Question Christmas Elves

“Yes, but it’s there. Whereas the image the Peeper and Greasy managed to copy is saying none of that. I’m not entirely sure what message they’re sending—”

Toni finally spoke up. “Time to flog the dolphin!” she suggested.

“Er, you may be right,” Poise admitted, a bit flustered.

Toni turned a page in her book. “Naturally.”

Nikki left, closing the door behind her. Toni turned another page in her book.

“Of course,” she agreed.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

Malady wrote:

Christmas Elves, Jade's hypothetical conversation wrote: I heard how if, like, both parents are mutants and using their powers and stuff, then the kids are pretty likely to end up with powers, too?

... Is that pulled directly from the Braeburn Report , which was only released... about 2 days ago, in-universe? Dr. Messing gets the Braeburn report on December 16, 2006, and Christmas Elves starts on December 18, 2006. Is that long enough that Jade could have found the info or something? Or did she come up with the idea herself? Or coincidence or the idea not being that old... Part of that research into the viability of a mutant babysitting service??

... Maybe I'm just climbing an Epileptic Tree...

"Mutations" are a DNA thing, that's what the name means. It almost seems to be a recursive gene (would need an original canon Author to confirm). So, like hair colour, its something you can carry but not necessarily will it activate for you. Think of it like red hair. You can get red haired children from parents with other hair colours, because the red-haired gene can be carried and not active in the parents. Buts its incredibly rare to have two red haired parents and their offspring not red haired too.

Basically if both your parents have active versions of the mutant gene, it certainly greatly increases the chances the offspring will as well.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

Malady wrote: Is Hekate's debt to the iron elementals voided due to the non-death of her targets? ... I don't think so, as I think the contract is just to call them up? ... And then there's the duplicate that she made... Which might affect her contracts...

It was a summoning spell. She called not one, but three iron elementals. ... Her promised payment was extreme, given the circumstances and the need to overcome the elf’s influence. But she mystically bound herself to the contract, calling for the death of the elf and her friend, and then the destruction of everything else that lived in the hangar. That was the sort of open-ended contract an elemental could wax poetic about, had they the mental capacity.

Hmm, I suppose it would be dependant on the exact contract, but this seemed to be a summoning to me. Usually a summoning is about both summoning and binding the summoned creature, the usefulness in a summoning is in the binding. i.e. Elemental flame creatures like to burn things, as in, burn the whole world. When summoning them, the trick is to limit what they can burn to only those things you want destroyed and nothing else, the nature of the elemental flame creature should then take over and solve the problem.

I would suspect in this case, the limitations of the summoning where that they could only burn "the elf and her friend, and then the destruction of everything else that lived in the hangar".

i.e. the "cost" was for the summoning and the binding, the actual wanted result was something the elementals would do anyway. Unfortunately for Hekate, the elementals loved Fey and would not burn her, or anyone Fey vouched for, so she would be paying the price, but not getting the results she wanted.

Another way to look at it, it's in the elemental's nature to burn things. If they are summoned to our reality and bound so that only a very few things are possible for them to burn, that's what they'll burn, but its their choice. Imagine if you will humans being summoned to a feast and then barriers being placed around most of the food, you'd eat what was left, but you don't have to. If someone left a plate of rotted raw Brussel sprouts un-protected, I sure wouldn't be eating it, even if there was nothing else unbarriered to eat.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Hekate summoned both, Fey laughed herself silly then did a dance and pulled the Fire Elementals from Hekate's control.

Nikki couldn’t believe it, didn’t want to believe it. The rats had been a weak defense, but to see them obliterated so easily… And now those frightful nozzles were lining up on her! Her human mind cringed in terror… but an older part of her laughed in delight.

“Calm yourself child.” Aunghadhail reassured Nikki then let out a gleeful laugh. Aloud, Nikki’s voice spoke with Aunghadhail’s tones, in delighted disbelief. “They’re attacking me with fire?”

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Opps, sorry, my mistake, just re-read it.

But ignore that and go back to the Iron golem, its still a form of earth elemental and all the sacrifices are to summon and bind it (in this case to the forms Hekate prepared for them).

Hekate can give them commands, but the "payment" is for the summoning, the "contract" is a summoning, not an "assassination" or anything. Them coming and being bound "completes" their compact, after that they are just obeying Hekate as part of the binding process, not as part of the compact.

Valentine wrote:

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Opps, sorry, my mistake, just re-read it.

But ignore that and go back to the Iron golem, its still a form of earth elemental and all the sacrifices are to summon and bind it (in this case to the forms Hekate prepared for them).

Hekate can give them commands, but the "payment" is for the summoning, the "contract" is a summoning, not an "assassination" or anything. Them coming and being bound "completes" their compact, after that they are just obeying Hekate as part of the binding process, not as part of the compact.

Now the question is when Hekate did all the stuff to get rid of the curse, did she include all those debts and will such entities accept what happened.