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Question Dawn
- Mikisha
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Crits, questions and feedback welcome. Thanks.

- Malady
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*Thinks about Nevermind as a codename...*
He's taunting him hard... Secret... Mutation? Strange mentals could be from bully's power? Gonna have bully follow to Whateley, like Abyss and Evershade??
So, just thought of it now, but that move's actually what he says it is, not a lie to cover up him going to Whateley, or could be both, though...
And that's as far as I read.
How's he gonna explain his beating? He got regen? If this is "Sunbeam"... Photonic Manipulator Illusionist?
Perhaps add some links into your sig, if you haven't already?
- Esar
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http://whateleyacademy.net/index.php/forum/fabrication-lab/1691-dawn
It is past midnight, but I promise you tomorrow I will read it and post at least a small feedback on your story. I have roughly two hours of train scheduled, so I should have the opportunity to read it during those hours. I am mostly saying that because now I know I HAVE to read it tomorrow.
- Malady
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Esar wrote: He/she has posted it in the Fabrication Lab, I don't think you have to post your WhatIf in the place that shall not be named to be uploaded latter and processed as a "WhatIf" to open a thread in the project discussion category ?
http://whateleyacademy.net/index.php/forum/fabrication-lab/1691-dawn
Well, yes. But, this section is for IFs, not Fab. Lab stuff, which they seem to know, given what they said in the thread they accidentally placed in The Workshop: Workshop: Dawn: Discussion
Which should go in Order of the Worn Wrench ...
I thought the OoWW stuff was FabLab stuff for some reason. ... My First post in this thread's gonna be a review on what I read.
- GrimGrendel
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Description of the Project Discussion section:
This section is for feedback and discussion about in progress Fabrication Lab works
Description of the Order of the Worn Wrench:
Only promoted Independent Fiction Authors, Editors, Publishers, and Staff can create or post to threads in this section.
Putting my comments here in any case.
'I know your secret.' That's both awesome, and sneaky. Regardless of whether Adams actually knows any secret (even just a small one) or he's just bluffing over the fact that everyone have secrets.
It's my first time reading dialogue wrapped in single quotes. It'll take me some getting used to, when sentences such as ('Jesus, I freakin' hope so) close the quote early.
Adam's mom in the driving seat asks some strange questions to his son. Especially the question 'How do you know which truck your dad is in?'. I get that she might be nervous behind the wheel and second-guessing everything, but the truck she's been following since they left should be rather obvious. And it doesn't really follow from her previous questions, since before that she seems at least aware that she's following her husband's vehicle.
'Probably from squinting at that map for hours on end. I keep telling you to get your eyes checked.' Road sickness would have been my first guess in her position *shrug*
'Well, there's some sunglasses in the glove box.' His mom is amusingly non-sensical. Not that the sunglasses aren't justified; it is quite sunny after all. It's just that her comment doesn't exactly follow from their previous discussion of having Adam's eyesight checked. It feels like she's skipping a step.
'intermittent queasy spells' Didn't know about that meaning for 'spell'. Thanks!
Holy shit, that mom's reaction! What's so wrong with Adam?!!
'They were dead.' Oh, boy. What the hell happened? I know what happened, it's just... It really happened?! Poor him.
If Adam didn't notice anything visible in the mirror that would have triggered his mom, then there's a mystery there that I'm impatient to discover
'So far there hadn't been any 'unfortunate' accidents, no glimpses of anything forbidden, but he lived in hope' A true savvy ecchi boy. ;3
Scott is acting weird. Is that linked to the mystery of Adam's mom's reaction? More mystery.
Looking forward to see Adam get closer to Evie. And there's some signs Adams might be a changeling, so that will definitely impact their budding (sisterly?) dynamic.
Up for review: Magpies 1 - Flock (Part 1)
- Mikisha
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Regarding Adam's odd behaviour at the beginning, he's depressed, preoccupied, has a headache, and this is his last day in town. He's got that last-day fever, where you think nothing can really affect you anymore (sure, swear at your teachers, what're they gonna do?)
I hope the apostrophes aren't too confusing. I only use double-quotes when the characters are quoting something. When I see them I always picture the characters doing air-quotes with their fingers, or being sarcastic.
Which truck is which? You've never been in a car with my mum. In this case she knows she's in a convoy with the trucks, but may have lost track of which one her husband is driving because they're both rental trucks with the same livery.
Road sickness, for me, only happens if I stop paying attention to the road. So long as my brain knows WHY I'm moving, everything is fine. As soon I distract it with a book my inner ear gets upset.
You're totally right about the sunglasses. I've amended the passage like this:
'I don't need glasses mom, my eyes are fine.'
'Well, maybe the sun's too bright. There's some sunglasses in the glove box.'
Adam was pretty freaked out by his mom's freakout, so he didn't get chance to do any investigation before everything went south. The streaky-vision was part of it, though.
Scott's weird behaviour is linked to the idea that somebody knows his secret (whatever that may be - Adam was totally bluffing).
Thanks again for the feedback! Muchly appreciated!
- Esar
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I think we can safely assume (unless you are leading us on) that he will become a changeling (but that's mostly because we are kinda looking for the "clues" because it is a whateley story and the universe is rooted in TG fiction. I often wonder if people who had no connection to this "genre" would pick up on this clues as easily as we tend to do.
Your main hook is the mystery of what has happened in the car. He has scared his mother. I think you have mentionned that his codename would be Sunbeam ? It tends to make me think about a light based powerset (obviously), maybe he has projected a mirage or something like that, spooking his mother in the process. But we will see.
- Mikisha
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Whateley folks always seem to be on changeling-watch - my first posted story had a scene where Sunbeam looked into a mirror and said "I hate you", and that was enough for at least one alert reader to suspect a gender swap.
On the opposite end of the scale, my beta reader knows exactly who Sunbeam is, but doesn't yet suspect this story is related.

Thanks for reading!
- Mikisha
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- Wavehead
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- GrimGrendel
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"You know that's why they called you Adam" Oh. Adam and Eve. Hadn't made the obvious connection until you pointed it out. I should have paid attention to that. Is there a snake and apples involved too? :3 Anything meaningful about their names?
"I'm not sure how I feel about you developing a crush" Reasonable. And Adam's answer is quite polite and appropriate, although I wonder if Adam will be able to keep the same distance after a while.
Regarding the backstory and Catherine's death, is it a subject uncle Pat should have breached with Adam after the loss of his parents? Wouldn't he be worried that it might trigger sadness and pain in Adam? They've been together for what, a month or two now, and Adam is still numb. Shouldn't he be seing a therapist to talk about things? I understand that the discussion was meant to get Adam and Eve to grow closer, it's just that had Adam not been so detached, that talk would have been a huge emotional landmine.
"my parents were there, but they were like shadows on the edge, we never talked about anything, it was like they owned a house and I lived in it" Lampshade hanging. The parents don't exist because they didn't add anything to the plot. This is a choice that robs a lot of drama to this part of the story. It's hard for me to empathize with Adam when he's so detached about the death of his parents, and so eager to live with Pat and Eve. You mentioned the stages of grief, only to dismiss them a few sentences later. It might be worthwile to still show Adam coping with the loss in small ways, subtly going through the stages of grief without him realising that he's doing so. Memories triggered by an image or a smell, drawing comparison on his life before and after, missing the few good things of his life before the incident. That sort of things.
"Evie's robe had come untied, and the last throw had flung it wide open" -w- Good job Adam. I really didn't see this one coming among all the thrown pillows. So this is firmly ecchi it seems
"Objectively, no. But eye contact is easier now, yeah. Sorry. Mind blown. Better now." Wow! Look at how honest he is. Owning up to his wandering eyes like a champ xD
Up for review: Magpies 1 - Flock (Part 1)
- Esar
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And I am wondering if him being kinda numb about his parents death won't lead to a Pay off latter on. We will have to wait and see.
- mhalpern
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I wouldn't say he's numb, I'm betting he's still in shock and doesn't even realize it, besides, Adam isn't done cooking, and that could be a factor in his mental state.Esar wrote: It was mostly a sweet scene.
And I am wondering if him being kinda numb about his parents death won't lead to a Pay off latter on. We will have to wait and see.
Any Bad Ideas I have and microscene OC character stories are freely adoptable.
- Mikisha
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GrimGrendel, you're right that it was perhaps insensitive of Uncle Pat to spill the story like that. Lucky for Adam he is still feeling so emotionally numb, or yeah, I guess he'd be pretty upset.
Adam's comments regarding his parents wasn't deliberate lampshade hanging, he's just always been a pretty isolated individual. It'll be a while before he realises he has a problem and needs therapy, but by then he's going to have other things to worry about.
I don't think the stages of grief are really a scientifically proven thing, but Adam's already wondering why he doesn't feel anything about the loss of his family. He's really quite good at ignoring things he doesn't want to deal with, and right now that means mostly anything. Everything gets bottled up and packed deep inside to be forgotten... for now.
Mhalpern has it right that Adam's still changing, and that's certainly impacting his mental state.
Thanks for reading!
- GrimGrendel
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Looking forward to see how Adam eventually deals with all those bottled trauma and his change. :3
Up for review: Magpies 1 - Flock (Part 1)
- Esar
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- Erisian
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One question, though. When Adam is talking to his uncle and refers to his cousin as 'Evie', the uncle scoffs and comments that he hadn't heard her called that in awhile, that he calls her 'Eve'.
So then Adam says, "Will Eve... Evie, visit again?"
I'll admit that I was a little confused, because I expected it the other way around, Adam calling her 'Evie' again and then correcting to 'Eve'. But then later he still is calling her 'Evie' throughout... so, was that intended? Just wondering!
I'd put this all in a comments block, but not sure how to do that... only have a button to do 'Spoilers' or 'Quotes'. Does putting anything inside brackets with a / bracket after work? lol
Anyway, looking forward to reading more soon!
Author of Into the Light, Light's Promise, and Call of the Light
(starts with Into The Light )
- Mikisha
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- mhalpern
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Any Bad Ideas I have and microscene OC character stories are freely adoptable.
- Mikisha
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- Erisian
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Mikisha wrote: I've modified the passage in question, both Uncle Pat's line and Adam's response. I hope it reads a little easier now. Thanks for your feedback!
That was great! Works well with the uncle settling on Adam being family now too as part of the exchange.

Author of Into the Light, Light's Promise, and Call of the Light
(starts with Into The Light )
- Malady
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This is HilariousInHindsight, if this Dawn isn't related to Toison...
Please add a link to your sig? Then again, I could just find the story by searching...
- Mikisha
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