Question Generation 2 Conjecture
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With Generation 2 coming out on Monday 
I feel it's important to have a place for wild mass guessing, and conjecture with the very few clues we have.
So first who thinks Carson will still be Headmistress?
Since this is suppose to be fairly separate from Gen 1, doubt they'll be brining in big characters from the original, so I'm going to say no. I'm thinking they'll use a teacher we know about, but hasn't had much face time, like the Indian shop teacher in A Single Fold.
Will Poe be a secret still, an open secret, or really truly for the students who need the extra mental support?
I've got no clue here.
Will rocket packs and hover boards finally be open for the mass public?
They'd better be, I want my jetpack.
We know H1 is still around, how powerful do you think it is? And will Evolution Rocks, finally be something more than a casual mention and easily ignored?
I feel it's important to have a place for wild mass guessing, and conjecture with the very few clues we have.So first who thinks Carson will still be Headmistress?
Since this is suppose to be fairly separate from Gen 1, doubt they'll be brining in big characters from the original, so I'm going to say no. I'm thinking they'll use a teacher we know about, but hasn't had much face time, like the Indian shop teacher in A Single Fold.
Will Poe be a secret still, an open secret, or really truly for the students who need the extra mental support?
I've got no clue here.
Will rocket packs and hover boards finally be open for the mass public?
They'd better be, I want my jetpack.
We know H1 is still around, how powerful do you think it is? And will Evolution Rocks, finally be something more than a casual mention and easily ignored?
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All I will say is that I was surprised Tink was the teacher for Team Tactics... 
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While I know that this is 'mostly' silly guessing games; something to keep in mind when speculating on G2 stories is that the entire premise is for the second timeline to operate nearly independently from the one ten years prior to it. They are separated by enough time that only career educators/staff will still be at Whateley, anyone there for a rotation off the 'front lines' white or black hat-wise will have moved on to their next thing. People who were students will have graduated, and gotten a start on their adult life... but mostly, will not yet have the experience or education needed to return to Whateley to teach or administrate. And that's important not only because it gives the G2 authors new characters to work with and not to simply do the cameo barrage that is so common in fan fiction; but it also means that you don't read a G2 story and immediately know what happened to all the G1 characters who have not yet resolved their plotlines.
So... guesses that include things like characters X, Y, and Z from Gen 1 2006-2007 being teachers in Gen 2 2016-2017... not only break the basic premise of preventing this from being an alternate universe... they don't even make sense from a 'how education works' perspective. For instance: a Gen 1 freshman in '06-'07 graduates from high school in May 2010. They begin a college degree program for an Education degree in their specialization field (Math, Science, Social Studies, or English) in the Fall 2010... and most likely, they will graduate with the basic Bachelor's of Science in Education in 2014. At that point of time, their only classroom experience is student teaching... which is generally not much more than a several weeks in front of the classroom and several more as a teacher's assistant observing classroom technique. A grad student TA often gets more experience in one semester than that... but rarely has any of the preparatory training (or especially not the developmental learning/ed psych side of things). And neither one of these has any outside life experience... and in the case of Whateley teachers, being able to handle the "being a mutant" side with "being a teacher, or student" side is somewhat critical.
In other words, you won't find many 'new' teachers on the Whateley rosters. Not in the traditional sense. You're far more likely to find a hero getting out of the 'game' or a villain trying to build a new life who went back and got a teaching degree, filling those 'newbie' teacher contracts instead of a 23-25 year old. And you're definitely not going to be able to go down through the Gen 2 faculty/staff listings and read it like a who's who from the Gen 1 PoV character lists.
We're better than that.
So... guesses that include things like characters X, Y, and Z from Gen 1 2006-2007 being teachers in Gen 2 2016-2017... not only break the basic premise of preventing this from being an alternate universe... they don't even make sense from a 'how education works' perspective. For instance: a Gen 1 freshman in '06-'07 graduates from high school in May 2010. They begin a college degree program for an Education degree in their specialization field (Math, Science, Social Studies, or English) in the Fall 2010... and most likely, they will graduate with the basic Bachelor's of Science in Education in 2014. At that point of time, their only classroom experience is student teaching... which is generally not much more than a several weeks in front of the classroom and several more as a teacher's assistant observing classroom technique. A grad student TA often gets more experience in one semester than that... but rarely has any of the preparatory training (or especially not the developmental learning/ed psych side of things). And neither one of these has any outside life experience... and in the case of Whateley teachers, being able to handle the "being a mutant" side with "being a teacher, or student" side is somewhat critical.
In other words, you won't find many 'new' teachers on the Whateley rosters. Not in the traditional sense. You're far more likely to find a hero getting out of the 'game' or a villain trying to build a new life who went back and got a teaching degree, filling those 'newbie' teacher contracts instead of a 23-25 year old. And you're definitely not going to be able to go down through the Gen 2 faculty/staff listings and read it like a who's who from the Gen 1 PoV character lists.
We're better than that.
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While I will acknowledge that most student teachers will not have the education background to serve in Whateley given only 10 years have passed, I will say that my step-daughter started teaching regular classes fresh from graduating college with a degree in school education. This was done in 6 years and with a two year 'wasted' period after she re-evaluated what she wanted to do in life.
No she didn't teach high schoolers. In fact she stated that many schools 'frown' upon hiring women or men her age due to the complications that could result with only about 6-7 years apart. During her time in school she was assigned to a elementary school none to far from the college itself as with several other students. She complained bitterly about how after doing this while in her Junior year she was acting more in the role of the 'teacher' then the teacher themselves. She was evaluated on lesson plans, curriculum and so forth. The major complaint was how 'little' the school supplied the necessary material to educate the students themselves. After graduating she ended up (and this was even before she graduated) with several job offers to work at many of the local schools.
She ended up teaching in a kindergarten class whereas she wished to have been working with 5th - 6th graders. She worked there for several years and only left after one of the students 'threatened' her bodily harm. Mind you this is from a kindergarten student.
So it would in essence be possible, but not highly probable to teach. So one of the major factors is age. No school will intentionally hire someone with so close of proximity of age of the students. This would cause unwanted problems.
So while I have my 'fun' with guessing who may still be teaching at Whateley my expectations are nowhere willing to guess that any of the previous students would be around as a teacher.
And as the critic in Ratatouille said at the end of the movie when asked what he wanted for his meal, I look forward to the 'surprise' of what awaits when it is served.
And I do so hope that 'if' any of the previous students do show up in some shape or form, I do hope so its done more for a sense of purpose than for gratification reasons.
No she didn't teach high schoolers. In fact she stated that many schools 'frown' upon hiring women or men her age due to the complications that could result with only about 6-7 years apart. During her time in school she was assigned to a elementary school none to far from the college itself as with several other students. She complained bitterly about how after doing this while in her Junior year she was acting more in the role of the 'teacher' then the teacher themselves. She was evaluated on lesson plans, curriculum and so forth. The major complaint was how 'little' the school supplied the necessary material to educate the students themselves. After graduating she ended up (and this was even before she graduated) with several job offers to work at many of the local schools.
She ended up teaching in a kindergarten class whereas she wished to have been working with 5th - 6th graders. She worked there for several years and only left after one of the students 'threatened' her bodily harm. Mind you this is from a kindergarten student.
So it would in essence be possible, but not highly probable to teach. So one of the major factors is age. No school will intentionally hire someone with so close of proximity of age of the students. This would cause unwanted problems.
So while I have my 'fun' with guessing who may still be teaching at Whateley my expectations are nowhere willing to guess that any of the previous students would be around as a teacher.
And as the critic in Ratatouille said at the end of the movie when asked what he wanted for his meal, I look forward to the 'surprise' of what awaits when it is served.
And I do so hope that 'if' any of the previous students do show up in some shape or form, I do hope so its done more for a sense of purpose than for gratification reasons.
What is - was. What was - is.
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I've been onboard the idea that Eldritch will most likely replace Gunny for some time now. The only other option would be somebody even more sadistic. 
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That depends upon which of Gunny's jobs you mean. I doubt that Eldritch would take over the JROTC program, Eldritch isn't legally a military Veteran.
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Ametros wrote: I've been onboard the idea that Eldritch will most likely replace Gunny for some time now. The only other option would be somebody even more sadistic.
That depends upon which of Gunny's jobs you mean. I doubt that Eldritch would take over the JROTC program, Eldritch isn't legally a military Veteran.
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The JROTC I overlooked. What I had in mind was specifically Gunny's rank on the range, and his involvement with the sims (through Team Tactics) and arenas.
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Valentine wrote:
Ametros wrote: I've been onboard the idea that Eldritch will most likely replace Gunny for some time now. The only other option would be somebody even more sadistic.
That depends upon which of Gunny's jobs you mean. I doubt that Eldritch would take over the JROTC program, Eldritch isn't legally a military Veteran.
The JROTC I overlooked. What I had in mind was specifically Gunny's rank on the range, and his involvement with the sims (through Team Tactics) and arenas.
Seriously, thank you for your time and effort. It is appreciated.
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We're not supposed to make guesses involving Jade.
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Nagrij wrote: This looks fun. I conjecture that at some point, zombies will fill the streets and do the macarena.
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You just know at least one student will have built a working Portal gun...
...and at least attempted to persuade the Sim crew to program in the Aperture Science building...
AJG Consolidated will almost certainly still be around, but unless you keep a close eye on the stock market, you probably won't know they exist, since pretty much everything they do will be carried out via subsidiaries.
Visitors to the Karedonian Imperial Palace will probably encounter at least one Drow Babe.
It's remotely possible the phonebook will contain an entry for ACME Babysitting Services, whose website features an extensive number of portrayals of a certain Sanrio character...
Charlie Darrow may still be maintaining a zombie army in the sewers of Boston - unless he's moved operations to Nebraska
...and at least attempted to persuade the Sim crew to program in the Aperture Science building...
AJG Consolidated will almost certainly still be around, but unless you keep a close eye on the stock market, you probably won't know they exist, since pretty much everything they do will be carried out via subsidiaries.
Visitors to the Karedonian Imperial Palace will probably encounter at least one Drow Babe.
It's remotely possible the phonebook will contain an entry for ACME Babysitting Services, whose website features an extensive number of portrayals of a certain Sanrio character...
Charlie Darrow may still be maintaining a zombie army in the sewers of Boston - unless he's moved operations to Nebraska
As the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only left-handers are in their right mind!
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Speculation: By 2010, Stan and Morrie have wisely retired. Unable to find suitable replacements, Whateley turns to its students for help....
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Edit, It also serves a job search site that caters to civilian mutants and a market site for Devisors, Gadgeteers, Enchanters and the like to sell their wears,
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Through a chain of Subsidiaries of AJG Consolidated exists a growing network for hero groups to trade notes, equipment/upgrades, and favors with one another, all anyone notices that isn't a part of it, is that superhero groups seem to have become more effective and play together better.mittfh wrote: You just know at least one student will have built a working Portal gun...
...and at least attempted to persuade the Sim crew to program in the Aperture Science building...
AJG Consolidated will almost certainly still be around, but unless you keep a close eye on the stock market, you probably won't know they exist, since pretty much everything they do will be carried out via subsidiaries.
Visitors to the Karedonian Imperial Palace will probably encounter at least one Drow Babe.
It's remotely possible the phonebook will contain an entry for ACME Babysitting Services, whose website features an extensive number of portrayals of a certain Sanrio character...
Charlie Darrow may still be maintaining a zombie army in the sewers of Boston - unless he's moved operations to Nebraska
Edit, It also serves a job search site that caters to civilian mutants and a market site for Devisors, Gadgeteers, Enchanters and the like to sell their wears,
Any Bad Ideas I have and microscene OC character stories are freely adoptable.
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On a more serious note, what about a pretty who isn't? Their features are beautiful, but instead of being attractive they dive straight down to the bottom of Uncanny Valley and lurk there... waiting.
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A Whingdingdilly!JG wrote: If we included Adam in Gen 2, what would he be?
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On a more serious note, what about a pretty who isn't? Their features are beautiful, but instead of being attractive they dive straight down to the bottom of Uncanny Valley and lurk there... waiting.
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Oh! I know that happened to Carson and the others! They were softly and suddenly vanished away... there must be a
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I put forward a motion that the cause of Carson's disappearance, be it an event, person, group, or beasty, be referred to as the Tunnel Boojum (TB for short) until such time as which we know its proper name.
I put forward a motion that the cause of Carson's disappearance, be it an event, person, group, or beasty, be referred to as the Tunnel Boojum (TB for short) until such time as which we know its proper name.
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Financier and Sidewinder Holdings are one thing, but who is the student Future Business Leader of America in Gen 2 (aka, Gen 2's Ayla)?
Who is the best person students would go to for advice? Like who Laura talks to in order to start her babysitting, housekeeping, and laundry service as an LLC?
I don't think it is any of the main cast. Janine is more of a secretary for Bianca. I suppose Tia has her Bunny contacts...
Who is the best person students would go to for advice? Like who Laura talks to in order to start her babysitting, housekeeping, and laundry service as an LLC?
I don't think it is any of the main cast. Janine is more of a secretary for Bianca. I suppose Tia has her Bunny contacts...
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I'll give you a hint: He's been shown, he's Alpha King and GK head.
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Katssun wrote: Financier and Sidewinder Holdings are one thing, but who is the student Future Business Leader of America in Gen 2 (aka, Gen 2's Ayla)?
Who is the best person students would go to for advice? Like who Laura talks to in order to start her babysitting, housekeeping, and laundry service as an LLC?
I don't think it is any of the main cast. Janine is more of a secretary for Bianca. I suppose Tia has her Bunny contacts...
I'll give you a hint: He's been shown, he's Alpha King and GK head.
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