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9 years 4 months ago - 9 years 4 months ago #1 by Malady
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  • What info is and isn't being gathered by spies?

    Like the Masterminds, The Spy Kids, Ayla's Network, Thuban's Network, etc.

    I've got students who are pushed into Whateley by Sponsors and arrive by Super-sonic Jet, with VOTL capacity, on Whateley's Airstrip-thing, and I want to who'd know about my students before they enter the campus.

    I've read Ayla 5, so I know that Power Testing Data and Incident Reports are spied on, but what else, other than in-campus convos of the Importants, like Ayla, She-Beast, etc.
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    9 years 4 months ago #2 by Kettlekorn
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  • If any significant preparation is needed to accommodate them (reconfiguration of rooms in Hawthorne, for example), it's likely that some people will know.

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    9 years 4 months ago - 9 years 4 months ago #3 by Phoenix Spiritus
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  • Most of the "In Whateley" student groups gather their data from within Whateley, if its not reasonable for someone in Whateley to know the information, and for that organisation to be able to "intercept" the information from them, its unlikely they'll know it.

    Some people have assists outside Whateley (e.g. Ayla, Theban, Mrs. Hartford, etc.), and then it becomes a question of where did the event happen? Who saw it? Where would that information be reported? Is it reasonable that a contact of an on campus person had it bought to their attention by their outside contacts?

    So, in the case of the supersonic jets:
    • Who provided the jets?
    • Where did they land?
    • How impressive would this have been?
    • Who would have seen it?
    • Who would they tell about it?
    • Who would that get back to?
    • Who could intercept information from those that know it?

    If you need it known, it would be better to introduce a character that would see it, investigate it and comment about it in a place the information would spread from. e.g. if a Gadgeteer was (for some reason) at the Airport and saw the jets land and could get into a position where they can chat to someone who tells them who's jet it is, and then they see your students disembark, then they see them later at Whateley the gadgeteer would be sure to discuss this with their friends in the Crystal Hall and it can be assumed the "gossip" would be all over the campus soon after.
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  • Oh, there is also people who will "go backwards", they might not know anything about them before they arrive, but if they enter their sphere of influence they will expand resources investigating them. e.g. Turban for any GSD kids, Ayla for any new Poe residents or gadgeteers, Jadis for any new "Bad Seeds" or members of Melville, etc.
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  • Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Most of the "In Whateley" student groups gather their data from within Whateley, if its not reasonable for someone in Whateley to know the information, and for that organisation to be able to "intercept" the information from them, its unlikely they'll know it.

    Some people have assists outside Whateley (e.g. Ayla, Theban, Mrs. Hartford, etc.), and then it becomes a question of where did the event happen? Who saw it? Where would that information be reported? Is it reasonable that a contact of an on campus person had it bought to their attention by their outside contacts?

    So, in the case of the supersonic jets:

    • Who provided the jets?
    • Where did they land?
    • How impressive would this have been?
    • Who would have seen it?
    • Who would they tell about it?
    • Who would that get back to?
    • Who could intercept information from those that know it?

    If you need it known, it would be better to introduce a character that would see it, investigate it and comment about it in a place the information would spread from. e.g. if a Gadgeteer was (for some reason) at the Airport and saw the jets land and could get into a position where they can chat to someone who tells them who's jet it is, and then they see your students disembark, then they see them later at Whateley the gadgeteer would be sure to discuss this with their friends in the Crystal Hall and it can be assumed the "gossip" would be all over the campus soon after.


    :oops: I meant that the Jets land inside Whateley... :oops:
    9 years 4 months ago #6 by E. E. Nalley
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  • Your question is incorrectly phrased. It isn't a question of who is gathering intel, that is effectively EVERYONE on campus. Think back to the rumor mill that was your own high school experience and put those memories on a juicy cocktail of crack, crystal meth and speed. That's Whateley.

    Now the important question you should be asking yourself is who is CORRECTLY interpreting that information. Recall Jadis' rueful thoughts about how she realized Loophole was in a sexual relationship with Songbird her freshman year but did nothing with it because she thought it obvious and common knowledge when she actually had actionable intel that was relatively unknown.

    That's your real question.

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    9 years 4 months ago #7 by Valentine
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  • E. E. Nalley wrote: Your question is incorrectly phrased. It isn't a question of who is gathering intel, that is effectively EVERYONE on campus. Think back to the rumor mill that was your own high school experience and put those memories on a juicy cocktail of crack, crystal meth and speed. That's Whateley.

    Now the important question you should be asking yourself is who is CORRECTLY interpreting that information. Recall Jadis' rueful thoughts about how she realized Loophole was in a sexual relationship with Songbird her freshman year but did nothing with it because she thought it obvious and common knowledge when she actually had actionable intel that was relatively unknown.

    That's your real question.


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  • If that's true then you must find Whateley and even more fantastic place than other readers do. Whateley is rather familiar for most high school graduates. Whateley just has the power levels turned up to 11.
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  • Malady wrote:

    Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Most of the "In Whateley" student groups gather their data from within Whateley, if its not reasonable for someone in Whateley to know the information, and for that organisation to be able to "intercept" the information from them, its unlikely they'll know it.

    Some people have assists outside Whateley (e.g. Ayla, Theban, Mrs. Hartford, etc.), and then it becomes a question of where did the event happen? Who saw it? Where would that information be reported? Is it reasonable that a contact of an on campus person had it bought to their attention by their outside contacts?

    So, in the case of the supersonic jets:

    • Who provided the jets?
    • Where did they land?
    • How impressive would this have been?
    • Who would have seen it?
    • Who would they tell about it?
    • Who would that get back to?
    • Who could intercept information from those that know it?

    If you need it known, it would be better to introduce a character that would see it, investigate it and comment about it in a place the information would spread from. e.g. if a Gadgeteer was (for some reason) at the Airport and saw the jets land and could get into a position where they can chat to someone who tells them who's jet it is, and then they see your students disembark, then they see them later at Whateley the gadgeteer would be sure to discuss this with their friends in the Crystal Hall and it can be assumed the "gossip" would be all over the campus soon after.


    :oops: I meant that the Jets land inside Whateley... :oops:


    only if they are VTOL. Whateley does not have an airport for normal aircraft.

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  • Why would they land at Whatelely? Whateley actually likes things to be 'low key', and there is a perfectly usable airport at Berlin they could use with Whateley able to organise transport from there.
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  • true, though Whateley does have a specially reinforced and marked area for VTOLs, because of The Amazing Three dropping in with their custom aircraft. ( Jade's adventures in babysitting mentions this. )

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  • And apparently the carpark is specially re-enforced and uses devisor asphalt too because of the amount of people who just don't use the special pad for their VTOL craft :P

    Still, comment stands. Whateley Authorities would be less then happy at the students that arrived in such a flashy way.
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  • Phoenix Spiritus wrote: And apparently the carpark is specially re-enforced and uses devisor asphalt too because of the amount of people who just don't use the special pad for their VTOL craft :P

    Still, comment stands. Whateley Authorities would be less then happy at the students that arrived in such a flashy way.


    'Cause there's a hospital, and the students are both registered, coming from Japan, and need a neutral location with enough scientific resources to generate the medicine needed to keep the students alive. Japan can't produce the medicine in the required quantities, and need to off-load patients to other places to keep then alive.

    Also, they're Sponsored by a Whateley Sponsor, who informed the Academy of this.

    On the note of hospitals, Doyle is the best hospital within... how far, again?

    I could have them go to ARC, but I don't think ARC has the same kind of medical facilities?
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  • If I recall correctly the Doyle medical centre is designated as a regional trauma centre and, as such, would be expected to have a landing area for emergency air ambulance helicopters.

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  • Yeah, but the problem is that a supersonic jet requires significantly more runway than a helicopter. Unless it's VTOL, but it hasn't been stated whether this aircraft is VTOL.

    Berlin isn't far from Whateley. The jet could land at the airport and transfer the patients to a helicopter or warper for the final leg of the journey.

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  • rubberjohn wrote: If I recall correctly the Doyle medical centre is designated as a regional trauma centre and, as such, would be expected to have a landing area for emergency air ambulance helicopters.

    John.

    Kettlekorn wrote: Yeah, but the problem is that a supersonic jet requires significantly more runway than a helicopter. Unless it's VTOL, but it hasn't been stated whether this aircraft is VTOL.

    Berlin isn't far from Whateley. The jet could land at the airport and transfer the patients to a helicopter or warper for the final leg of the journey.


    :oops: This jet is VOTL. ... How fast can Warpers Warp?
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  • Malady wrote:

    rubberjohn wrote: If I recall correctly the Doyle medical centre is designated as a regional trauma centre and, as such, would be expected to have a landing area for emergency air ambulance helicopters.

    John.

    Kettlekorn wrote: Yeah, but the problem is that a supersonic jet requires significantly more runway than a helicopter. Unless it's VTOL, but it hasn't been stated whether this aircraft is VTOL.

    Berlin isn't far from Whateley. The jet could land at the airport and transfer the patients to a helicopter or warper for the final leg of the journey.


    :oops: This jet is VOTL. ... How fast can Warpers Warp?


    Its not how fast but how far. Of course if they worked in tandem I would think they could move people pretty far.

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  • Ib12us wrote:

    Malady wrote:

    rubberjohn wrote: If I recall correctly the Doyle medical centre is designated as a regional trauma centre and, as such, would be expected to have a landing area for emergency air ambulance helicopters.

    John.

    Kettlekorn wrote: Yeah, but the problem is that a supersonic jet requires significantly more runway than a helicopter. Unless it's VTOL, but it hasn't been stated whether this aircraft is VTOL.

    Berlin isn't far from Whateley. The jet could land at the airport and transfer the patients to a helicopter or warper for the final leg of the journey.


    :oops: This jet is VOTL. ... How fast can Warpers Warp?


    Its not how fast but how far. Of course if they worked in tandem I would think they could move people pretty far.


    Speed covers distance too? Also, could most/enough Warpers manage a gurney with IV?
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  • Valentine wrote: Ribbon's son takes seconds and he took his sister to Paris.


    That Warper level might be really rare?
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  • If you re-read the intro story for Sara, ARC has access to sub-orbital transport plans that delivered Sara to them from Sydney. If it's a medical emergency it's more likely ARC and their sub-orbital transports would be used to get them to ARC and its medical resources, then they would organise the transfer to Whateley when proper accomodation in (I assume) Hawthorn were complete to take them.
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