Question Scoundrel
- Yolandria
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- mhalpern
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- DanZilla
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- Malady
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And, at the beginning, "A human? Survived the Sundering?"
And this'll be needed to move to "Library and Independent Fiction"...
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But enough of that.
Interesting world! Post-Apocalypse, humans are coming back...
The Empresses are actually pretty cool, standing up to the "demon" and stuff...
I bet that deal he made with the Empress is gonna be important...
Maybe at some point the Younger will be hosting the Demon instead of the Older...
- Dreamer
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Below is a stream of conscious commentary I type up as I read the story. There will be details from the story included in it. If you have not read the story yet and don't wish to have details of it spoiled, read no further.
Extra note: This commentary has some things based on the fact it was in 2nd Gen Stories when I started reading it and assumed something weird was going on, like Kristin's fantasy game [can't think of name right now] and some humans got trapped inside, with days being several years for those inside.
Scoundrel comments
The Catastrophe, I wonder if he is referring to the Sundering, sure seems like it. Taunting someone he calls Darnell while in what sounds like a wizard's duel, a wave of fire and hammer of force sure sound like spells. Oh, not a duel, fight of life and death. Darnell is actually Darg, no wonder it is such a good taunt in a duel. Samael goes to strikes down Darg but Darg's generals strike Samael in the back despite a truce, good grief.
A blast of fire to drive back the generals, but struck in the back of the head by Darg's hammer, yikes. A library contained within a gem, impressive magic. A soul gem to survive the fight no matter what and Darg recognizes it, that is some dangerous magic Samael is messing with. And tries to take over Darg's body but fails before the gem's charge ran out, harsh limitation. Planning on taking Darg's body or another's and keep going until he kills him, Samael is definitely twisted. A seal for the gem which Darg got from Mara, someone who Samael knows, that ends that plan for now.
Trying to map his prison, but Darg keeps refreshing the seal, wonder if Samael can go mad in that gem from extended isolation.
The seal is gone and he made a companion named Wilson while in there, nice Cast Away reference. He took over the body of Princess Grahf, too good. Tries to bluff the old wizard who was with the princess and fails, surrounded by guards with swords drawn now.
Interesting, how long was he in that gem?"I am Archmage Ferahn, court wizard of the Hammer empire and chief advisor to her highness, the Princess Almin Grahf, heir to the Hammer throne whose body you now hold."
FIgures Darg is the Hammer empire's founder and Princess Grahf's ancestor. Trapped for centuries, ouch. 3 thousand years if not longer, how did Samael not go insane in there?
I would hate to try and go through those records. Archbishop Dunce the eleventh, bwahahaha, talk about poor naming choice.I could tell he knew that much. "Perhaps we have made a mistake. We have long been told the legend of the great guardian demon Samael, who could be called upon by the royal family during times of great calamity. In truth however, there have been times when the eternal empire's history and lineage has become... complicated."
Given a name as an insult and thinks of it as an honor, oh brother. I wonder what these 'disgusting and aberrant' creatures are. The walls for the castle and the city, what kind of nightmares lurk outside the walls of cities in this world?"My name was given to the first Dunce thousands of years ago by the great Emporer Darg himself! It has been passed down among the rolls for longer than the empire has existed! Being considered qualified enough to take the name is a great honor! The greatest honor!"
Okay, that army definitely fits the disgusting and aberrant creatures bill, especially the tentacle monsters. Several mages and several of the wise among their number, oh boy. Hhm, curious if Samael's powers have weakened enough only those of the direct bloodline can be possessed by him.The army was as endless as the Archmage had described, and filled with a dark rendition of Tolkien; there were orcs and goblins and giant lizards and tentacle monsters and dragons in the skies. Mutants all of course, the expression of things that were just beginning to exist when I strode the Earth.
A week's freedom to learn should have bargained him down to 4 days. A geas to seal the deal, interesting.
Dang, a joke like that lost to the ages. Tries to get them to go home with some power in his voice, more arrows, a fireball and lightning bolt for his trouble, seesh. More power in the voice and ask them one final time to go home."Quick then, to the walls. The natives look to be getting restless."
"...Natives?"
I wonder who this might be.She wore her black hair short and bore two scars, one on her forehead and one on her cheek, both standing out proudly from dusky skin. She looked fit enough and strong enough to break the Dunce in half, and wore a sword that was more than half cleaver.
Says he is Samael and they laugh, so he materializes a meteor over them, dang. And the woman thinks it is just an illusion, this won't end well for them at this rate. And many of them die, but the woman survived somehow avoiding the worst of it but still injured. And the man who shows up teleports out with her, wonder how soon they will attempt to attack again. Archmage Ferahn and Archbishop Dunce had to combine their magic to shield them from the effects of the meteor dropping from the sky, eep.
Okay, that is a very scary thought. And he wants beer after all that, seems somethings never change."About that... I thought you said you were weak, compared to your youth." Dunce half asked.
I showed the man teeth. "I am.I used something just about any of us would have been able to dispel with a simple thought. It seems the various races have lost much in the time I've been imprisoned."
Chucks a rock at it, a meteor is far from a simple rock. A lawn chair, okay, the more Samael talks the more I think the Catastrophe which happened wasn't the Sundering, is this some future where humanity was sent back to medieval level by something?"What? Build a proper wall and it won't fall over when someone chucks a rock at it."
Dressed hiked up Princess Grahf's body and Dunce is flustered when Samael pulls up some more. Introduce these people to microbrews, what, does the Catastrophe happen in the later 21st century?
Whoa, we know that the army was attacking the city and castle, but we don't have all the details. Are the humans the good guys in all this or just conquerors who see all lands as theirs by right?"The job is not complete. They need to be scoured from our lands and the three kingdoms of man retaken." The man turned and glared at his buddy, who instantly stopped trying to get a drink and flowed into ramrod straight attention.
Four chairs carried up there while in full plate, that soldier is strong and has endurance. Bargaining about the deal, this is going to bite the Archmage in the end at this rate. History of the empire, abridged version, wonder how much Samael can learn from this? The Archmage has an apprentice named Maf, huh.
Being different doesn't make them demons, still beings of flesh and blood. I still wonder why this massive army showed up in the first place."Our army once stood hundreds of thousands strong. While no match for the demons in numbers, we boasted the best, most advanced army of the world. However the last Emperor, may he rest in peace, led several forays to help the other kingdoms once the demons invaded. Even with the extra men and best equipment, one by one the kingdoms fell; and we were alone and our army was a ghost of itself."
Maf is definitely a geek, still wondering what brought the world to this state. All those books are the abridged history of the Hammer Empire, good grief. And Maf faints at seeing the carnage in the field below, poor kid.Maf didn't look a day over twelve even though he was big enough to be an adult, wore a dingy brown bathrobe that was a shade lighter than his roughly cut muddy brown hair, and had a gold symbol on a chain that an old rapper would envy. He wasn't wearing shoes, which seemed like a poor life choice, but who was I to judge?
Cletus with ten thousand hand-picked warriors halted the army for four days, against an army this size that is impressive. 40 years ago, headed back after killing Cletus, what gives. Almost like someone is guiding them in a long-term plan. 'Belal, the King of Darkness', yikes, should have consulted about names first.
Figures they figured out a way to use the geas to control Samael."And you shall have that week," He responded smoothly. "But when the Empress wills it, not simply as you please. Do you think me a fool?"
The Princess Grahf apologizing to Samael how he was treated after his actions. Negotiate for Samael's help to save the people outside the city, interesting. Discuss laws of what Samael can do with her body, well I hope she is a good negotiator.
All very reasonable rules, especially that last one but he just has to tease Princess Grahf about it."That you have an escort while in my body, and you not attempt to leave them. That you not attempt to kill that escort, for any reason. That you listen to the escort's advice when it is offered, and lastly... thatyounothavecarnalrelationsinmybody."
Freedom from the prison, if they break this deal he is going to be enraged. They actually agreed to those terms, talk about truly desperate. A handshake with the princess to bind the deal, simple and clean. And yet not, darn it, Samael. He thinks of Rome in the past tense, more and more hints this is a post-apocalypse future.
Such references long dead, yikes."Oh hey, it's frumpy and pedo. How you both doing?"
"You are no doubt aware that your references and insults are long dead, yes?"
They can create a body for him, magic may not be as powerful as three thousand years ago but still impressive. Archbishop actually going to try to attack Samael while he is in Princess Grahf's body, idiot. The runes flaring whenever Samael tells the truth, interesting part of the geas. Just how loopholes are in the geas?
Archmage offering up sacrifices of their choosing if it is required, whoa, didn't see him saying that. Hhm, can the empress communicate through the gem? Well, they did an okay job cleaning up but why do I feel they missed a step or two and something could arise from that mess?
The Archmage made a mistake, never say to someone like Samael nothing they do can surprise you anymore. A shield wall with spears, all surrounding a little girl."I wish I could state that I was surprised by your actions," The Archmage ground out with a dry tone. "But naught you do surprises me any more."
"Your words sound like a challenge, good sir, and I shall take them as such."
Yikes, this little girl is dressed in colors normally reserved for royalty and glaring at Samael.The little girl was dressed in purple, and had a purple cloak trimmed with silver sized perfectly for her very small frame. Her long black hair was braided and tied off with silver ribbon, and I'd have put her age at no better than twelve. She was very small, and so cute I felt a stab of physical pain. She also bore an expression of set steel and looked to be trying to bore holes into me with her eyes alone.
And she knows who he is already, oh oh.Oh, and of course, she had power. Wild, growing power. In years to come, she would be a force to be reckoned with - if I let her live.
The little sister of the Empress has that much power, whoa. Yerma goes with the Archmage about leaving the tower standing, Samael trying to sell it as redecorating doesn't work. And Yerma tagging along to keep an eye on her sister's body, good."I am Yerma, second in line to Hammer throne and acting Empress while you persist in my sister's body." She declared, and actually tried to push me away.
And now corrupting youth, Samael, you need some harsh lessons already.Her eyes lit up to possibilities she had not considered; after all, she could just blame me. All according to plan.
Only a single glass of wine and single sweet cake, Yerma doesn't eat more sweet, what kind of kid is she?!?
That is some messed up historical revisionism. Demon King Roberto, okay. Samael plotting to wipe out kingdoms and salt the earth, more and more I hope he somehow breaks the geas. So Roberto died and his child is running his empire now.The demons just springing to life? The founding of the kingdom of darkness a mere five years after?
Ugh, Darg was a book burner, erasing history doesn't change it, you moron.
Wait, this makes it sound like they are in some kind of virtual reality or something, just what is going on?I wonder if I could find some graves from before, and empty those too? It might be nice to talk to some real people, some people who knew what reality and earth actually was.
Spiked Yerma's wine and she still is acting sober and completely alert, dang. Samael being so arrogant still, underestimating others like Ferahn when raw power isn't always what wins. Those armies are set up in a good defensive area, I shudder to think how many have lost their lives trying to assail them.
Seesh, if it weren't for the revenge part he might be even a little likable.I kicked the booze in his mug up another notch. "After I have my revenge on your emperor's line and the empire itself for my long imprisonment? Probably find a nice home somewhere and relax. Drink an ocean of liquor and eat the best foods."
It still exists, dang. Teasing about asking for absolution, Samael sure knows how to push buttons. The people cowering in fear isn't normal, is it? Afraid he might want sacrifices, only know him by the deeds recorded in books thousands of years ago, oh brother. A temple to Buddha as well, interesting. A statue of a woman Samael recognizes done Roman-style, wonder if it is of Mara.The Archmage narrowed his eyes again. "He does. The glorious Church of the one true God."
What Samael says about the lady of the fountain has upset the Archmage.
Heh, figures, history of their first Emperor built on lies.Mary, if only you knew. "Why would I lie? And about something this simple, this meaningless, of all things? Your first emporer was hardly a paragon of virtue; you forget, I knew these people. The lady of the fountain, as you call her, would have removed your Emporer's balls with a spoon if she had not died beforehand. She could not stand the man - none of us could."
And they brought back this old bigotry, only humans have souls and can be saved BS.The good Bishop grinned in unseemly glee. He really was drunk as a lord. "Indeed, many things have changed since you walked the earth, demon. But the doors of the church only swing open for humans, just as only those with souls and grace to save, can be saved."
"No, you shall not. Let the God you serve decide; trust in him."
Using his own faith against him, sometimes the only way to fight such bullheaded individuals. And Samael trying to rile up the crowds like this, he needs to learn when not to push buttons. To the point Princess Grahf tried to take her body back, only held back by her word.
Good grief just has to go and kick the barred door in and break it. Calling out God on not getting off his ass and saving these people, heh.The Archbishop attacking him with a lightning spell in a church, he is going to be in some serious trouble for this. No answer from God, so Samael burns parts of the church but leaves the structure standing."I dare," I told him calmly. "And if he wants, he can get down off his cloud and do something about it. but he won't, because he's afraid of me."
The ozone smell increased, but no lightning shot my way. On the contrary, the power present got that much closer for me; I could almost reach out and touch it. Most curious, that. I looked to the pedo, who was halfway through his prayer asking God to smite me, and it wasn't going to him either, so where was he getting his?
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- JohnBobMead
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Murky as all get out concerning just what happened back when Samael was first alive to result in such changes, presuming this is supposed to be in something resembling our reality.
But the author is correct; we don't need that info for this to be enjoyable.
While it doesn't say "Part 1," or "To Be Continued," I wouldn't mind reading further.
Dreamer's comments raise a possibility I hadn't considered.
Anyone here remember Arthur C. Clarke's The Lion of Comarre, first published in 1949? I read it in the 1968 reissue, matched with Against the Fall of Night.
It's not the only one that used the concept of people housed in life support systems while living within a virtual reality simulation, but if not the first, it was definitely a very early example.
Since then the idea has evolved to the point where a physical body is no longer required at all, that one can be uploaded into the system and exist until somehow deleted...
Cyberpunk touches on some aspects of this, and certain varieties of GameLit work the concept of getting sucked inside a VR game.
This being such a thing would not be inconsistent with what Samael relates.
So while it could be some post-apocalyptic tale, it could also be a VR simulation which failed to release those who entered it, either as a result of deliberate action on the part of the programmers, or due to an unsuspected bug.
Sword Art Online is a lovely example of it being the result of deliberate malice aforethought on the part of the lead programmer...
It could also be a situation where it was a deliberate choice to enter the VR environment as a one way trip, to willingly transmigrate; in such a case one has to wonder what the outer world had become that one would make such a choice.
And, for kicks and giggles, the possibility that when one logged out of the VR environment, your avatar actually remained as a copy of yourself as you were at the time you logged out, continuing within the VR environment and not realizing it's a copy, but believing something prevented you from logging out. So that you exist outside the VR environment, believing yourself unique, while you also exist as a continuing presence within the VR, also believing yourself unique.
- Nagrij
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I'd also like to say, that I find Samael likeable, but then again I do have a fondness for assholes. As for what actually happened, and why Sam is so bitter, there is a story there....
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- Katssun
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Very Dying Earth. I like. Scoundrel, like Dying Earth, has magic users and regular folks, and magic users. In Dying Earth, real wizards are all but indistinguishable from deities. Here, Samael and that lost pinnacle of skill are demi-gods and demons. I really like that the lapse in time has allowed for such a distortion of the history that he remembers.
But unlike Dying Earth, Samael doesn't appear to be alone in that level of power. There's Darnell who defeated Samael due to his overconfidence, there's Demon King Roberto and his successor, there's the younger Empress...
- Nagrij
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But you're right, and the reasons behind the power and magic will be explained eventually.
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