Fate Sucks.

Yep.
The last one of mine that still hasn't been guessed at is an early Whateley canon story.

Alright, I've updated the first post with a master list of all solved and unsolved puzzles. If any of these were solved incorrectly (or I missed any correct solutions), speak up and I'll fix them.

Domoviye wrote: Not real girl gets eaten, hilarity

Jade 4: Bottle a Jinn

Aliens invade, Vlad saves the Earth.

David Weber's book Into Darkness or something.
I never read it, I stopped reading Weber about ten years ago except for his earlier work. Way too much Mary Sue and WTF moments.

Umm...why didn't mine get added to the master list?

NeoMagus wrote: Umm...why didn't mine get added to the master list?

What are you talking about? It's totally been there the whole time.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

Sir Lee wrote: Post-apocalyptic soldier confronts genocidal computer

Terminator?

Sir Lee wrote: Country detaches itself, becomes floating island.

I want to say James Blish's "Cities in Space" series, but that was cities.
There was the Doctor Who Space Whale episode where Britan was floating in space on the back of an intergalactic whale, but that wasn't a book.

Sir Lee wrote: Angel and demon attempt defuse apocalypse

Good Omens

Sir Lee wrote: Character instructs author in publishing politics

Animal Farm?

Sir Lee wrote: Thief stars off-Broadway hit show.

The Producers? (Not a book again though)

Sir Lee wrote: Bullies attack prankster, get spooked back.

Steven King's Carrie?

No, HELL no, yes, no, no, no. Note that I'm being a bit liberal with the categories -- Not all of those are books. There might be Internet fiction (I mean, otherwise how could we include Whateley?) and comics (which are books, sort of.) But none are movies or TV series, at least not in their original form -- there might be adaptations, though.
Note that I'm amending one of them -- On reflecting, I figured out that "country" wasn't the appropriate noun; "region" is more like it.
Also, let me clarify that by "publishing politics" I mean "the politics of publishing" rather than "the publishing of politics."

Valentine wrote:

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

Sir Lee wrote: Bullies attack prankster, get spooked back.

Steven King's Carrie?

Sounds more like the Jade story. Jade 5 Redefining Jade.

You are closer, but still no.

I've been playing this one on Facebook. My entry, and favorite book:
Amnesiac alien princess kills gods, apologizes

I'm intriuged by the "Post-apocalyptic soldier confronts genocidal computer" - the genocidal computer element makes me think of HAL 9000 and GLaDOS, but neither protagonist is a soldier.

So here are a handful of submissions, most of which should be fairly easy (to compensate for the quantity?!)

Starting off with the Whateleyverse:

Two girls rescue thralls, destroy base.
Girl grows venomous fangs, loses hair.
Character eaten, takes incredible journey, survives.
One character becomes two times two.
Character forgets to carry the one.
Mage gender-flipped by cursed book.

And a few not:

Attends poetry recital after home destroyed.
Lovers from rival families commit suicide.
Aristocrat meets witches, then kills rivals.
Bloke builds a big floating zoo.

No, I haven't read either of this pair and don't intend to!

We sparkle in sunlight, not fry!
This tale's not written in colour.


As for these, they're behind you! (Oh, no they're not! Oh, yes they are!)

Cursed: minor injury causes lengthy coma.
Bloke sells family cow, avoids Big Bad.
Rags to riches: sisters mutilate feet.

mittfh wrote: I'm intriuged by the "Post-apocalyptic soldier confronts genocidal computer" - the genocidal computer element makes me think of HAL 9000 and GLaDOS, but neither protagonist is a soldier.

Yeah, this one IS a bit obscure... although I have mentioned it now and again. OK, hint: it's a manga, and it is available in English in an official translation.

So here are a handful of submissions, most of which should be fairly easy (to compensate for the quantity?!)

Starting off with the Whateleyverse:

Two girls rescue thralls, destroy base.

The Christmas Crisis with Tennyo and Jinn/Cabbit

Girl grows venomous fangs, loses hair.

Garafena

Character eaten, takes incredible journey, survives.

Tenyo Goes to Hell

One character becomes two times two.

Could be either Jade or Merry.

Character forgets to carry the one.

I looked into the Abyss, and It Winked

Mage gender-flipped by cursed book.

The Braeburn Report

And a few not:

Attends poetry recital after home destroyed.
Lovers from rival families commit suicide.

Romeo and Juliet

Aristocrat meets witches, then kills rivals.

Macbeth

Bloke builds a big floating zoo.

Noah's Ark -- Not really a book, but a passage in one.

No, I haven't read either of this pair and don't intend to!

We sparkle in sunlight, not fry!

Twilight

This tale's not written in colour.

Fifty Shades of Gray

As for these, they're behind you! (Oh, no they're not! Oh, yes they are!)

Cursed: minor injury causes lengthy coma.

Sleeping Beauty

Bloke sells family cow, avoids Big Bad.

Jack and the Beanstalk

Rags to riches: sisters mutilate feet.

Cinderella

Sir Lee wrote:

Two girls rescue thralls, destroy base.

The Christmas Crisis with Tennyo and Jinn/Cabbit

Actually, I'd guess this is Christmas Elves, with Jade and Fey. They did more rescuing.


...Christmas that year was hard on bases, wasn't it?

One character becomes two times two.

Could be either Jade or Merry.

Probably Merry. Two bodies with two personalities each

Yeah, it was ender's game, 6 words makes it hard to be specific XP

Sir Lee wrote:

mittfh wrote: I'm intriuged by the "Post-apocalyptic soldier confronts genocidal computer" - the genocidal computer element makes me think of HAL 9000 and GLaDOS, but neither protagonist is a soldier.

Yeah, this one IS a bit obscure... although I have mentioned it now and again. OK, hint: it's a manga, and it is available in English in an official translation.

Ok it sounds like 'MD Geist', but it could be 'Grey' as well.

Sir Lee got most of them, with Arcanus Lupus providing one.

Two girls rescue thralls, destroy base - Christmas Elves
Girl grows venomous fangs, loses hair - Garafena
Character eaten, takes incredible journey, survives - Tennyo Goes To Hell
One character becomes two times two - Merry (originally one character, develops four personalities, later split into two bodies, each with two personalities)
Character forgets to carry the one - Abyss

Mage gender-flipped by cursed book - I was thinking of a fanfic for this one... "Naked mage converts air to stones" would also be apt...

Attends poetry recital after home destroyed - still pending solving, oh, and this takes place in the opening couple of chapters.

Lovers from rival families commit suicide - Romeo and Juliet
Aristocrat meets witches, then kills rivals - Macbeth (or The Scottish Play if you're superstitious)
Bloke builds a big floating zoo - any one of about a dozen flood myths, notably Noah. While the original's a few chapters in a book, there have undoubtedly been many plays written based on the tale...

We sparkle in sunlight, not fry! - Twilight
This tale's not written in colour - 50 Shades of Grey

Cursed: minor injury causes lengthy coma - Sleeping Beauty
Bloke sells family cow, avoids Big Bad - Jack and the Beanstalk
Rags to riches: sisters mutilate feet - Cinderella (some versions of the tale have the Uglies cutting off parts of their feet to try and fit in the shoe). An alternative (based on a sign you can actually buy): "New shoes can change your life!"

mittfh wrote: Mage gender-flipped by cursed book - I was thinking of a fanfic for this one... "Naked mage converts air to stones" would also be apt...

Would that be Loss, Change and New Beginnings by A-Eadie, with his character Esuna?

~Archangel~ wrote:

Sir Lee wrote:

mittfh wrote: I'm intriuged by the "Post-apocalyptic soldier confronts genocidal computer" - the genocidal computer element makes me think of HAL 9000 and GLaDOS, but neither protagonist is a soldier.

Yeah, this one IS a bit obscure... although I have mentioned it now and again. OK, hint: it's a manga, and it is available in English in an official translation.

Ok it sounds like 'MD Geist', but it could be 'Grey' as well.

Got it in... two: it's "Grey."

A few new ones:

Entire rebellion is just one man
Soldier saves princess with knitting skills
Swordsdragon and boy fight in legion.
Wizard school's 113th student really tries.
Traumatized orphan and fixer make up

Bullies attack prankster, get spooked back

*smacks forehead* Oh. This is For Whom the Belle Tolls.

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Soldier saves princess with knitting skills.

Demolition Man? The knitting soldier sounds fits, but not the princess...

Wait is it the princess who can knit, or the soldier?

Malady wrote:

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Soldier saves princess with knitting skills.

Demolition Man? The knitting soldier sounds fits, but not the princess...

Wait is it the princess who can knit, or the soldier?

Heh. If I said "Soldier saves princesses using knitting skills," would that be clearer? (Yes, it should be princesses, not princess. There is more than one princess rescued.

It is not Demolition Man. I have not heard of Demolition Man.

Arcanus, Demolition man is a movie, Sylvester Stallones, and Sandra Bullock as the heros, Wesley Snipes as the villain.

not a major hit, but ok for a one time watch.

Dawnfyre wrote: Arcanus, Demolition man is a movie, Sylvester Stallones, and Sandra Bullock as the heros, Wesley Snipes as the villain.

not a major hit, but ok for a one time watch.

Oh not the 3 shells again.

Okay, here's one (one of my favorite novels actually):

Misfit trio rebels, throws rocks, wins

a bundle of paper and ink.

Well here is one.

Disabled electrician helps computer run revolution

elrodw wrote: Okay, here's one (one of my favorite novels actually):

Misfit trio rebels, throws rocks, wins

~Archangel~ wrote: Well here is one.

Disabled electrician helps computer run revolution

The answer to BOTH of those is:
Robert A. Heinlein's "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress."

Mister D wrote: a bundle of paper and ink.

Well played, good sir.

NeoMagus wrote:

Mister D wrote: a bundle of paper and ink.

Well played, good sir.

Oh come on, where is the magic? That is so ... clinical.

I mean, couldn't we have something more romantic and uplifting, such as:

Paper and ink, messages to eternity

Oh, you meant the content?

"short traveller, goes far, loses jewellry"

"Alien diplomat, finds map, joins revolution"

"Brave dreamer hugs friend, starts anew"

"Policeman time-travels, learns and inspires."

It's trickier than it looks at first glance.

Chewy...

Mister D wrote:
"Policeman time-travels, learns and inspires."

Night Watch?

Dreamer wrote:

mittfh wrote: Mage gender-flipped by cursed book - I was thinking of a fanfic for this one... "Naked mage converts air to stones" would also be apt...

Would that be Loss, Change and New Beginnings by A-Eadie, with his character Esuna?

Yup! I liked his tales - it's a shame he disappeared from the forums a couple of years ago

Meanwhile: Traumatised orphan and fixer make up = Reflections in an Evil Eye.

A wild guess (which, while it may not be the correct answer, may encourage others...)
Man invents parallel earth travel box = HG Wells' The Time Machine?

Country detaches itself, becomes floating island - this one intrigues me, as there are several floating islands in fiction, but no notable ones (well, notable enough to be worthy of mention in Wikipedia's "Floating islands (fiction)" category) that detached themselves from the mainland (rather than with the intervention of the residents).

Since most of my last lot have been solved, here's a new batch:

A trio from Whateley:
Victory granted via staged crying fit
Rodents gang up to defeat bully
Forcefields vulnerable to essence-enhanced waveform

A quartet from outside:
Four ghosts haunt businessman
Ineffectual criminals reveal they're orphans.
Nautical social conventions overturned? Plot twist!
Japanese heir allegedly executed, then weds.

And a couple of manga (although the animes are probably more famous):
Teenagers fight evil in short skirts.
Two girls fight dark with light.

mittfh wrote: A trio from Whateley:
Victory granted via staged crying fit

Bunny's combat final

Rodents gang up to defeat bully

Aquerrna's combat final

Forcefields vulnerable to essence-enhanced waveform

A quartet from outside:
Four ghosts haunt businessman

A Christmas Carol

Ineffectual criminals reveal they're orphans.

Pirates of Penzances?

Nautical social conventions overturned? Plot twist!

HMS Pinafore?

Japanese heir allegedly executed, then weds.

The Mikardo?

And a couple of manga (although the animes are probably more famous):
Teenagers fight evil in short skirts.

LOL, all of them? But, oh Sailor Moon as the most famous.

Two girls fight dark with light.

Mister D wrote: "short traveller, goes far, loses jewellry"

Another spin at "Lord of the Rings"?

mittfh wrote: Country detaches itself, becomes floating island - this one intrigues me, as there are several floating islands in fiction, but no notable ones (well, notable enough to be worthy of mention in Wikipedia's "Floating islands (fiction)" category) that detached themselves from the mainland (rather than with the intervention of the residents).

Oh, it's notable all right. Really high profile. But this is totally the wrong crowd for this particular book...
Hint: Ayla or Jadis would figure it in... half a second.

mittfh wrote: Forcefields vulnerable to essence-enhanced waveform

Fey's combat final.

Sir Lee wrote:

mittfh wrote: Country detaches itself, becomes floating island - this one intrigues me, as there are several floating islands in fiction, but no notable ones (well, notable enough to be worthy of mention in Wikipedia's "Floating islands (fiction)" category) that detached themselves from the mainland (rather than with the intervention of the residents).

Oh, it's notable all right. Really high profile. But this is totally the wrong crowd for this particular book...
Hint: Ayla or Jadis would figure it in... half a second.

Um, what's that word, means absolute paradise ... Utopia?

Villain seals suit, saves the world.

Here's one;

Alien drug dealers find soldiers useful

Valentine wrote: Villain seals suit, saves the world.

Did you mean 'steals' instead of 'seals'?

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

Sir Lee wrote:

mittfh wrote: Country detaches itself, becomes floating island - this one intrigues me, as there are several floating islands in fiction, but no notable ones (well, notable enough to be worthy of mention in Wikipedia's "Floating islands (fiction)" category) that detached themselves from the mainland (rather than with the intervention of the residents).

Oh, it's notable all right. Really high profile. But this is totally the wrong crowd for this particular book...
Hint: Ayla or Jadis would figure it in... half a second.

Um, what's that word, means absolute paradise ... Utopia?

Also now that I think of it, if it's just a region, Atom Boy / Astro Boy.

Uh, no. The reason I changed from "country" to "region" is that I had forgotten that it was in fact *two* countries that detached (together) from the continent.

And, as I mentioned, this is the wrong crowd for this book. So... none of the usual suspects: comics, manga, anime, pulps... I gave a big hint, look at the sort of books Ayla and Jadis would read.

Nope, I meant seals.

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Soldier saves princess with knitting skills

Princess of the Midnight Ball by Jessica Day George?

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Swordsdragon and boy fight in legion.

The Pit Dragon Chronicles by Jane Yolen?

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Wizard school's 113th student really tries.

"Wizard's School" by Jane Yolan

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

mittfh wrote: A trio from Whateley:
Victory granted via staged crying fit

Bunny's combat final

Rodents gang up to defeat bully

Aquerrna's combat final

Yup - so what about the third?

mittfh wrote: Forcefields vulnerable to essence-enhanced waveform

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

mittfh wrote: A quartet from outside:
Four ghosts haunt businessman

A Christmas Carol

Ineffectual criminals reveal they're orphans.

Pirates of Penzance?

Nautical social conventions overturned? Plot twist!

HMS Pinafore?

Japanese heir allegedly executed, then weds.

The Mikardo?

Yup - Christmas Carol plus a G&S trio.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

mittfh wrote: And a couple of manga (although the animes are probably more famous):
Teenagers fight evil in short skirts.

LOL, all of them? But, oh Sailor Moon as the most famous.

Yes, while it could apply to many animes/mangas, Usagi / Moon started the trend (although technically Minako / V / Venus got there first) - something noticed by the animators, who lampshaded it with a villain (one of many who hung around far longer than in the manga): "Hey, have you ever thought it was embarrassing to jump around in such a short skirt?"

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

mittfh wrote: Two girls fight dark with light.

Another long-running anime / manga with oodles of spin-offs...

Not too great at guessing these myself, as most of them are beyond my ken. For what it's worth though, here is my input.

"Grieving almost-priestess, tenacious ruling-lady."

The clue was not needed, one of my sister's favourite books: Raymond E. Fiest's "Daughter of the Empire"

mittfh wrote:
Yup - so what about the third?

mittfh wrote: Forcefields vulnerable to essence-enhanced waveform

Eldritch's combat run against Lancer and Hippolyta? Call the Thunder 6 I think.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: The clue was not needed, one of my sister's favourite books: Raymond E. Fiest's "Daughter of the Empire"

We have a winner! That trilogy is among my favourite novels, too.

~Archangel~ wrote:

mittfh wrote:
Yup - so what about the third?

mittfh wrote: Forcefields vulnerable to essence-enhanced waveform

Eldritch's combat run against Lancer and Hippolyta? Call the Thunder 6 I think.

Didn't I answer that a few messages ago? It's Fey's Combat Final, on Call the Thunder 6.

Archangel and Sir Lee got two of them. (Tips hat in their general direction.)

How about this one?

Enhanced artificialpsychopath foils interplanetary plot.

Mister D wrote: Enhanced artificialpsychopath foils interplanetary plot.

Tennyo's Easter.

I have a few more.

"Rope-weaver finds friend among serpents."

"Dragons pressured into undeath amidst rage."

"Boy unwittingly strikes blow against archenemy."

"Girl escapes parents, chases friend north."

"Trapped souls freed and Limbo abolished."

Ametros wrote: "Dragons pressured into undeath amidst rage."

Uh... that seems a bit like "Guards! Guards!". But not quite, so I'm probably wrong.

"Boy unwittingly strikes blow against archenemy."

Hey, Harry Potter did that when he was what, one year old?

"Girl escapes parents, chases friend north."

Note that I haven't even seen the movie, but... "Frozen?"

Sir Lee wrote:

Ametros wrote: "Girl escapes parents, chases friend north."

Note that I haven't even seen the movie, but... "Frozen?"

Sounds more like Golden Compass

Sir Lee wrote:

Ametros wrote: "Dragons pressured into undeath amidst rage."

Uh... that seems a bit like "Guards! Guards!". But not quite, so I'm probably wrong.

Nope.

"Boy unwittingly strikes blow against archenemy."

Hey, Harry Potter did that when he was what, one year old?

Good enough. I specifically had Chamber of Secrets in mind.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Sounds more like Golden Compass

Yup. The Golden Compass/The Northern Lights.

Malady wrote:

Mister D wrote: Enhanced artificialpsychopath foils interplanetary plot.

Tennyo's Easter.

No. It isn't a Whateley story.

Originally a stand-alone sci-fi novel that became first of a trilogy.

Mister D wrote: Archangel and Sir Lee got two of them. (Tips hat in their general direction.)

How about this one?

Enhanced artificialpsychopath foils interplanetary plot.

2001

Mister D wrote: Archangel and Sir Lee got two of them. (Tips hat in their general direction.)

How about this one?

Enhanced artificialpsychopath foils interplanetary plot.

Stephen R. Donaldson's Gap Cycle?

Sir Lee wrote: Boy uses magical disguise, avoids curse

Could that be Bek's "Town and Gown"




Fit physicist explodes nuke, saves world "Into the Looking Glass": solved by Phoenix Spiritus.

God's warrior saves friend, national prayer

Quadhouse wrote:

Sir Lee wrote: Boy uses magical disguise, avoids curse

Could that be Bek's "Town and Gown"

Yep, you got it.

I still have five open in my list. One is very hard, one is medium-hard, and the other three shouldn't be any more difficult than the one above.

Enhanced artificialpsychopath foils interplanetary plot.

Hmmm... I think it could be either "Ender's Game" or "The Stars My Destination"

Sir Lee wrote:

Quadhouse wrote:
Enhanced artificialpsychopath foils interplanetary plot.

Hmmm... I think it could be either "Ender's Game" or "The Stars My Destination"

Don't know, I keep thinking of 'The Caves of Steel' with Elijah Baley and R. Daneel Olivaw

But that's dating it some.

FuzzyBoots wrote:

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Soldier saves princess with knitting skills

Princess of the Midnight Ball by Jessica Day George?

Yep!

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Swordsdragon and boy fight in legion.

The Pit Dragon Chronicles by Jane Yolen?

No. Those books do include dragons and boys, but (to my knowledge, I only read the first one) the dragons don't wield swords, or fight in legions.

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Wizard school's 113th student really tries.

"Wizard's School" by Jane Yolan

The book's name is Wizard's Hall, but you are correct.

Ametros wrote: "Trapped souls freed and Limbo abolished."

This sounds like The Amber Spyglass


And I'm finally caught up with updating the first post. As always, if you see one listed that's been solved that I missed, or one that's been solved incorrectly, let me know.

Necromancer girl searches for her dad.

Abhorsen

Kettlekorn wrote:

Necromancer girl searches for her dad.

Abhorsen

I can't believe I missed that one! I love those books!

(Although to be completely accurate, the book described is Sabriel. Abhorsen was the last book)

Swordsdragon and boy fight in legion.

Pandora's Legion?

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

Ametros wrote: "Trapped souls freed and Limbo abolished."

This sounds like The Amber Spyglass

'Tis indeed.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Swordsdragon and boy fight in legion.

Pandora's Legion?

Nope.

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Swordsdragon and boy fight in legion.

Pandora's Legion?

Nope.

It's on the tip of my tongue, there are dragon boys who help take care of sentient humanoid dragons fighting against threats from a godlike entity who wants to destroy worlds in a fantasy world.

Heres one for non-Whateley.
Nazi SS fight crocodile space locusts.

Domoviye wrote: Heres one for non-Whateley.
Nazi SS fight crocodile space locusts.

Watch on the Rhine by John Ringo and Tom Kratman

Yep.

Domoviye wrote:

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Swordsdragon and boy fight in legion.

Pandora's Legion?

Nope.

It's on the tip of my tongue, there are dragon boys who help take care of sentient humanoid dragons fighting against threats from a godlike entity who wants to destroy worlds in a fantasy world.

That sounds about right, although the godlike entity doesn't show up until the last couple books. The first couple books are about slightly more mundane (although still magical) threats.

Do you remember the main dragon's most notable feature?

He could use a sword with his tail. And he and his boy helped save a wild dragon who had his wings destroyed by the 'orcs' and 'trolls' used by the enemy.
His name was Basil?

Valentine wrote: Villain seals suit, saves the world.

Given this site, I am surprised no one has guessed this one yet.

Domoviye wrote: He could use a sword with his tail. And he and his boy helped save a wild dragon who had his wings destroyed by the 'orcs' and 'trolls' used by the enemy.
His name was Basil?

Basil Broketail?

And for some reason 'The dragon and his Boy' is coming to mind.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

Domoviye wrote: He could use a sword with his tail. And he and his boy helped save a wild dragon who had his wings destroyed by the 'orcs' and 'trolls' used by the enemy.
His name was Basil?

Basil Broketail?

And for some reason 'The dragon and his Boy' is coming to mind.

OK I cheated and did a search, "Basil Broketail" by Christopher Rowley is the book.

"Entire rebellion is just one man"

OK, I know this book, but I'm having a mental block and can't remember its title or author, so I'll add clues to help someone else.
Science fiction book, relatively short, beginning of a series, the main protagonist is the proprietor of a …

Oh, don't worry, I remember it now "The man who never missed" and a search turns up the author as Steve Perry.

"Character instructs author in publishing politics"
Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy?

"Fit physicist explodes nuke, saves world"
Hmm, I have two guesses, "Into the Looking Glass" would be my first one, "Warp Speed" my second, though technically while the effects where similar, it wasn't a nuclear bomb in the second one, and it exploded cause he couldn't defuse it, but he was a very fit physicist

"Dragons pressured into undeath amidst rage."

Hmm, throwing out a weird one here, "Shadow Star" by Chris Claremont, third of his "Shadow Moon" series, sequels to the movie "Willow".

"Alien drug dealers find soldiers useful"

Janissaries, Jerry Pournelle.

Or "Pandora's Legion", which has similar plot, but Roman Legions and not US army, and the "drugs" lend itself more to Janissaries.

NIce try but no cigar.

I enjoyed reading Donaldson's interpretation of the Norse mythos.

Mister D wrote: NIce try but no cigar.

I enjoyed reading Donaldson's interpretation of the Norse mythos.

I assume that's for my guess of Stephen R. Donaldson's Gap Cycle for "Enhanced artificialpsychopath foils interplanetary plot"?

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: "Character instructs author in publishing politics"
Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy?

"Fit physicist explodes nuke, saves world"
Hmm, I have two guesses, "Into the Looking Glass" would be my first one, "Warp Speed" my second, though technically while the effects where similar, it wasn't a nuclear bomb in the second one, and it exploded cause he couldn't defuse it, but he was a very fit physicist

"Into the Looking Glass" was the book I was thinking of.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: "Alien drug dealers find soldiers useful"

Janissaries, Jerry Pournelle.

Or "Pandora's Legion", which has similar plot, but Roman Legions and not US army, and the "drugs" lend itself more to Janissaries.

Janissaries is correct.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

Mister D wrote: NIce try but no cigar.

I enjoyed reading Donaldson's interpretation of the Norse mythos.

I assume that's for my guess of Stephen R. Donaldson's Gap Cycle for "Enhanced artificialpsychopath foils interplanetary plot"?

Yes.

If it were "interstellar", then i could see it, but still no.

I'm annoyed that no-one has guessed it yet, as it's an excellent book.

Domoviye wrote: He could use a sword with his tail. And he and his boy helped save a wild dragon who had his wings destroyed by the 'orcs' and 'trolls' used by the enemy.
His name was Basil?

Yep! His name's actually Bazil, but you are exactly correct!

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: "Entire rebellion is just one man"

OK, I know this book, but I'm having a mental block and can't remember its title or author, so I'll add clues to help someone else.
Science fiction book, relatively short, beginning of a series, the main protagonist is the proprietor of a …

Oh, don't worry, I remember it now "The man who never missed" and a search turns up the author as Steve Perry.

Correct! The series gets a nod in a couple of the Chou stories.

Valentine wrote: Villain seals suit, saves the world.

Confessions of a D-List Supervillain

It's not actually about angry fruit.

A boy and his tool survive.

Scientists accidentally make gun control interesting.

Giant trees around a neutron star.

Syphilitic vagabond somehow escapes improbable scenarios.

Forgery, demonology, and rabid Dumas fans.

Kettlekorn wrote: A boy and his tool survive.

Hatchet?

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

Kettlekorn wrote: A boy and his tool survive.

Hatchet?

Yup.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: "Dragons pressured into undeath amidst rage."

Hmm, throwing out a weird one here, "Shadow Star" by Chris Claremont, third of his "Shadow Moon" series, sequels to the movie "Willow".

That would be a "no". I'm mildly surprised that a few of mine haven't been guessed yet as they're at least tangentially related to something rather well-known, I'd think.

Kettlekorn wrote: It's not actually about angry fruit.

Attack of the Killer Tomatoes?

Kettlekorn wrote: Giant trees around a neutron star.

Larry Niven's "The Integral Trees"

Yeah, it was Sabriel

Sir Lee wrote:

Kettlekorn wrote: It's not actually about angry fruit.

Attack of the Killer Tomatoes?

Nope.

Sir Lee wrote:

Kettlekorn wrote: Giant trees around a neutron star.

Larry Niven's "The Integral Trees"

Yes.

Kettlekorn wrote:

Valentine wrote: Villain seals suit, saves the world.

Confessions of a D-List Supervillain

Yes.

Kettlekorn wrote:
It's not actually about angry fruit.

The Grapes of Wrath



Forgery, demonology, and rabid Dumas fans

The Da Vinchi Code.

Valentine wrote:

Kettlekorn wrote:

Valentine wrote: Villain seals suit, saves the world.

I thought this was The Daniel Harwood Chronicles. A Whateley Fan fiction

Confessions of a D-List Supervillain

Yes.

Corvacks wrote:

Kettlekorn wrote:
It's not actually about angry fruit.

The Grapes of Wrath

Yep.

Corvacks wrote:

Kettlekorn wrote: Forgery, demonology, and rabid Dumas fans

The Da Vinchi Code.

Nope.

Jolly visitor comes one night.

Mutant freak can't join the games.

Best friend, just add magic hat

Most depressing Christmas story EVER!!!!

Ghosts terrorize honest businessman one night

Dark rises, six turn it back
Girl and her god save city
Girl gets magical horse and empathy
Blue collar wizard destroys buildings frequently
Children find coin, grants partial wishes
Pregnant dragon gets addicted to chocolate

Domoviye wrote: Jolly visitor comes one night.
Mutant freak can't join the games.
Best friend, just add magic hat
Most depressing Christmas story EVER!!!!
Ghosts terrorize honest businessman one night

A visit from Saint Nicholas
Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer
???
The Little Match Girl?
A Christmas Carol

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Dark rises, six turn it back
Girl and her god save city
Girl gets magical horse and empathy
Blue collar wizard destroys buildings frequently
Children find coin, grants partial wishes
Pregnant dragon gets addicted to chocolate

Domoviye wrote: Jolly visitor comes one night.
Mutant freak can't join the games.
Best friend, just add magic hat
Most depressing Christmas story EVER!!!!
Ghosts terrorize honest businessman one night

A visit from Saint Nicholas
Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer
???
The Little Match Girl?
A Christmas Carol

Frosty the Snowman for Best friend, just add magic hat

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

Domoviye wrote: Jolly visitor comes one night.
Mutant freak can't join the games.
Best friend, just add magic hat
Most depressing Christmas story EVER!!!!
Ghosts terrorize honest businessman one night

A visit from Saint Nicholas
Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer
???
The Little Match Girl?
A Christmas Carol

Most of them are right.
The first one is close but not the one I'm thinking of, or at least not by that name.

And Ib12US is right about Frosty the Snowman.

Domoviye wrote:

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

Domoviye wrote: Jolly visitor comes one night.
Mutant freak can't join the games.
Best friend, just add magic hat
Most depressing Christmas story EVER!!!!
Ghosts terrorize honest businessman one night

A visit from Saint Nicholas
Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer
???
The Little Match Girl?
A Christmas Carol

Most of them are right.
The first one is close but not the one I'm thinking of, or at least not by that name.

And Ib12US is right about Frosty the Snowman.

yeah I was thinking Santa Claus is Coming to Town. But who am I to change ones views.

AND ITS IBI OR I GET THE SHEARS OUT!

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Dark rises, six turn it back
The Dark Is Rising Sequence by Susan Cooper

Girl and her god save city
???

Girl gets magical horse and empathy
Arrows of the Queen by Mercedes Lackey

Blue collar wizard destroys buildings frequently
The Dresden Files by Jim Butcher

Children find coin, grants partial wishes
The Queen's Nose

Pregnant dragon gets addicted to chocolate
???

Domoviye wrote: Jolly visitor comes one night.
Mutant freak can't join the games.

Best friend, just add magic hat
Mr Ben?

Most depressing Christmas story EVER!!!!
Ghosts terrorize honest businessman one night

A visit from Saint Nicholas
Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer
???
The Little Match Girl?
A Christmas Carol

Corvacks wrote:

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Dark rises, six turn it back

The Dark Is Rising Sequence by Susan Cooper

Yes

Girl gets magical horse and empathy

Arrows of the Queen by Mercedes Lackey

Yes

Blue collar wizard destroys buildings frequently

The Dresden Files by Jim Butcher

Yes

Children find coin, grants partial wishes

The Queen's Nose

No


Also, your habit of writing inside of quotes is really confusing to read.

Sorry about that.

It may have been called something different in the U.S.

Sometimes book titles change between countries.

Corvacks wrote: Sorry about that.

It may have been called something different in the U.S.

Sometimes book titles change between countries.

not this one. I looked it up, and it's a different book. As near as I can tell, the coin in the Queen's Nose grants full wishes, not partial ones like the one I was thinking of.

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Girl and her god save city

Shardik?

Mister D wrote:

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Girl and her god save city

Shardik?

Nope!

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

Mister D wrote:

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Girl and her god save city

Shardik?

Nope!

I was thinking Joan of Arc 'Maid of Orleans', but you are probably wanting something more fictional.

Domoviye wrote:

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

Domoviye wrote: Jolly visitor comes one night

Most of them are right.
The first one is close but not the one I'm thinking of, or at least not by that name.

The Night Before Christmas

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

Domoviye wrote:

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

Domoviye wrote: Jolly visitor comes one night

Most of them are right.
The first one is close but not the one I'm thinking of, or at least not by that name.

The Night Before Christmas

Yep.

Kettlekorn wrote: Scientists accidentally make gun control interesting.

"The Trigger" by Arthur C. Clarke and Michael P. Kube-McDowell.

Not so much a book, but a series.
-Big Tanks protect humanity.

-Why John Ringo? Why?

-Mary Sue blows up many starships.

-Revengel spirit + super soldier kill pirates

Domoviye wrote: Not so much a book, but a series.
-Big Tanks protect humanity.

-Why John Ringo? Why?

-Mary Sue blows up many starships.

-Revengel spirit + super soldier kill pirates

1 - Bolo

3 - Honor Harrington

4- In Fury Born

Domoviye wrote: Not so much a book, but a series.
-Big Tanks protect humanity.

Bolo!

-Why John Ringo? Why?

Seriously? At least give us some hint for such a prolific author.

-Mary Sue blows up many starships.

So, with a 'Mary Sue' I'm assuming femal protagonists, so "Hour of the Hoard' is out, with the Baen Books theme I'm going with the 'Honor Harrington' series

-Revengel spirit + super soldier kill pirates

Let me just check my bookshelf ... Path of the Fury, didn't we already have this one?

~Archangel~ wrote:

Domoviye wrote: Not so much a book, but a series.
-Big Tanks protect humanity.

-Why John Ringo? Why?

-Mary Sue blows up many starships.

-Revengel spirit + super soldier kill pirates

1 - Bolo

3 - Honor Harrington

4- In Fury Born

Yes to all of this.
Ok, with #2, it's actually a pretty big clue. If no one can figure it out by tomorrow night I'll give another six words for the series. As a hint, it's Ringo's personal shame that became hugely popular and he's not sure why.

~Archangel~ wrote:

Domoviye wrote: Not so much a book, but a series.
-Big Tanks protect humanity.

-Why John Ringo? Why?

-Mary Sue blows up many starships.

-Revengel spirit + super soldier kill pirates

1 - Bolo

3 - Honor Harrington

4- In Fury Born

For 3 I was going to say, any David Weber... (OK it hasn't happened yet in his fantasy series, but I am expecting it.)

He doesn't always do it. Sometimes he uses vampires and Marty Stu.

Domoviye wrote:

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

Domoviye wrote:

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

Domoviye wrote: Jolly visitor comes one night

Most of them are right.
The first one is close but not the one I'm thinking of, or at least not by that name.

The Night Before Christmas

Yep.

Yeah, "A Visit From St. Nicholas" is the official title of The Night Before Christmas.

I did not know that.

I assumed the poem had another title as "T'was the night before Christmas..." Is the opening line of the poem, but I hadn't looked it up.

Dang if thats not right. I even have the book out for decoration. *smacks head in shame*

Domoviye wrote:

~Archangel~ wrote:

Domoviye wrote: Not so much a book, but a series.
-Big Tanks protect humanity.

-Why John Ringo? Why?

-Mary Sue blows up many starships.

-Revengel spirit + super soldier kill pirates

1 - Bolo

3 - Honor Harrington

4- In Fury Born

Yes to all of this.
Ok, with #2, it's actually a pretty big clue. If no one can figure it out by tomorrow night I'll give another six words for the series. As a hint, it's Ringo's personal shame that became hugely popular and he's not sure why.

Ok that might be A Paladin of Ghosts and Shadows, I think. Ok more of a WAG.

Yep. John Ringo himself had or supported a campaign to raise money for a charity where they sold shirts saying 'Why John Ringo, why?'
And he'd originally made the first story as a personal fetish story, never planning on letting people see it, until he let slip that he had it. Enough fans begged him to post it, that he released one chapter. His publishers and fans demanded the rest,

Ok here is one;

Stripper with PhD saves world maybe

FuzzyBoots wrote:

Kettlekorn wrote: Scientists accidentally make gun control interesting.

"The Trigger" by Arthur C. Clarke and Michael P. Kube-McDowell.

Yup!

Let's clue up the two unsolved ones I set:

Attends poetry recital after home destroyed.
* Clue: The poetry is officially very bad (according to the narrator).

Two girls fight dark with light.
* Note: This one's based entirely on the Wiki article. The franchise appears to be even larger than that of the character named after the Rabbit in the Moon.
* Clue: Currently there are 12 anime series (13th in production), 12 animated films based on the series, another 8 animated films, numerous musicals, 15 video games, 7 educational games and an arcade game.

Meanwhile, most of this lot shouldn't be much trouble to identify:

A bunch by the same author:
(Novel) Kidnapped author forced to resurrect character
(Novel) Author avatar goes on killing spree
(Novel) Telekinetic girl rager incident at school
(Novel) Zombie-ish virus spread by phone calls
(Novel) Caveat emptor adequately describes this shop
(Novelette) Patient prisoner's escape masked by poster

Other stuff:
(Novel) Gentleman circumnavigates globe in record time | (Animation) Lion circumnavigates globe in record time
(Novel) Apprentice soldier joins experienced soldier trio | (Animation) Anthropomorphised dog joins experienced soldier trio

(Book / Animation) Defective toy given life and superpowers
(Brit Comic) Parodic superhero transforms by eating fruit
(Brit Comic) Schoolboy and his dog cause trouble
(Brit Comic) Strength boosted by eating bovine pastries

(Opera) Two couples endure trials, avoid suicide
(Ballet) Cursed princess's curse broken by suicide pact
(Instrumental) Russian army, outnumbered, defeats French forces
(Poem) Magic causes broom to multiply exponentially

More a series (and franchise) than a single book: Seventh employee mixes business and pleasure

mittfh wrote: Let's clue up the two unsolved ones I set:

Attends poetry recital after home destroyed.
* Clue: The poetry is officially very bad (according to the narrator).

Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

mittfh wrote: Meanwhile, most of this lot shouldn't be much trouble to identify:

A bunch by the same author:
(Novel) Kidnapped author forced to resurrect character
(Novel) Author avatar goes on killing spree
(Novel) Telekinetic girl rager incident at school
(Novel) Zombie-ish virus spread by phone calls
(Novel) Caveat emptor adequately describes this shop
(Novelette) Patient prisoner's escape masked by poster

Misery

Carrie
Cell
Needful Things

mittfh wrote: Other stuff:
(Novel) Gentleman circumnavigates globe in record time | (Animation) Lion circumnavigates globe in record time
(Novel) Apprentice soldier joins experienced soldier trio | (Animation) Anthropomorphised dog joins experienced soldier trio

Around the World in 80 Days

I guess I'll leave a hint for my remaining two, so as to help you all along.

To reiterate, these are the lines:
Rope-weaver finds friend among serpents.
Dragons pressured into undeath amidst rage.

Delve the dungeons but 'ware the dragons.

Courtesy of Archangel...

Attends poetry recital after home destroyed --> Yup, it's H2G2.

(Novel) Kidnapped author forced to resurrect character --> Misery
(Novel) Author avatar goes on killing spree --> Unsolved
(Novel) Telekinetic girl rager incident at school --> Carrie
(Novel) Zombie-ish virus spread by phone calls --> Cell
(Novel) Caveat emptor adequately describes this shop -->Needful Things
(Novelette) Patient prisoner's escape masked by poster --> Unsolved

(Novel) Gentleman circumnavigates globe in record time --> Around The World In 80 Days

You may have sussed that the animation is an adaptation - but what's the adaptation called?
Note that most of the remainder are rather Brit/EU centric and may not have travelled over the Atlantic...

(Book / Animation) Defective toy given life and superpowers
Super Ted

(Brit Comic) Parodic superhero transforms by eating fruit
Banana Man

(Instrumental) Russian army, outnumbered, defeats French forces
1812 Overture