Question Special Class: Combat in Armor?

Is there a class that allows a student to learn to fight in say something like Stormtrooper armor (to use an example most people will know), or their power armor? Asking cause it seems at least from what we have so far, that unless your armor is part of your powers you get no training from the school to use it.

crystalhall.wikia.com/wiki/Advanced_Defensive_Technologies ?

It is focused on the design, construction and testing of Power Suits.

Malady wrote: crystalhall.wikia.com/wiki/Advanced_Defensive_Technologies ?

It is focused on the design, construction and testing of Power Suits.

Ok, maybe for the power suit crowd, but what about the knight wannabes like Pendragon and Stalwart? Or maybe my 501st cos-player or a Fandalorian who upgrade to real but unpowered armor?

Considering that we have seen but one year of classes, and had just a little mention of upper level martial arts courses, I would think that a western style fighting in armor course might exist, probably as one of the Winter Term courses. A high tech body armor course might part of the Range courses too.

Also remember that Britomart, and other with manifested armor train with it in BMA.

Hm. I remember Ito saying that some of the BMA classes would be taught in costumes (which makes sense, if the student expects to fight in costume fairly often, they need to adapt technique for it). If your costume happens to be an armor...

There's one scene i remember where Jericho fought in his armor in BMA vs Tennyo.

Of course, Combat in Armour should really be part of Home Ec...

Cryptic wrote: Is there a class that allows a student to learn to fight in say something like Stormtrooper armor (to use an example most people will know), or their power armor? Asking cause it seems at least from what we have so far, that unless your armor is part of your powers you get no training from the school to use it.

(I know you just used it as an example) But stormtrooper armor has many faults
1 Vision, to quote Luke "I can't see a thing in this helmet"
2 design effectiveness, limits freedom of movement
3 design effectiveness, shiny and white, stands out in most environments.
4 mask only filters smoke, not toxins.
5 small arms fire seems to take out troopers, so the armor does little or nothing.

mhalpern wrote: 5 small arms fire seems to take out troopers, so the armor does little or nothing.

To be fare, every time we've seen that, the person shooting has reason to make sure any weapon they carry is good enough to at least disable Storm Troopers.

It could be that there is only two guns in the galaxy that get through their armour, but the stories we've seen have always been filmed from the point of view of the people who wield those guns.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

mhalpern wrote: 5 small arms fire seems to take out troopers, so the armor does little or nothing.

To be fare, every time we've seen that, the person shooting has reason to make sure any weapon they carry is good enough to at least disable Storm Troopers.

It could be that there is only two guns in the galaxy that get through their armour, but the stories we've seen have always been filmed from the point of view of the people who wield those guns.

Actually to be fair, we don't know how many of those storm troopers were killed verses being knocked out, it could very well be that weapons like blaster rifles and the bowcaster kill but the blaster pistols just knock them down, and cause them to pass out in pain.

He's not dead Jim.

All the proof you need.

Plus how many Stormtroopers were killed by Ewoks, etc.

Well we do know the armor is SOMETIMES effective against blasters, remember that absolutely useless bottleneck attempt on the Tantive IV?

mhalpern wrote: Well we do know the armor is SOMETIMES effective against blasters, remember that absolutely useless bottleneck attempt on the Tantive IV?

Considering that we only see two or three Stormtroopers hit during the combat, and there are at least that many bodies. I honestly can't say that it is working, unless it has some sort of magnetic field that deflects shots that aren't square on. The rebel/Leia's guards or whoever was on the ship were actually worse shots than the Stormtroopers. (The animators hate mass blaster fire.)

Actually, according to Canon sources most the storm troopers we see struck by blaster fire live through it, but are knocked unconscious. This is why we see the troopers moving on the ground afterwards, consider the trooper that was taking care of one of the others at the first appearance of Darth Vader on the Tantive IV.

As for the Ewoks, as stupid as it sounds, according to Canon they're supposed to be almost as strong as Wookies.

If I remember correctly, even historically speaking in ye olde dark times, a lot of combat ended up with people being knocked out or too tired to continue. With proper padding, armor is actually darned effective. In the older d6 version of Star Wars most armor was better against physical damage (claws, rocks, grenades, vibroweapons, etc) rather than energy damage (blasters, lightsabers). Blasters aren't uncommon, particularly in more frontier areas like Tatooine. We've got a lot of evidence of this in the original trilogy, things like the Ewok movies with Cindel Towani and her family (Ha, I totally went there!), as well as the expanded animated universe like the Droids cartoon series. I would imagine it's similar to firearms in the real world in terms of who has them, where, various governments regulating them differently, etc.

Fighting in armor though, you DO move differently, it DOES restrict your movements, and it takes some work to get used to the weight and how you run and move just a little differently. Similar to sports folks practice in pads as well as out of pads. I could easily see some specialized classes on it for those that want to take them (Power armored users, the Grunts, etc) but it probably wouldn't be a mainstream class. Most people will live their entire lives without armor, even in the WU.

E. E. Nalley wrote: Actually, according to Canon sources most the storm troopers we see struck by blaster fire live through it, but are knocked unconscious. This is why we see the troopers moving on the ground afterwards, consider the trooper that was taking care of one of the others at the first appearance of Darth Vader on the Tantive IV.

As for the Ewoks, as stupid as it sounds, according to Canon they're supposed to be almost as strong as Wookies.

Well the Ewok thing actually makes sort of sense, both with all the traps they were able to set up on short notice, and their homes, the way they are constructed, considering their tools, strength is needed.

E. E. Nalley wrote: As for the Ewoks, as stupid as it sounds, according to Canon they're supposed to be almost as strong as Wookies.

Cause originally they where supposed to be Wookies.

BTW HATE the Wookie Defense, as who ever came up with it knew nothing of SW lore.


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-shakes fist- Curse you EE, now I wanna have an "Ewok" student running around in my stories!

Cryptic wrote:

E. E. Nalley wrote: As for the Ewoks, as stupid as it sounds, according to Canon they're supposed to be almost as strong as Wookies.

Cause originally they where supposed to be Wookies.

BTW HATE the Wookie Defense, as who ever came up with it knew nothing of SW lore.


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-shakes fist- Curse you EE, now I wanna have an "Ewok" student running around in my stories!

It's called "introducing Jade to Caravan of Courage"

Cryptic wrote:

E. E. Nalley wrote: As for the Ewoks, as stupid as it sounds, according to Canon they're supposed to be almost as strong as Wookies.

Cause originally they where supposed to be Wookies.

BTW HATE the Wookie Defense, as who ever came up with it knew nothing of SW lore.


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-shakes fist- Curse you EE, now I wanna have an "Ewok" student running around in my stories!

Have Jade become a Furry.

Valentine wrote:

Cryptic wrote:

E. E. Nalley wrote: As for the Ewoks, as stupid as it sounds, according to Canon they're supposed to be almost as strong as Wookies.

Cause originally they where supposed to be Wookies.

BTW HATE the Wookie Defense, as who ever came up with it knew nothing of SW lore.


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-shakes fist- Curse you EE, now I wanna have an "Ewok" student running around in my stories!

Have Jade become a Furry.

That was singular, not an army that thinks VERY much alike, with questionable sanity, also those Ewoks would be pink...

mhalpern wrote: That was singular, not an army that thinks VERY much alike, with questionable sanity, also those Ewoks would be pink...

Care-Bears!!!!

NeoMagus wrote:

mhalpern wrote: That was singular, not an army that thinks VERY much alike, with questionable sanity, also those Ewoks would be pink...

Care-Bears!!!!

Care-Ewoks???

Is that like cuddly, dwarf-mutant Wookies then?

elrodw wrote:

NeoMagus wrote:

mhalpern wrote: That was singular, not an army that thinks VERY much alike, with questionable sanity, also those Ewoks would be pink...

Care-Bears!!!!

Care-Ewoks???

Is that like cuddly, dwarf-mutant Wookies then?

Add Hello Kitty apparel...

This is something of a tangent to the thrust of the thread but I heard over the weekend that Kenny Baker, the actor who was well known for playing R2-D2 (and also one of the Ewoks) in the Star Wars films passed away on Saturday 13th August at the age of 82.

I shall now return you to the normal activities of this thread.

John.