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Question All Things Tink

9 years 5 months ago #1 by Domoviye
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  • Post your thoughts here involving Tink. If you've already read it on the old board, check it out again, as I've changed the manifesting event, and tidied things up a bit.
    9 years 5 months ago #2 by Arcanist Lupus
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  • Well, the first thing I noticed was that Summer of Fun seems to cut out mid-sentence.

    "Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
    9 years 5 months ago #3 by Domoviye
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  • Thanks, fixed.
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  • Rereading Tink: Summer of Fun and noticed you changed how she got out of her original body. Yet the store owner when he is reading the article about the death of Teri's original body it mentions the "creature" smashing its way through the ribcage, which she didn't do this time.

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    9 years 5 months ago - 9 years 5 months ago #5 by Domoviye
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  • Actually she did. She just sneezed herself out through her rib cage and pyjamas. That's why she was dripping with red stuff, and her face hurt.
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  • Yeah, that wasn't obvious from the original scene completely. Took until the scene with the Lincoln Freedom Squad when she says she came out through her chest, from the original scene it sounded like she had been violently coughed out of her own mouth cover in blood.

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    9 years 5 months ago #7 by Domoviye
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  • Ok, I'll fix it tomorrow. Thanks.
    9 years 5 months ago #8 by Domoviye
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  • Ok I just posted half of Tink: Getting an Education. Now I have a question.
    I stopped just before she goes to get power tested again, that part got a lot of laughs, but it's the most unrealistic part of the story. So should I tone down the scene, just gloss over it, keep it, or go even funnier?
    Suggestions and ideas are welcome.
    9 years 5 months ago #9 by Arcanist Lupus
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  • Sanity? Reality? What's that?


    Actually, you can have it both ways - have the power testing be related as a flashback (told either by Tink or by one of the testers) so nobody listening is really sure whether it actually happened that way or not. Then you can ramp up the funny without breaking anyone's suspension of disbelief to much.

    "Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
    9 years 5 months ago #10 by E M Pisek
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  • Domoviye wrote: Ok I just posted half of Tink: Getting an Education. Now I have a question.
    I stopped just before she goes to get power tested again, that part got a lot of laughs, but it's the most unrealistic part of the story. So should I tone down the scene, just gloss over it, keep it, or go even funnier?
    Suggestions and ideas are welcome.


    Depends I suppose. Are you going for canon? And if so would it fit really into canon? If so to both leave it.

    Haven't read it yet but yeah I'll hold off on my judgement for now. Let others weigh in.

    What is - was. What was - is.
    9 years 5 months ago #11 by E M Pisek
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  • Arcanist Lupus wrote: Sanity? Reality? What's that?


    Actually, you can have it both ways - have the power testing be related as a flashback (told either by Tink or by one of the testers) so nobody listening is really sure whether it actually happened that way or not. Then you can ramp up the funny without breaking anyone's suspension of disbelief to much.


    Now there's and idea. Have it to where Tink tells it in flashback, but have it where others tell a different side of events, thus this will build upon her character in the idea of how much of a storyteller she really is.

    What is - was. What was - is.
    9 years 5 months ago #12 by Domoviye
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  • Arcanist Lupus wrote: Sanity? Reality? What's that?


    Actually, you can have it both ways - have the power testing be related as a flashback (told either by Tink or by one of the testers) so nobody listening is really sure whether it actually happened that way or not. Then you can ramp up the funny without breaking anyone's suspension of disbelief to much.


    DONE!!!!
    I can make it even more insane now!
    9 years 5 months ago #13 by Arcanist Lupus
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  • Domoviye wrote:

    Arcanist Lupus wrote: Sanity? Reality? What's that?


    Actually, you can have it both ways - have the power testing be related as a flashback (told either by Tink or by one of the testers) so nobody listening is really sure whether it actually happened that way or not. Then you can ramp up the funny without breaking anyone's suspension of disbelief to much.


    DONE!!!!
    I can make it even more insane now!

    What hath I wrought?

    "Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
    9 years 5 months ago #14 by E M Pisek
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  • Arcanist Lupus wrote:

    Domoviye wrote:

    Arcanist Lupus wrote: Sanity? Reality? What's that?


    Actually, you can have it both ways - have the power testing be related as a flashback (told either by Tink or by one of the testers) so nobody listening is really sure whether it actually happened that way or not. Then you can ramp up the funny without breaking anyone's suspension of disbelief to much.


    DONE!!!!
    I can make it even more insane now!

    What hath I wrought?


    Nothing. It was all about me. Me. Me. Me.
    Well okay maybe a little of you. But its still all about me.

    What is - was. What was - is.
    9 years 5 months ago #15 by Domoviye
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  • Ok, it's up, along with the final part of Getting an Education.
    Enjoy the insanity.
    9 years 5 months ago #16 by E M Pisek
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  • Needs to be edited a bit more for spelling errors near the end.

    What is - was. What was - is.
    9 years 5 months ago #17 by Domoviye
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  • Fixed the few mistakes I and my spell checker saw.
    9 years 4 months ago #18 by ~Archangel~
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  • Ok I loved all of them, I read them in one sitting in between gasps for oxygen because I was laughing so hard. Tink being friends with Jade?? I can just see various teachers reaching for the Maalox. Her madcap antics complete with all the stuff that happens to her, are you certain there isn't a bit of Probability Warper, or just maybe Reality Warper in Tinks make up?

    I can just see Tink screaming "I reject your Reality and substitute my own!!" after a sugar/alcohol bender. And then her friends get turned in to faeries like her and then they have to chase down Tink to get things back to normal, but Tink is having too much fun...

    What about Tink's love life? Is she going have a crush on a boy, and NOT take it's physically impossible for and answer? Maybe she embarks on quest to shrink the object of her crush to her size, since she's obviously perfect already and he needs to be more like her.

    Anyways keep 'em coming please.

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    Some are called 'mad' and shut up in rooms where they stare at the walls all day.
    Others are called 'writers' and they do pretty much the same thing.
    -Ray Bradbury
    9 years 4 months ago - 9 years 4 months ago #19 by Malady
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  • ~Archangel~ wrote: Ok I loved all of them, I read them in one sitting in between gasps for oxygen because I was laughing so hard. Tink being friends with Jade?? I can just see various teachers reaching for the Maalox. Her madcap antics complete with all the stuff that happens to her, are you certain there isn't a bit of Probability Warper, or just maybe Reality Warper in Tinks make up?

    I can just see Tink screaming "I reject your Reality and substitute my own!!" after a sugar/alcohol bender. And then her friends get turned in to faeries like her and then they have to chase down Tink to get things back to normal, but Tink is having too much fun...

    What about Tink's love life? Is she going have a crush on a boy, and NOT take it's physically impossible for and answer? Maybe she embarks on quest to shrink the object of her crush to her size, since she's obviously perfect already and he needs to be more like her.

    Anyways keep 'em coming please.


    Well, we shipped her with Splits... If what we did can actually be called shipping...

    If anyone has my Archive, Look for "Fan Fiction Discussion ... Tink ... 9" and 10.
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    9 years 4 months ago #20 by Domoviye
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  • Does spelunking count as shipping?
    I've got some funny ideas dealing with Tinks love life, but that will have to wait.
    As for reality warping... NO!!!!
    She'd destroy the world.
    9 years 4 months ago #21 by ~Archangel~
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  • Domoviye wrote: Does spelunking count as shipping?
    I've got some funny ideas dealing with Tinks love life, but that will have to wait.
    As for reality warping... NO!!!!
    She'd destroy the world.


    Oh come on it would only happen when she's really high, like extremely high on sugar and booze.
    Come on you know you want to...:evil:

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    Some are called 'mad' and shut up in rooms where they stare at the walls all day.
    Others are called 'writers' and they do pretty much the same thing.
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    9 years 4 months ago #22 by Phoenix Spiritus
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  • Domoviye wrote: As for reality warping... NO!!!!
    She'd destroy the world.


    What about size warping? Preferably of others?
    9 years 4 months ago #23 by Domoviye
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  • No warping for Tink. Her brain is warped enough.
    9 years 4 months ago #24 by E M Pisek
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  • Domoviye wrote: No warping for Tink. Her brain is warped enough.


    She's not warped. Just highly impressionable.

    What is - was. What was - is.
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  • She's been impressed into warpiness.
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  • Reread the start of Summer of Fun. I thought she burst out of her chest like thinking it was blankets... But no, she burst out of her body thinking it was a cough. Huh.

    Trudging to the kitchen, Teri felt an enormous sneeze rising up. Before she could even cover her mouth, it ripped through her throat. It actually felt like she'd been punched in the face, her entire body felt strange, and sticky. There was a thump behind here.


    The mental transition is pretty seamless... I guess the lack of change recognition is a bit of change blindness. That, and she was sort of sick before? ... Also, typo.

    Her mother kept screaming, and she heard her dad come running down the stairs. Turning around, she stopped suddenly. Something was wrong, her legs hadn't moved, and everything seemed so much bigger than before. Looking down, she screamed as loudly as her mother.


    ... Can Tink even get sick now? ... Weird idea for Evil Bio-dev contest. Make a illness that can affect Tink, or one of the other Exotic Biologies.

    EDIT:

    And the opening change was noted before... *sigh* [ Click to expand ]
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    8 years 10 months ago #27 by Domoviye
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  • Originally she did dig her way out of her chest. But I was told that was really gross and disturbing, so I changed it to a cough.
    She can get sick, and it just hasn't come up yet.
    8 years 10 months ago #28 by Domoviye
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  • Quick question.
    For the rebooted Tink stories coming out soon (I promise) what do people think it should have? All Suggestions, ideas and theories welcome.
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  • A small hole in the box led to her pantry full of candy, dried fruit, jerky, cookies, granola bars and more.


    How was she not sugar rushing all over the store? Or was she?

    Also, I forgot that her eyes glowed...
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  • Malady wrote:

    A small hole in the box led to her pantry full of candy, dried fruit, jerky, cookies, granola bars and more.


    How was she not sugar rushing all over the store? Or was she?

    Also, I forgot that her eyes glowed...


    Because when I wrote it initially I hadn't thought of that yet. And I forgot to fix it in the rewrite.
    The story was a lot of stream of conscious writing, which is how it went from a disturbing and depressing start and went to 3 stooges insanity.
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  • Domoviye wrote:

    Malady wrote:

    A small hole in the box led to her pantry full of candy, dried fruit, jerky, cookies, granola bars and more.


    How was she not sugar rushing all over the store? Or was she?

    Also, I forgot that her eyes glowed...


    Because when I wrote it initially I hadn't thought of that yet. And I forgot to fix it in the rewrite.
    The story was a lot of stream of conscious writing, which is how it went from a disturbing and depressing start and went to 3 stooges insanity.


    *nods* ... You could have her note, in-character, that she wasn't sugar rushing before, and say something like her mutation hadn't finished yet? I wonder if the idea that your body keeps changing, even after initial mutation would be something to freak out about?

    ... Could give her the full Chaka's Food Reactions set, adding Choco-horny to the Sugar Rush. ... But it's not like she can eat chocolate now, so even if that were true, it wouldn't be discovered... ... Why do I keep thinking of ways to make it go back into disturbing??? *sigh*

    ... Does Chaka exist in the Tink-verse? I don't think she's been mentioned? ... How many Sugar Rushers are there, in canon? Is Chaka the only one? Mmm...

    ... Do you want me to keep pointing these out, or have you tracked down all the things you need to retcon or whatever already?
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  • Those are some interesting ideas. But I don't need help fixing up plotholes, This is just to be an interesting bit for people to take some guesses at what is planned, and maybe give me some good ideas. People who are close can get a reward of some kind.
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  • Yes!

    More Tink!

    Much more Tink!

    :D

    She's a wonderfully chewy character.

    I'm looking forward to seeing the reactions of Venus Inc to the competition especially when they realised that they made a mistake by turning her down.


    Measure Twice
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  • Given the original was largely stream-of-consciousness, then you hit a brick wall with development following the chaos with TLW, it might be prudent to plan a handful of major milestones for her following arrival at Whateley, and possibly some more down-to-earth experiences to contrast with the zaniness - while it's fun reading about her trying to evade the red flag by pretending to be a bird, or escaping the ever-more-bizarre attempts by the TLW to capture her for her (non-existent) essence, those are likely only a small part of her life, so having an insight into what happens the rest of the time could be interesting: the problems she encounters, the (legitimate!) solutions she arrives at to cope. For example, quickly getting to know who's in both Class A and Class B, and who's in both Class B and Class C, so she can hitch a lift on a shoulder / in a pocket between the classes, using a special miniature keyboard for the school laptop (after all, to her, conventional keys may appear almost as large as a beer mat or coaster), maybe even causing headaches in powers testing because while they're set up to cope with mutants of many different shapes and sizes, they're all usually not far off human norms - the equipment almost certainly isn't designed to cope with someone as small as Tink.

    It's all still making extensive use of your imagination, but applying it in a slightly different direction (well, a similar direction to when Teri set up home in the grocery store, but slightly more practical and down-to-earth than before).

    Actually, thinking of that, much of the zaniness of her grocery store adventures could be attributable to overdosing on sugar - after all, newly manifested, she wouldn't intiially be aware of her different nutritional requirements and may not even make the connection herself about the relationship between sugar and hyperactivity. That way, while the circumstances of her manifestation may be heavily revised, the essence of her adventures between then and being discovered by Mouser could be retained.

    As the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only left-handers are in their right mind!
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  • mittfh wrote: while it's fun reading about her trying to evade the red flag by pretending to be a bird, or escaping the ever-more-bizarre attempts by the TLW to capture her for her (non-existent) essence, those are likely only a small part of her life, so having an insight into what happens the rest of the time could be interesting: the problems she encounters, the (legitimate!) solutions she arrives at to cope. For example, quickly getting to know who's in both Class A and Class B, and who's in both Class B and Class C, so she can hitch a lift on a shoulder / in a pocket between the classes, using a special miniature keyboard for the school laptop (after all, to her, conventional keys may appear almost as large as a beer mat or coaster)


    Oh, I thought you wanted like... No, you do want knowledge of the events between the TLW attempts... But given the timeline, whatever it is, is there enough time between attempts for anything interesting to happen?

    We know about Ethereal Beauties, Splits, Page, Mobius... Whoever that huggy-Hawthornie is... ... Just gonna read that new Micro and ttyl...
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  • You'll be happy to know that Tink is being filled out, with more details and overarching plotlines. And it's still funny. Mostly.

    At least fifty percent of the time.

    Usually.
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  • Well, obviously you wouldn't spend 90% of story time dealing with the mundane and 10% the fun - I did say some insight, rather than doing a Diane and writing a quarter of a million words on exactly what happens in a typical day in Tink's life at Whateley :)

    As the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only left-handers are in their right mind!
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    Classes: Japanese, Flying 1, English, Math, power studies, costume

    And here is an appropriate song for her:

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  • Malady wrote: What does Tink sound like again?


    Tink
    Noun
    1. A sharp, quick sound
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  • DanZilla wrote:

    Malady wrote: What does Tink sound like again?


    Tink
    Noun
    1. A sharp, quick sound


    Oh, so like Navi? :lol: :roll:
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  • She's squeaky.
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  • So, like a Chipette, but you know, insane?
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  • Phoenix Spiritus wrote: So, like a Chipette, but you know, insane?

    Yes.
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  • Like one of those little toys dogs bite the squeaker out of?
    Now there's an interesting idea...:evil:

    I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
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  • No Periods, Period ... I think is true for Tink? ... Is her form a evolutionary dead-end?? Or, if not, she starts a race of pixies / fairies / whatever?

    Always fertile, like Sara? Or some weird reproductive biology?
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  • Can't say as of yet. But it is being dealt with.
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  • Was rereading Quest for Essence, and Tink does the Tank Scrub detention, while being unable to prove that she's being messed with. Would FUBAR have helped clear her name via some ESPer application, or not, for some reason?

    Is she a Null that only lets people in when she wants them to, without knowing it? 'Cause Page could read-write her thoughts fine.

    Could Page make herself write her own thoughts instead of random ones? ... What are the symbols that are on Page when she's not ESPering? ... If any of them are magic... Well, she's not giving them Essence, so she wouldn't be inadvertently casting?

    Edit: But, hey, the whole story's getting rewritten. Even if this is a plot hole, it'll disappear nicely and stuff. You just want some justification for your personal satisfaction. :angry:
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  • Fubar tries not to read or at least reveal peoples thoughts, so he kept quiet. Its not like it was a major penalty she needs the discipline.
    And Page can write her own thoughts, but doesn't like to. Who wants people to know what they're thinking. With her its all just GSD, no magic or anything.
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  • Also even that sort of "proof" may or may not be accurate. Someone could have implanted memories, or Tink could otherwise believe it to be true, when in fact it didn't happen.

    Don't Drick and Drive.
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  • Domoviye wrote: And here is an appropriate song for her:

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    So, she's a curious leader/trailblazer, doing what others don't dare to do. Nice!

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    So, does Tink need to flap her wings to fly?
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    8 years 7 months ago #53 by Domoviye
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  • Since she can fly thanks to a PK field like Lancer, no she doesn't need to flap her wings, but she sometimes does anyways. If the PK field goes down, she can still fly but much, much slower.
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  • Something I've been wondering about. Tink didn't seem to have some sort of awful relationship with her parents, but nothing much has been touched on in regard to her trying to use a second party to let her parents know the truth. I was also wondering about why they have not noticed that the fairy Butterfly looks just like the monster that killed their daughter, but in that instance I'm thinking she was pretty darn gory and they were in shock.

    Another thing that popped into my head was caused by the people who commented on her being too small to be intelligent.

    Have no idea if this is true, but will go along with it. But it did get me to thinking about the reverse. I've read some theories that there is a limit to how big a brain can get and still be functional. It used electro/chemical signals to transfer data, as far as I know.

    this is not a light speed function. The bigger a brain gets, the longer it takes for an impulse to travel from a sensory nerve to the brain, and for the brain to do anything about it.

    Tink is tiny. her reaction time should be much faster than a normal human simply because her nerve impulses have a far shorter distance to travel. Part of her mutation must cause an adjustment to her perception because otherwise everyone would seem to be moving and talking in slow motion. Just like they did when she was on a sugar rush.

    maybe the sugar didn't speed her up so much as it interfered with her ability to adapt to normal human speeds.
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  • In the rewrite her family will play an important role. I had a few ideas for the future, but I've got a full rewrite going that improves so many things.

    Not sure about how big a brain could be before distance caused problems. I do that body size matters. Larger dinosaurs had to have a secondary type brain to deal with their size, generally somewhere near their hind end.

    Her small size and energizer mutation does make her reaction times something equivalent to a mouse or humming bird. Thats why Mouser who's an equivalent Exemplar 5, had trouble catching her. Again it's something that is brought up more in the rewrite.
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  • looking forward to the rewrite. Have really enjoyed the old versions, hope once you get the rewrite done you'll be full steam ahead on new material. ^_^
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