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Question Murphy's Laws of Whateley

8 years 1 month ago #1 by DanZilla
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  • Murphy's Law # 1: Everything Can and Will happen to Murphy... with extreme prejudice.

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    8 years 1 month ago #2 by OtherEric
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  • I just wanted to say that this story is, in many ways, the most impressive story I've seen from JG... and one of the most impressive from any of the Whateley crew.

    That's not the same as saying it's one of the best; even just since JG came back both Ashes & Steel and The Book of Darwin are better. But it's a good story, with some very powerful scenes... and it's damn near impossible to do a good catch-up montage story. A shared universe like Whateley needs them on occasion, though. So, in terms of of showing just how talented JG is, this one just blows my mind.
    8 years 1 month ago #3 by Dreamer
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  • SPOILER ALERT
    Below is a stream of conscious commentary I type up as I read the story. There will details from the story included in it. If you have not read the story yet and don't wish to have details of it spoiled, read no further.



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    8 years 1 month ago #4 by Wrayth
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  • Another awesome story, thanks, JG. Not the explosion I thought Murphy would have with the perceived betrayal, but that could still happen...

    Waiting with abated breath for the next story.
    8 years 1 month ago #5 by JG
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  • To clarify, in case it wasn't clear. The extreme power Murphy hit Fury with was not what she can casually lay out.

    That was a side-effect of her warping interacting with Fury's warping. Warpers interacting begets weirdness.

    So no, Murphy cannot casually lay out enough spatial shock force to simply lay out a brick. I'll give her enthusiasm, but not that kind of force.
    8 years 1 month ago #6 by null0trooper
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  • JG wrote: So no, Murphy cannot casually lay out enough spatial shock force to simply lay out a brick. I'll give her enthusiasm, but not that kind of force.


    :shrug:

    So she just needs bigger guns, er, munitions that is.

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    8 years 1 month ago #7 by JG
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  • Would YOU give Murphy a bigger gun????

    I'm pretty sure the giggling ALONE would signal how bad an idea that is!
    8 years 1 month ago #8 by Mister D
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  • JG wrote: Would YOU give Murphy a bigger gun????

    I'm pretty sure the giggling ALONE would signal how bad an idea that is!


    Guns, no.

    Grenades, however... :twisted:


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    8 years 1 month ago #9 by null0trooper
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  • JG wrote: Would YOU give Murphy a bigger gun????

    I'm pretty sure the giggling ALONE would signal how bad an idea that is!


    Me? Yes. Weapons handling is one of the few things she takes 100% seriously. (Ignore the fact that this ADDer was himself on his high school's rifle team.)

    In-universe? Of my OCs, one would be face-palming, as the other demonstrates proper care and feeding of his LMG, or maybe his stock assault rifle with the underslung grenade launcher.

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    8 years 1 month ago - 8 years 1 month ago #10 by Sir Lee
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  • Typo: the Brick Gym scene is dated as April 6.... 2017.
    Also, double typo: the scene starts on Friday, April 6... but the date on Phobos' certificate is April 5. Should be April 6, since it's explicitly the Friday before Spring Break.
    Also, should we infer that Brick Gym (do we have a reference for the class' official name?) took place during First Period? After all, twelve hours passed from the class to 8:37 PM.

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    8 years 1 month ago - 8 years 1 month ago #11 by Katssun
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  • Just some random thoughts here:

    I don't remember which story it was in (it was toward the end of one of them), but didn't the Fury Twins consider willfully separating from each other not too long ago? They knew the fear aura was fed by their proximity to each other, and one of them at least considered moving across the country so the both of them would have a chance to make friends. That it happened this way instead makes it all the more tragic.

    I loved that we got to see Tansy's turnaround from someone else's perspective, especially someone who hates her for all the right reasons.

    Jobe's little sarcastic outburst, “Because God only knows that being black for a day or three is a fate deserving of death!” is quite layered in context. One you have her own accident, then you have the tragedy of the twins, and third you have Murphy's slow transformation toward Vamp. Nicely written.

    Do Regenerators get progressively more blasé about being injured the more it happens? Or is it only with the higher level ones (3/4+), especially with regards to serious injuries or dismemberments? Phobos aside, Murphy just like...doesn't care at all, but she's far from the only one.
    • Take poor Misty as the baseline, dismembered in the sims. First she went into Shock (with a capital "S"), then she went berserk. As should be expected.
    • Then you have Imp, who doesn't like it, especially painful injuries like her tail, actively works to avoid it, but glad she has it. Overall, very cautious about being injured in the first place.
    • But in contrast you have Cornflower, who frequently gets into combat, and casually shrugs things off unless something interferes with it.
    • After that level, you have people like Belphy, who ignored getting stabbed because she'd been drinking, but very much went into shock like Misty when she lost a hand, even if only temporarily.
    • Compare Belphy to Jobe, who has been roughed around a great deal more, but at least has faith in the power she gave herself.
    • Or Ribbon, who got horrifically burned multiple times, but due to several near death experiences, has the deeply embedded attitude that, "Meh, could be worse."
    • Then you have Murphy, even before her "upgrade" who barely seems to care that she's been gored, pinned by rebar, limbs shattered or pulverized by bricks, sliced in the face and blinded, and loses limbs without ever losing perspective on what she has to do.
    • At the top with the rager/regens (e.g. Razorback), you have people like Sara, who just outright ignore it.
    Bricks end up with a similar mindset until weird people show up like Kayda and her bison, so do regenerators get progressively more reckless as time goes on? There are definitely some individual personalities at play, but the ones who get injured more frequently or worse seem to develop a confident or even reckless attitude.
    Last Edit: 8 years 1 month ago by Katssun. Reason: Just a few tweaks to the list.
    8 years 1 month ago - 8 years 1 month ago #12 by JG
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  • In murphy's case it's sheer volume and frequency. She hets hurt.

    A lot.

    Badly.

    Often it's her own fault. Often its random circumstance. It's not so much she doesn't care so much as she just takes it anymore. Its not fun, but unless it's immediately incapacitating?

    She just tries to gut through it. Her fear of doctors is far more refined than her fear of stab wounds.

    And yes, seeming resistance or immunity to injury begets recklessness. Regens can be no different than bricks in that vein. Especially when they have a native belligerent streak.
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    8 years 1 month ago #13 by Katssun
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  • How much of it is innate teenage recklessness though, and how much of it is actually enabled by the school?

    Imp got shot when she was young, her first serious regen-healed injury really, and it clearly made an impression that set the stage for how she acted from there on out. If anything, she got more and more cautious as she got older, a deep contrast to a lot of the superheroes. It's not like the villain side of things don't have their own doctors and shadow hospitals/clinics, and they seem to be just as good as the care the heroes get.

    Are Whateley students even more prone to developing it into recklessness because their natural ability can be quickly aided by some of the most skilled healers in the United States?

    The Whateley grads definitely seem more brash than their "I wish I knew about that school..." peers.
    8 years 1 month ago #14 by null0trooper
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  • Katssun wrote: Jobe's little sarcastic outburst, “Because God only knows that being black for a day or three is a fate deserving of death!” is quite layered in context. One you have her own accident, then you have the tragedy of the twins, and third you have Murphy's slow transformation toward Vamp. Nicely written.


    There's also the in-story context with Nacht, and the spatial warping that erebeal magic affords her. And what's up with the solid black eye? Someone or something coming through from the early days of the Bloodline?

    Jobe's response to the burnout, from conducting a personal investigation to betting that she'd survive a justified, if misdirected, blowup was well done.

    Still, I can picture a missing scene in which someone has to explain to Princess Jobe how someone can be so idiotic as to worry about dermal melanin concentrations and yet still be able to feed and dress themselves without a caregiver.

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    8 years 1 month ago #15 by DanZilla
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  • Sir Lee wrote: Typo: the Brick Gym scene is dated as April 6.... 2017.
    Also, double typo: the scene starts on Friday, April 6... but the date on Phobos' certificate is April 5. Should be April 6, since it's explicitly the Friday before Spring Break.
    Also, should we infer that Brick Gym (do we have a reference for the class' official name?) took place during First Period? After all, twelve hours passed from the class to 8:37 PM.


    Thanks Sir Lee... I was helping JG sift through the timeline to try to find a good spot for this to happen and we moved it around a bit and missed a date... and, well, 2017 happens. *fixed*
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  • Wait... If Murphy's playing with the TLW, isn't she around Clover as well? ... Well, Clover doesn't have much reason to use her powers, 'cause she's safe in the Brick Gym, so I guess Luck Warper interactions are low-chance??

    ... And we still don't know who all 10 of the Junior High Kids are... Wow. ... Now I really want to know, and wonder what's so important about them.

    ... Could one of the JH kids be one of the ones who kidnapped Vamp and Murphy?? ... Thinking it might be Nimbus and Abigail??

    The Laws are a very cool way to separate sections!

    ... Murphy can eat Warps or something? Did we know this before??

    ... Oh man, Deimos is alone 'cause Phobos died... I predicted that might be it, but still... :cry:

    ... ... I was thinking Phobos might zombify due to Murphy's proximity to her corpse, but no...

    ... ... So, Wondercute might get Hard Light stuff now... Hmm...

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    8 years 1 month ago #17 by Cryptic
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  • Damn it man, even though you didn't go into detail of Phobos's death, you had me crying. I liked her. :-(

    And I have to agree with Murphy; I always thought Lanie getting over the crap Tansy did just happened to damn fast.

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    8 years 1 month ago - 8 years 1 month ago #18 by Arcanist Lupus
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  • Malady wrote: Wait... If Murphy's playing with the TLW, isn't she around Clover as well? ... Well, Clover doesn't have much reason to use her powers, 'cause she's safe in the Brick Gym, so I guess Luck Warper interactions are low-chance??

    I think that it's been said somewhere that some manglers dampen each other rather than heterodyning. It seems to be less common than the other way around, but perhaps Murphy and Clover's powers don't hate each other?



    On a different note, why is Caitlyn in the brick class? I thought she had sworn off all physical combat with students.


    Regarding whether Whateley kids are more blase about risking their lives than "normal" mutants, I think the answer is yes. But that might also be because Whateley kids are on average more powerful than mutants who don't need to go to Whateley. Also, Whateley recognizes the problem and specifically tries to counter it with things like the Dragonslayer footage, the Razorback/Jimmy T combat final, and that big lecture where everyone got locked in and a Palm took over a murderbot.


    Also, I'm glad that nobody thought to call Jobe on the fact that he's been sitting on the details about Phobos and Deimos for months now, and didn't bother to tell anyone. His response would probably be along the lines of "I couldn't do anything to fix it, and if I couldn't nobody else could. So why bother mentioning it?" I doubt that such a statement would go over well with the Outcasts.

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    8 years 1 month ago #19 by Yolandria
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  • Cait is probably in the brick class because she's relearning how her body operates. Not to mention in one of the other stories she is also in Ito's class as well.

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  • Yolandria wrote: Cait is probably in the brick class because she's relearning how her body operates. Not to mention in one of the other stories she is also in Ito's class as well.


    Little bit of this.

    Caitlin did not like being pitted in an adversarial manner against students in environments such as the sims, because if you send in a skilled baseline into the sim with a powerful student, you're sending them in to smack said student down hard. Caitlin detests being used as the example. She did it in the past, but she hated it.

    Better to go round and round with Wilson than to beat a kid down, even if that kid is damn near bulletproof
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  • I would put it that Caitlin needs to re-tune her reflexes. Now that she's no longer a squishy baseline, she can dial down the violence in her responses to perceived attacks.
    She also knows how hard she is to stop when she goes full berserk (like in her Combat Final), so she needs better defensive options (effectively using her new strength and toughness) while she is still in a rational state, to avoid getting hurt and ending up berserk again.
    So, yes, I think she NEEDS to go to Brick Gym.

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    8 years 1 month ago #22 by Arcanist Lupus
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  • Oh, I don't think I've mentioned yet how pleased I am to see Kate getting a few more friends.

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    8 years 1 month ago #23 by Valentine
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  • Arcanist Lupus wrote: Oh, I don't think I've mentioned yet how pleased I am to see Kate getting a few more friends.


    Kate resents the implication that she has friends. Those are just people that she doesn't intentionally try to scare. :twisted:

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  • Yeah, but Kate...enjoys (gasp!) that kind of banter.
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  • The Snark Knight merely has passing sparring partners in the battle against light and hope.
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  • I believe I need to make an apology.

    Elrod, I am sorry for ever stating, insinuating or even thinking that what you do to Kayda is cruel. I was wrong...

    ...For I now know what true cruelty is, after this and Darwin. :-p

    Seriously, thank you for your time and effort. It is appreciated.
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  • Ametros wrote: ...For I now know what true cruelty is, after this and Darwin. :-p


    I have no idea what you are talking about.
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  • Yeah, what are you talking about? this is barely JG's warm up! I doubt even the cheerleaders have taken the field yet.
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  • That just leaves me wondering more about whether "Reston" will stay an in-universe noodle incident, or be written up in full-tilt sturm und squick.

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  • null0trooper wrote: That just leaves me wondering more about whether "Reston" will stay an in-universe noodle incident, or be written up in full-tilt sturm und squick.


    Reston isn't an incident.

    Reston is a Codename.

    Because the individual in Question manifested in Reston.

    It's a CDC moniker.
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