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Question The Banshee's Tale
- elrodw
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Never give up, Never surrender! Captain Peter Quincy Taggert
- Malady
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“Oh, that went well...”
[OH! Brave references! Wait... So in Whateley, Brave is based off of Laneth's story, instead of the other way around!]
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“Kemosabe? Way to not play into the stereotypes, Chief.”
“Hush, you!” Kayda snapped with only slight annoyance. “Or I'll stick you out front with a handful of cigars.”
Hard Sell arched an eyebrow in a fair imitation of The Rock. “How?” he demanded, his tone dripping innuendo.
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Mind blown, Tansy had thought at the time.
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Prue, honey, new you, new problems!
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“Adam, your testicles are reporting they're over heating a bit. Boxers, not briefs, brother.”
In a somewhat dreamy tone of voice, Adam replied, “Ok, Kody.”
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The monk softly chanted to himself several times until he was certain he had committed the missive to memory. Looking up, he declared, “I shall deliver so, my lady. What token shall I take to the Duke?”
Laneth smiled coyly, leaned forward and kissed the monk full on the mouth.
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“Be at ease, man, I'll not send ye out till the morning. This missive will take thought.” He scratched his head and frowned. “What token did she send with ye?”
The monk grimaced, then stood, bowed again, then seized the Duke and kissed him. His shout of startled anger turned into peels of laughter and he couldn't restrain himself from dancing a jig.
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“Then I will accept your offer, with two conditions: first that not only is he not given any discount on that tuition, but he is be charged the absolute maximum, including any and all possible fees and charges that might in any way be applicable to Tansy's schooling.
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“During the tour you were so kind as to give me, I met a, um, large ... teacher ... in your engineering department. I think cars were his speciality ...? ”
Mrs. Carson and Tansy jerked in surprise. “Mr. Donner?” Tansy demanded.
“Melvin Donner?” Mrs. Carson corrected. “What about him?
“Is he seeing anyone?”
“I don't believe Melvin is romantically involved, why?” Mrs. Carson asked with a gimlet eye.
“My second condition is I want his phone number,” Marrisa replied with a smile.
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October 1st, 2007
Melville Cottage, Room 803, Whateley Academy
Wyatt opened the door to his room to find a minilla envelope had been shoved under his door. Frowning, he sniffed and found the scent of both his fiancee and his mistress (he noted to himself he needed a better term for Tansy) on the mailer strong enough that she must have been holding it not more than a few minutes ago. He looked back out in the hall, but of course it had been empty when he'd walked here from the elevator.
Closing the door he picked it up and saw Tansy's penmanship on the side that had been face down. Intrigued he read...
Wyatt:
I told you I could do better...
xoxo Your future wives
Frowning and curious, he unthreaded the mailer and raised the flap. Inside was a single eight and a half by eleven inch, glossy color photograph. In it were Elaine and Tansy laying next to each other and locked in a passionate kiss. Elaine in a reddish orange fur coat and Tansy in a grayish white one.
Neither wore anything else.
Wyatt grunted as his jeans became uncomfortably tight and he began thinking about how he would have this photograph framed so he could put it where he would see it every day.
[How very 'Goodkinds don't complain, they fix things'...]
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Galan sighed and drank himself. Into his tankard, he admitted, “Drest, mac Talorgan, has offered up a bride price for her by the hand of Brother Calvert as his herald.”
Aine's frown deepened. “Should I be insulted?”
“He sent a silver comb and broach, both master works, three garnets the size of my thumb and two gold marks.” That seemed to please Aine and she smiled and sat back, unconsciously spreading her knees.
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I was man enough to deflower you
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“I'm sorry, did I break your concentration?” the young man snarled. “You were saying something about selling myself short? Oh, you were finished? Well, do I fucking ''need'' to retort, pretty boy?” he shouted. “Who wants to wake up to this? Huh? Tell me that, Mr Big Fucking Man on Campus!”
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The molten face shrugged and looked away. “I...the chemistry teacher makes me take my hand off so the...stuff...can be analyzed in class. She's seen that. I say my whole body does it, but I think you're the only person that's seen this much, other... Other than my folks, and they... I...I shower at night, so...” Adam began to sob and heedless of his clothing, Wyatt reached out and took the boy into a hug. The simple, human gesture was one of the first Adam had ever known since he had manifested and he wept for twenty minutes.
[Awww! Adam's getting some niceness his way!]
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leading the other boy past the nurses' station only remarking as he passed one of the preoccupied Nurses, “Be so kind as to pull Adam Lamberts file and bring it to exam three.”
The Nurse was far too used to obeying requests in that tone of voice.
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Signing in with Mrs. Horton she got the gimlet eye, but gave her a 'scouts honor' salute in return, then took the packages upstairs. She knocked and was startled by the look of Elaine's face when she opened the door, it was pale and drawn. “Lanie, are you alright?” she asked, concerned.
The redhead forced a smile and stepped aside to let Tansy in. The fan in her bathroom was running, but the smell of sickness was still in the air. “Ah ate something that disagreed with me, or something,” she said, closing the door and picking up the can of ginger ale to take another sip. “Ah'll be alright in a bit. You look lovely! Just come from church?”
[Lanie's Pregnant, perhaps? ]
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palpable resistance of the strongest non-psychic mind she had ever encountered.
[You sure she's not a Psi, Tansy?]
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The 80s bad girl leaned against the doors and blew a massive bubble from the gum she was chewing. “I'm Rebellion,”
[A lot more self-recognizable mental parts... Interesting. I guess its a part of Tansy's interface specifics? Or Psis vs. Magic? See when she Dived with Kayda.]
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From the darkness strode Maternal Rage. “Coward!” she shouted. “Look at what you have done! What you allowed! Our Daughter is a grown woman and the twisted masterpiece of a man you ''knew'' you should not have married!”
“Mommy said it was a good match,” Fear muttered. “That I would grow to love him like she did daddy...”
“What?” shouted Tenant in disbelief. “Are you saying Atlantis created the MGC?”
“Among other things,” the Kodiak replied. “We were desperate, but obviously not infallible.” The Kodiak made a series of sweeping gestures and a molecular model appeared and floated in the air. “Is your chemistry department able to synthesize this? There is no magic component, simply a selective hormone uptake inhibitor.”
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The heavy, luxurious curtain rose to reveal a motion picture screen and a slide of a power point presentation appeared on it. “As you may know the legitimate existence of magic was first legally recognized by the Holy Roman Emperor Charlemagne in his Codice Iuris, establishing laws governing the use of magic, consequences for the misuses of magic and a set of proscribed and court sanctioned magical applications. What had been a patchwork of common law and folk practice became one of the first sciences. These laws, with some addition or subtle alteration have been handed down through the Western Occult Tradition to us here in the United States. I bring this up because as scholars it is our instictive first reaction to be skeptical of fantastic claims, so to dissuade you of such notions and to save our question and answer time for the most productive it can be, I present to you my Sorcerors License, as issued by the Department of Paranormal Affairs...Oh, I didn't realize it expires next year! Note to myself!”
- Mister D
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Yes.
Chewy.
Measure Twice
- Mister D
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Long-term Back-story Infill. - Implications, both past and future.
Chewy.
Measure Twice
- mhalpern
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Any Bad Ideas I have and microscene OC character stories are freely adoptable.
- Rose Bunny
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High-Priestess of the Order of Spirit-Chan
- Sir Lee
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Also, there are probably situations where introducing oneself as "Tansy Walcutt" would be convenient -- there are perks associated with the name.
There might come a point where Tansy will do it -- but it will be calculated to cause maximum embarrassment to her father, by very publicly disowning him, and giving a truckload of reasons why she's disassociating herself from him.
- Dreamer
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Below is a stream of conscious commentary I type up as I read the story. There will details from the story included in it. If you have not read the story yet and don't wish to have details of it spoiled, read no further.
The Banshee's Tale comments
Cool picture of Laneth, love the outfit and gear. Murdered at the age of 27, ouch, thought she was in her early 30s at least when she was killed. These scholars need to listen and not aggravate Laneth, suggesting she can't read and write, ugh. All that learning and education, sounds like she was better educated by her eras standard than college students now. Calling her a little slip of a girl, a figure like hers at 5'11" and called a little slip of a girl, whoever said that is nuts. Yelling all those questions at the same time, like a bunch of children who can't be patient. Interesting pieces of history about things from her time in the Whateley Universe.
Dr. Betty Markheim, nice look to her and love the Charlie Brown piece, more psychiatrists need a bank like that on their desk.

Galan, village chief of Morlock, asking Brother Calvert to repeat a message. A message from Drest, mac Talorgan, duke of Loch Linn Garan, asking for Laneth's hand in marriage, uh oh. Joan, Laneth's mother, ask what gift were offered. Expensive gifts, but Laneth is upset that a man more than double her 16 winters thinks she can be bought and sold with bobbles like a common tavern whore, there is that fiery temper. Having to come and try to win her hand in person, Laneth even yelling at her father that she won't do it and he can't make her.
And a lecture by Joan to Galan about coddling Laneth and letting her mix and mingle with the Sisters of the Bean Sith. Galan still thinks he can convince Laneth, oh boy. Mucking the horse's stall and muttering angrily to herself, I would turn around right now. Ouch, slapping her for a sharp sting, things were different back then. Getting her to make amends with her mother and Brother Calvert, she did almost bite off the head of the messenger.
Laneth as a queen, I agree with her, too fiery a spirit to do that. Aine, the most senior of the Bean Sith, is who gave Laneth her ideas of romance and what a man should do to win her heart. Given those choices, I can see why she chose to take the Oaths and become a full Sister of the Blade.
Tansy wanting a revealed truth spell from Kayda, thinking Dr. Markheim and everyone else is yanking her around when she just wishes to help her mother. Go into her mind and fix her, I think that is a bad idea, not even sure Louis could do it without risk to himself and Tansy's mom. Make her mom see she isn't sick, like Kayda did with showing Tansy she was sabotaging herself, oh boy. This could get messy fast. Ugh, Dr. Markheim saying her vision quest was just all images in her mind, deals with mutants and such yet doesn't believe Tansy when she says she talked to Eagle.
Kidding around like that using the Lone Ranger, even I know what Tonto means. *groans* Kayda should know never to give an opening to Hard Sell, he takes and runs with it worse than some of us on the forums with such a straight line.

Mrs. Horton approves of Tansy and Lanie's relationship, whoa. Even suspect of Tansy and Lanie sharing Wyatt and approves of that too, Mrs. Horton is full of surprises. Mrs. Horton wishing to be with Mrs. Savage, those kind of fantasies, if the other students knew... A family together with Lanie and Wyatt, both of them mothers, Tansy has interesting fantasies as well. Nice look for Prudence, Adam shy again after seeing her like that, that boy needs to be hit upside the head with a clue bat. Adam Lambert and Prue wants to do all those things with him, girl has it bad. Voice of experience for Prue, nice to have Tansy helping her get Adam.
That longhouse is like a fortress.
Dang, Aine is like that and Laneth has been hanging around with her, no wonder her mother worries. *facepalms* There is bravery and just dang stubborn foolishness. Tempting Joan's ire is the latter. Asking her to turn away Laneth when she shows up to face the trials and swear the oaths, too far old man."Come in, Galan," she greeted in her full voice. My door and knees always open for you!"
Oh boy, this is getting intense, she would have been Laneth's mother and Galan's wife if not for Galan's father bought Joan. Ouch, to be together they would have had to run off, clanless and pennyless. Painful subject for Aine, even almost driving Galan away if she hadn't guided him back to the bench to sit. Wishing his daughter to have a safe life not filled with battle and perhaps to become queen one day, understandable but if Laneth finds out oh boy. And duty and tradition tie her hands, so she won't turn Laneth away.
Tansy with Wyatt.
I don't there is a man alive with the stamina to keep up with both Lanie and Tansy at the same time."Because we both love the little whine you make when you realize we aren't done with you," she purred, her finger drawing little designs in the perspiration on his chest.
Getting Wyatt to talk to Greasy about Prue Tavori aka Chemtrail, and Wyatt brings up the theory that Greasy has a thing for Peeper. Tansy in nothing but a mink coat and smile, now there would be a sight to see. Hope things go well with Greasy.
Wyatt gets ticked at Peeper for saying he didn't make the poster of Lanie in the shower. Ah, fund raiser spring term final project for Venus, Inc. and Lanie in dressed like Mario, red overalls and all from the description. Greasy so nervous to go with Wyatt, poor kid, hanging around Peeper hasn't been good for his rep. Bwahahaha, asking Adam that way, Wyatt can be blunt when he wants to hurry things up.
Awww, poor guy thinks he doesn't have anything to offer Prue or anyone else. Tears his covering and he starts leaking his namesake, asking who would want to wake up to that. Prue knows about the stuff Greasy generates, from the chemistry teacher making him take off the cover from his hand, yet still has the hots for him. Atlantis magic help with Greasy's problem, hope it can, that would help the poor boy a lot.
Boy, they take their ceremonies and rituals for oaths serious, all of the order of Bean Sith there. Cutting her clothes off and her father responding that way, more and more I'm impressed with the things they go through. Tied to a crucifix and iron brands with magic woven into them as part of the trials, that oath, whoa. 2nd and larger brand and another oath, yet Aine still thinks she can get Laneth to say mercy, only to get a savage headbutt from Laneth, epic. Scourges, yikes. That is one of the most intense rituals and oaths to join an order I've ever seen.
Essence to swallow, a probe spell and stabilizing agent and mild sedative all in one, Kodiak goes all out for his patients. Male Dr. Tenant upset at Kodiak practicing medicine in Doyle, oh brother. The probe part of that spell is very impressive, all those details that quickly. *eyes bug out* If that level of non-invasive analysis of a patient could be duplicated by technology, say a gadgeteer, it would cause a leap of light-years in medical technology.
Atlantis created the Meta Gene Complex! A treatment that will stop him from producing the mucus, won't affect his gadgeteering talent, may be some side effects but he will have to take it for the rest of his life. Shoot, I agree with Adam, I wouldn't care if a solution was found.Adam is missing the interface linkage between the power his Meta Gene Complex has manifested, and the needed connections between his pores, his nervous system, and his brain to control it. So the pores are defaulted 'on' and just keep generating his mucus."
Clothes for herself and something for Lanie as well since they are the same size, red for her, blue for Lanie. Wonder what she got. Sleep over with Lanie, doubt Mrs. Nelson would allow it, especially if she talked to Mrs. Horton about them.
Tansy going to sermons by Reverend Englund, why torture yourself like that, even if he is more subdued now. Excited that she practically skips to Poe, anyone seeing that would try to get photos for evidence it happened later. Lanie sick, says she ate something that disagreed with her, I'm thinking since she valued Mrs. Carson's life so much that she defied orders and broke the Sorcerer's contract, it insured she would have new life to take care of it and it's morning sickness. Just a guess.
Something from Stephans of Beverly Hills, now that is expensive. And Stephan actually wants to custom design something for Lanie and a photo of her in what he handpicked for her for the website, dang. Red Fox Fur coat, fur on both sides, long enough to fall to Lanie's knee and a hood to encompass her head. Close to Tansy's birthday, wonder what they are going to do on the actual day. And blue fox fur coat like Lanie's Red Fox Fur coat, nice. Don't like real fur most of the time, but for some reason I like them with the coats, so conflicted. Take the photo in the Venus Inc. clubhouse, Tansy, what potentially naughty idea do you have.
Male Dr. Tenant, Kodiak and Mrs. Carson there for when Adam tries the drug for the first time. And how to impress the staff of Doyle in one easy step, that probe spell. Good, anyone else with the patients issue can be treated with the drug, but nothing else. No hair and greyish colored skin due to the grease staining his skin, but he can see his real face again. So glad something good happened for Greasy.
Laneth asking how she can make amends to Brother Calvert, things go well. Excellently worded message to return to Drest, if he harms the messenger because he is displeased he is a fool. Dang! A kiss on the monk's mouth to take as a token back to Drest, even more bold now.
Dr. Markheim, on Tansy's side now and with proper supervision by Louis, Tansy can go into her mother's mind to help her see she has nothing to fear. October 1st for the first attempt, hope it goes well, for Tansy and her mother's sake.
Dr. Chris Summers saying how hard it is treat Munchhausen Syndrome, Tansy not listening as she is focused on helping her mom. Her mom is very bad shape, physically and mentally, Tansy having to see her in this state for the first time. The way she reacts to Tansy, it is like she doesn't realize how much time has passed. Dang, got me tearing up at seeing Tansy fighting to reach her mother, saying she is going to save her mommy.
Boy, her mother's mind is fighting back, even creating faceless defenders to drive Tansy out. That courtroom in her mother's mind, Tansy's father from 10 years ago the prosecutor and her mother the Defense attorney, covered in chains and gagged, this is worse than a nightmare. Her mom's Rebellion is in control due to the reflection of her father able to do anything with the judge being blinded. Great, Fear of Being Sick messed up Drive and nobody has seen Self-Respect in years, how powerful is this monster of the mind.
Whoa, blows away the representation of her father like that and going after Drive. Drive free and now to get Fear of Being Sick off the Throne of Self. Ouch, Guilt there and knows Tansy, even that she is 18 years old now. Trying to get through to her mother, to let her know she needs her mom back and her help. Maternal Rage shows up, ticked at the voice of her husband for what the real one did to Tansy and made her do.
Confronting Fear finally, all out of fear of getting sick and needing to be there for her little flower. All those fragments of her personality coming together to pull the medical devices from Fear, finally fearing her. Dang, got me crying again, seeing Tansy finally reunited with her mother and her mother's mind clear for the first time in 10 years.
The Monk delivers the message and Drest is a moron, thinking that wooing her first for men of 'lesser' stations. Ugh, he still thinks he has a chance to get Laneth as his bride, arrogant man. And the Monk actually kissed Drest as the token Laneth sent back to Drest, giving him more hope, *groans*
Marissa Dawson, done with Theodore Walcutt, good. Trust fund from her parents, getting to know Tansy and Tansy getting to meet her grandparents, excellent. Divorce settlement and alimony, hope she takes him for more than half, he deserves worse. Criminal lawyer for Whateley, ooo, seeing her get to hang around Tansy more at school and having a job and learning how much the world has changed in 10 years, take the job, please.
I like her.Marissa considered that for some time, finally she said, "My Ex pays my daughters tuition, yes?" Mrs. Carson nodded. "Then I will accept your offer with two conditions: first that you not only is he not given any discount on that tuition, but that he is be charged the absolute maximum, including any and all possible fees and charges that might in any way be applicable to Tansy's schooling."

Manila envelope shoved under Wyatt's door, scent of Lanie and Tansy on it.
Bwahahaha, those two know how to get to Wyatt. A great story, Tansy finally frees her mother from a long nightmare in an epic showdown inside her mind, Greasy gets help for his problem from Kodiak, we get to see some impressive medical magic and find out Atlantis created the Meta Gene Complex. And that epilogue, poor Wyatt has his hands full. Can't wait to see more of Marissa and Tansy together, possibly find out more of what went into the creation of the MGC by Atlantis, and hoping to see soon the beginning of the downfall of Theodore Walcutt.Frowning and curious, he unthreaded the mailer and raised the flap. Inside was a single eight and a half by eleven inch, glossy color photograph. In it were Elaine and Tansy laying next to each other and locked in a passionate kiss. Elaine in a reddish orange fur coat and Tansy in a grayish white one.
Neither wore anything else.

Thank You for story comments appreciated and help me know me they are being read and liked.

- E. E. Nalley
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I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.
Thomas Jefferson, to Archibald Stuart, 1791
- Valentine
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elrodw wrote: (Insert feedback here)
But even with the littlest font, my feedback won't fit there.
Laneth starting her lecture in Latin. She should know that Latin isn't a common language now, and she is just insulting the "scholars." I wonder if she will provide some nice recordings while speaking Latin, and maybe a Pictish/English (Georgian) Dictionary, Celtic/English Dictionary. (Not sure how well any of the languages she knows are known currently.)
Liberace? Freddie Mercury? How about George Takai? or Neil Patrick Harris? or maybe Adam Lambert? Oh wait, he didn't come out until 2010.
I wonder if Baloo can teach that diagnostic spell to Dr. Tennant (female). It would be very helpful. Providing Greasy with a palliative is going to start a long line at Doyle. Starting with Phlegm, Frostbite, and every other student with an uncontrollable power or other problem, including Ayla, and Jade. And Greasy will be forbidden from building a Shrine to Kodiak (both of them). If Kody is still there in Gen 2, is he still providing treatments like this. I wonder if he will have any side-effects.
Laneth had one heck of a life, and we already know where this is going. How much can she communicate with Lainie?
It's strange, but Pru may have been the only person that Tansy wasn't mean to in person. She obviously dissed her in at least her own thoughts, but she is making up for that. And making up to Greasy for beating the crap out of him.
I think the cure of Tansy's mom was a bit too quick, easy, sudden? I guess I would have had Tansy have to fight more than one time to actually fix the problem (even if it isn't completely written each time). It took Kayda many workings to remove all the piercings from Cav and Skybolt, even if it was shown only once or twice.
Don't Drick and Drive.
- null0trooper
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Valentine wrote: I think the cure of Tansy's mom was a bit too quick, easy, sudden? I guess I would have had Tansy have to fight more than one time to actually fix the problem (even if it isn't completely written each time). It took Kayda many workings to remove all the piercings from Cav and Skybolt, even if it was shown only once or twice.
If I recall correctly, Sky's piercings were backed up by one or more fairly nasty spells cast by Hekate. Also, because placing piercings requires one or more physical wounds, they can't just be yanked out and expected to heal well even without magical complications.
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- Arcanist Lupus
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Ooh, a member of the Whateley mental health team that isn't Dr. Bellows! That IS new!
Ah, yes. A table to sleep on. The height of luxury!
That moment when you realize that you know someone with the answers to the most interesting medical mystery of your time, and you never bothered to ask them about it.
Oh, look! Male Dr. Tennant. Apparently today is "straighten up lingering continuity loose ends about the Whateley medical community" day.
What, no guinea pigs being suppressed?
Ooh, personality personifications! This is going to be a fun mental dive! (And I mean that in the enjoyably fun, not the sarcastically fun sort of way)
My guess is that Kodiak's diagnostic spell can be taught fairly easily, but learning to read it is much harder, and manipulating it to get fine detail is even harder. The differences between installing photoshop, using photoshop, and mastering photoshop, if you will.
"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
- Arcanist Lupus
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Still, I suspect that it's overly optimistic to think that a mental illness can be cured in a single sitting. I'd imagine that it is like going cold turkey on a smoking habit. The mental pathways are still there and heavily trodden upon. But now that she's been broken from her downward spiral and returned to clarity of mind recovery is possible.null0trooper wrote:
Valentine wrote: I think the cure of Tansy's mom was a bit too quick, easy, sudden? I guess I would have had Tansy have to fight more than one time to actually fix the problem (even if it isn't completely written each time). It took Kayda many workings to remove all the piercings from Cav and Skybolt, even if it was shown only once or twice.
If I recall correctly, Sky's piercings were backed up by one or more fairly nasty spells cast by Hekate. Also, because placing piercings requires one or more physical wounds, they can't just be yanked out and expected to heal well even without magical complications.
"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
- Yolandria
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There's a huge difference between mental illness and mythos magic. Mental illness can be cured rather easily with the use of psychic powers.Valentine wrote: I think the cure of Tansy's mom was a bit too quick, easy, sudden? I guess I would have had Tansy have to fight more than one time to actually fix the problem (even if it isn't completely written each time). It took Kayda many workings to remove all the piercings from Cav and Skybolt, even if it was shown only once or twice.
Mistress of the shelter for lost and redeemable Woobies!
- Valentine
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Yolandria wrote:
There's a huge difference between mental illness and mythos magic. Mental illness can be cured rather easily with the use of psychic powers.Valentine wrote: I think the cure of Tansy's mom was a bit too quick, easy, sudden? I guess I would have had Tansy have to fight more than one time to actually fix the problem (even if it isn't completely written each time). It took Kayda many workings to remove all the piercings from Cav and Skybolt, even if it was shown only once or twice.
World's most powerful psychic is there with Tansy, and he couldn't cure it. Mental Illness can't be easily cured with psychic powers, if it was then Dr. Bellows, and his staff wouldn't be needed at Whateley, FUBAR would cure them all as they arrived.
Don't Drick and Drive.
- Katssun
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Tansy's mother is displacing her fear with maternal rage and drive. Tansy showed her mother what her father made her do, and that tipped the scales in an instant. Once she destroys Teddy Walcutt, she may relapse if the strength hasn't built up by then, or the fear of sickness isn't replaced with something like fear of failure. It was a quick fix on Tansy's part, because she knew right where to go.
But I guess this brings up the question about psychic intrusions. Who sets up the format, the owner or the intruder? Tansy has a lot of power over her appearance in her mother's head, but had very little when she went into Kayda's. Tansy also had a pretty beneficial structure in her mother's head, where in Kayda's head she was dragged along through memories or curious mental constructs like the pedestals. If Tansy was prepared, she could put up a flow where she could easily get at the root of her mother's problems, and perform the quick fix. Or was it that Tansy was familiar enough with her mother's issues that she could follow the framework her mother's mind was in to navigate through the courtroom and throne setting?
Maybe Fubar failed because he usually just navigates memories, and stays away from the more abstract?
I need a reminder, because I did a quick search and came up with nothing.E. E. Nalley wrote: So I guess I'm not spoiling anything now, by admitting that Tansy is a member of the Boston Dawsons. Yes, those Boston Dawsons…

I'm also stunned at the continued reveals of arrogance of the Atlanteans and Five Fold Court. Kodiak says they were desperate, but did they really think that a meta-gene complex wouldn't mutate on its own? For all that they appeared to know about DNA, they sure missed the point there.
- annachie
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E. E. Nalley wrote: So I guess I'm not spoiling anything now, by admitting that Tansy is a member of the Boston Dawsons. Yes, those Boston Dawsons…
Do they own a creek?
- Cerdaemon
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On the other hand since it was artificially introduced, it would explain hown Nimbus can screw with it, since I would assume the BIT is directly related to it somehow.
Regarding not anticipating mutations of MGC, well at least the Kodiak expected them and was against it. He probably just got overruled.
- Valentine
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Don't Drick and Drive.
- Kristin Darken
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Katssun wrote: I'm also stunned at the continued reveals of arrogance of the Atlanteans and Five Fold Court. Kodiak says they were desperate, but did they really think that a meta-gene complex wouldn't mutate on its own? For all that they appeared to know about DNA, they sure missed the point there.
They were sort of in a war for the survival of the planet; they weren't certain anyone (doctors or test subjects) would live long enough for the complex to serve its original purpose... let alone mutate.
Fate guard you and grant you a Light to brighten your Way.
- Cerdaemon
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Valentine wrote: I'm guessing that there is some sort of Essence link to the MGC. If there isn't enough ambient Essence in the area it won't activate. So during the time between the Sundering and the return of the Sidhe, the number of mutants would be very low, as Essence increased, more and more mutants appear. When the World Tree is fully mature, the mutant population may explode.
This makes a lot of sense. I forgot about the essence drought after the sundering.
- E. E. Nalley
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As to the confusion about the Boston Dawsons, let me just say that is in comparison to the Chippewa Falls Dawsons, of which Tansy is not a member.
Now, Marissa is not cured in the strictest of senses. She still has Munchausen syndrome and hypochondria, she's just Aware that she has Munchausen syndrome and hypochondria; one of the biggest symptoms of these 2 diseases is that the sufferer is not really aware they have a mental illness. What Tansy has done this made her mother see that she has these diseases which allows her to resist with her considerable willpower their other symptoms. It isn't a cure but it does allow her to second-guess herself and not fall victim which gives time for more traditional methods of psychotherapy to assist her.
As to how Tansy's power is represented here being different from what she experienced when she joined with Kayda, if you actually go back and read it find that Tansy had complete control over the imagery how she appeared and could stop Kayda from doing certain things in the mind space. Tansy is an extremely powerful and subtle psychic, and while she could Assert her own control over Kayda's mind space, she was passive to learn more about what was going on in Kaydas mind.
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.
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That's a given, the tuition deal will be tied in with divorce and alimony if the ideal time for Tansy to legally and publicly disown Theo comes before graduation, once through the red tape, it will be rather easy to make something like that stick, he's rich, the father, and has married several times after Marissa, the only leg he has to stand on is her mental health history, which is a non-factor as Tansy is a legal adult. Actually the ideal time would be in the Court Room when Theo is being tried for everything he did to Marissa and likely his other ex-wives, personally handing the paperwork to the presiding judge.Sir Lee wrote: It's... possible. She might start going by "Tansy Dawson" privately, but as for legally changing her name...? That's a far more confrontational statement. And from what Marissa said at the end of story, they want to bleed Theo Walcutt of as much money as possible, not necessarily to line their own pockets, but rather to punish him -- publicly disowning him would go against that tactic.
Also, there are probably situations where introducing oneself as "Tansy Walcutt" would be convenient -- there are perks associated with the name.
There might come a point where Tansy will do it -- but it will be calculated to cause maximum embarrassment to her father, by very publicly disowning him, and giving a truckload of reasons why she's disassociating herself from him.
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E. E. Nalley wrote: Also keep in mind, time itself fractured during The Sundering. So from Kodiak's point of view it's either been a few hundred thousand years or several tens of millions of years and the answer is highly subjective.
For all anyone knows, it could have even been a precondition for Gaea to reintroduce a sentient line of primates. ("Oy! Gimme summat to work wit' 'ere! Nothin' but a bunch o' f'ed-up monkey-f'rs, way I see it!")
E. E. Nalley wrote: Now, Marissa is not cured in the strictest of senses. She still has Munchausen syndrome and hypochondria, she's just Aware that she has Munchausen syndrome and hypochondria; one of the biggest symptoms of these 2 diseases is that the sufferer is not really aware they have a mental illness. What Tansy has done this made her mother see that she has these diseases which allows her to resist with her considerable willpower their other symptoms. It isn't a cure but it does allow her to second-guess herself and not fall victim which gives time for more traditional methods of psychotherapy to assist her.
I.e., she's gone from years of knowing something's wrong, but not knowing what, let alone how to fix it, to having a label to put on the wrongness that suggests a constructive way through it. I can see how breaking the feedback cycle - through therapy, ritual, powers, medication, whatever - can have the kind of dramatic initial success that sells movie tickets and Reader's Digest.
The really hard work comes into play handling "What's Next?", which we see beginning at the end of the story.
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The suggestion that MGC activation might be related to Essence levels is an interesting one, but by no means correct. Assuming it is, then there should be some interesting correlations among the statistically tiny portion of the population. If magic is involved, just how much needs be involved? One would think that mages of yore might have inadvertently manifested themselves and it been viewed as an extension of their craft. Or it could be the opposite, and require essence being unused to do the trick. It does make me wonder though, if that correlation is in fact there.
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Valentine wrote: Liberace? Freddie Mercury? How about George Takai? or Neil Patrick Harris? or maybe Adam Lambert? Oh wait, he didn't come out until 2010.
But aren't we talking about... hold on. quick DDG search Oh. Huh, never heard of him before, but that's no surprise (I most listen to filk, of all things, and I've never actually watched so much as a single episode of America, I'm a Dullard).
So, should Sandra be pushing Greasy onto the stage so she can get away from them demanding that she sing all the time?
I don't know if that was intentional or not, but I doubt he's actually meant to be the same person. Wicked-Pedo states that the IRL Adam Lambert was born in 1982, which is about 10 years too early for him to be a high school sophomore in 2007-08.
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Schol-R-LEA wrote:
Valentine wrote: Liberace? Freddie Mercury? How about George Takai? or Neil Patrick Harris? or maybe Adam Lambert? Oh wait, he didn't come out until 2010.
But aren't we talking about... hold on. quick DDG search Oh. Huh, never heard of him before, but that's no surprise (I most listen to filk, of all things, and I've never actually watched so much as a single episode of America, I'm a Dullard).
So, should Sandra be pushing Greasy onto the stage so she can get away from them demanding that she sing all the time?
I don't know if that was intentional or not, but I doubt he's actually meant to be the same person. Wicked-Pedo states that the IRL Adam Lambert was born in 1982, which is about 10 years too early for him to be a high school sophomore in 2007-08.
I Googled people coming out since 2000. I vaguely had heard of Adam Lambert, not Greasy, but only knew he existed, no idea what he did. I actually thought he was someone else.
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Are the Walcutts related to the Goodkinds, ancestrally? ... Sorta shipping Tansy and Ayla...
... What else might be the Fivefolds be responsible for? Dynamorphs? Power Stones? Basically every source of Empowerment? They're even technically responsible for mages??
So, note how super-divorced the G2 Financial Scene seems from the G1 stuff. Basically no familiar names... If the rankings are such that the Walcutts are the seconds to the Goodkinds... How much has the economic landscape changed?
... Wonder what happened to Connie and Heather? Destitute? Dead? What?
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Malady wrote: How much has the economic landscape changed?
... Wonder what happened to Connie and Heather? Destitute? Dead? What?
Well, it's hard to say. Their world is a significantly more dangerous place than our own. We've never had to deal with all of our TV channels being usurped by a mad man proclaiming himself Emperor of the world. Yet.
As far as Connie and Heather go, there is some justice in the world, but there is plenty of injustice as well. As we shall see in the coming weeks…
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No, we elected him, instead.E. E. Nalley wrote: We've never had to deal with all of our TV channels being usurped by a mad man proclaiming himself Emperor of the world.
and ooh... sounding ominous.
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Probably won't be mentioned at all... remember, there's a reason MIDs have a codename and the MCO is forbidden from seeking the mutant's real name. Especially if Tansy is going to be of any use to anyone as an operative.mhalpern wrote: To add to how screwed Theo is, even though solid proof would be difficult, allegations of what he made Tansy do will be damaging in itself, more so during a court hearing about what he has done to his Ex-wives, its hard to say if it would qualify as child prostitution, or statutory rape by proxy, or both, with a clear cut case of industrial espionage tied in depends on what the judge decides to call it, as there would be very little president to go off of, the very mention of possible industrial espionage will be a black mark to other businesses and make his life difficult, regardless of how it is achieved, without trust, not even backroom deals will happen easily
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... I wonder how you get certified as a Sorcerer...
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DanZilla wrote: Gettin' a mite close to a political discussion with that... back on topic...
mhalpern wrote: To add to how screwed Theo is, even though solid proof would be difficult, allegations of what he made Tansy do will be damaging in itself, more so during a court hearing about what he has done to his Ex-wives, its hard to say if it would qualify as child prostitution, or statutory rape by proxy, or both, with a clear cut case of industrial espionage tied in depends on what the judge decides to call it, as there would be very little president to go off of, the very mention of possible industrial espionage will be a black mark to other businesses and make his life difficult, regardless of how it is achieved, without trust, not even backroom deals will happen easily
Probably won't be mentioned at all... remember, there's a reason MIDs have a codename and the MCO is forbidden from seeking the mutant's real name. Especially if Tansy is going to be of any use to anyone as an operative.
Depends on how much is mentioned, using sex as a means of social engineering to acquire information isn't anything new and you don't need telepathy to do it. And it could be rather easy to block detailed inquiry related to what she did, due to the nature of the situation, all that matters is that she was emotionally abused to acquire information, using sex, about other companies. Beyond that is not only irrelevant but gross misconduct, besides Theo does NOT want word to get out that Tansy is any kind of mutant, let alone a telepath, remember that bet he made against Bruce Goodkind in the flashback in Intervention? Revealing Tansy as a mutant is worse for Theo than it is for Tansy, so he'll take efforts to ensure that doesn't happen.
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The fact that she's an Exemplar and telepath, OTOH, are not as well known. That time she seduced Unicorn's brother, for instance, nobody seemed to know she was Tansy Walcutt -- apparently she was using an alias, and some assumed that she was Theo Walcutt's flavor-of-the-month.
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Might not explain the Goodkind "pedigree" but it certainly does explain the other Bloodline. They may have known that the MGC is ancient and intentional all along, and not just thought of it as a random happenstance they stumbled upon.Malady wrote: I wonder if the Goodkinds and related know about the revealed true origin of the MGC... And so, don't want any bit of that ''tampered'' bloodline?
Interesting parallel to the Gen 2 Nazis who have tried to recreate it without that particular "mutant" element to it.
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It takes five years to make a Pixar film.
Brave came out in 2012
Just enough time for someone at that lecture to tell a buddy in the film industry. "I heard this great story. Bet it would make a good movie."
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But, hey, you have agreement!
Malady wrote: Funny Quotes:
“Oh, that went well...” [OH! Brave references! Wait... So in Whateley, Brave is based off of Laneth's story, instead of the other way around!]
Hmm... What other movies could be inspired by things?
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Malady wrote: Dude, I ninja'd you on the first page. Sorry! :sigh:
But, hey, you have agreement!
Malady wrote: Funny Quotes:
“Oh, that went well...” [OH! Brave references! Wait... So in Whateley, Brave is based off of Laneth's story, instead of the other way around!]
Hmm... What other movies could be inspired by things?
Doesn't count. You hid it behind a spoiler blank. ^_-
"When worlds Collide." Because of the Sundering leaving racial memories.
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peter wrote: "When worlds Collide." Because of the Sundering leaving racial memories.
More than just that if you stop and think about it. When Worlds Collide is a retelling of the Noah story with some science-fiction overtones and stage dressing. But then, I believe every civilization in the Fertile Crescent had a flood Myth. Certainly something to make you go, "Hhhmmmmm…"
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Liberace? Freddie Mercury? How about George Takai? or Neil Patrick Harris?
The first two were flamboyant (to the level of stereotype) musicians from the beginning, who became iconic. The other two started out as relatively ordinary (but talented) actors whose orientation was hidden and largely irrelevant to their careers for years. For George Takai, it became more a matter of politics and personal life than a signifivant element of his acting. NPH did make a part of some later over the top portrayals. All told, Mercury is a better update than the others, IMO.
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Rose Bunny wrote: If that was indeed morning sickness... Lanie is 5'11" and Wyatt is 6'6"... them's gonna be some TALL kids.
I got the feeling of morning sickness as well, I wonder if the tribal land they are on allows polygamy?
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E. E. Nalley wrote:
peter wrote: "When worlds Collide." Because of the Sundering leaving racial memories.
More than just that if you stop and think about it. When Worlds Collide is a retelling of the Noah story with some science-fiction overtones and stage dressing. But then, I believe every civilization in the Fertile Crescent had a flood Myth. Certainly something to make you go, "Hhhmmmmm…"
Not really, consider the Mississippi flooding of 1993.
The flood occurred on the Mississippi and Missouri rivers and their tributaries between April to October 1993. The flooded area totaled around 30,000 square miles (80,000 km²) and was the worst since the Great Mississippi Flood of 1927 as measured by duration, square miles inundated, persons displaced, crop and property damage and number of record river levels.
Now this is with all the modern flood control, weather forecasting, flood prediction, modern communications, etc. Now imagine what would have happened without all that, and the legends would develop from that.
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Oddly enough, as a retired psychotherapist I disagree somewhat.Valentine wrote: I think the cure of Tansy's mom was a bit too quick, easy, sudden? I guess I would have had Tansy have to fight more than one time to actually fix the problem (even if it isn't completely written each time).
First, a bit of context, In what we laughingly call "real life", "mental illness" can be loosely divided into two categories: physiogenic and psychogenic. The first includes conditions initiated by neural malformation, chemical issues, injuries, and so on. The psychogenic conditions are largely initiated by psychological traumas, stress, and the like.
In the WU, we can add effects of magick, powers, etc.
With the right approaches, many psychogenic conditions really can be eliminated that quickly and easily. For instance, I have seen decades-old phobias eliminated in a single, half hour session - and remained gone at one year and five year followups. Marissa's condition appears to have been similarly structured, and similarly amenable to Tansy's approach. Periodic followups would be prudent, but that kind of symbolic manipulation can produce surprisingly rapid and lasting changes.
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Amusingly enough, China has their own ancient flood legend, with some archeological and geological proof!Valentine wrote:
E. E. Nalley wrote: More than just that if you stop and think about it. When Worlds Collide is a retelling of the Noah story with some science-fiction overtones and stage dressing. But then, I believe every civilization in the Fertile Crescent had a flood Myth. Certainly something to make you go, "Hhhmmmmm…"
Not really, consider the Mississippi flooding of 1993.
The flood occurred on the Mississippi and Missouri rivers and their tributaries between April to October 1993. The flooded area totaled around 30,000 square miles (80,000 km²) and was the worst since the Great Mississippi Flood of 1927 as measured by duration, square miles inundated, persons displaced, crop and property damage and number of record river levels.
Now this is with all the modern flood control, weather forecasting, flood prediction, modern communications, etc. Now imagine what would have happened without all that, and the legends would develop from that.
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There was some natural river flooding in 1938 as well, which was less severe in itself but played a role in a later disaster set off by the ongoing
Flood legends are very common around the world, it is true, but so are floods. While actual prehistoric disasters such as the Black Sea inundation (which has been argued to have been very rapid - a period of a few months - but even with the normal model of 250 years was still a dramatic event) and the Badlands glacial flooding (which happened around the same time, and was part of a general series of meltwater inundations that led to dramatic sea level rising and probably contributed to the Black Sea event) would contribute to this, but aren't really needed to explain the legends.
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elrodw wrote: And the flooding on the Yangtze Yellow and Mississippi rivers and in ancient lands is related to the Banshees Tale how?
Laneth -> Brave -> When Worlds Collide -> Noah -> Floods
Collapse of North American and NW European ice sheets -> also flooding -> Badlands carved out PLUS:
Sea level increases -> Scotland now located on an island separate from Europe
Also, Kayda's from South Dakota, close to the Badlands, and now knows Laneth, so it's all good.

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And since Lanie is on the pill, I think She and Wyatt were depending on that for birth control. Though the pill isn't 100% effective, especially where Exemplars are concerned.
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elrodw wrote: And the flooding on the Yangtze Yellow and Mississippi rivers and in ancient lands is related to the Banshees Tale how?
Amtrak.
Hmmmm, I wonder if Laneth and Destiny's Wave can talk about their understanding of modern music together.
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Rose Bunny wrote: No, Her child had already been born, and Lanie is her descendant through that child.
And since Lanie is on the pill, I think She and Wyatt were depending on that for birth control. Though the pill isn't 100% effective, especially where Exemplars are concerned.
I was referring to the other children she was supposed to carry, not her first.
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null0trooper wrote:
elrodw wrote: And the flooding on the Yangtze Yellow and Mississippi rivers and in ancient lands is related to the Banshees Tale how?
Laneth -> Brave -> When Worlds Collide -> Noah -> Floods
Collapse of North American and NW European ice sheets -> also flooding -> Badlands carved out PLUS:
Sea level increases -> Scotland now located on an island separate from Europe
Also, Kayda's from South Dakota, close to the Badlands, and now knows Laneth, so it's all good.
And the glaciation is the reason there are no snakes on Ireland, which of course relates to Lainie's Irish roots.
No! This should be prevented at all costs! If those two meet, they might start a funetik aksent feedback, which would lead to a (gasp) accent singularity.Rose Bunny wrote: I'm just waiting for Lanie to bump into Alicia. Though I wonder how effective Alicia's glow detection is for women that don't know. I can certainly pick up on the glow on women that do know, but it's harder with those that don't.
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I wonder who Dr Kodiak gets asked to look at next. Phlegm notably comes to mind. (Continuity: He's been called Phlem in some recent stories)
Adam opened the door and found it full with the practically hulking form of Wyatt Cody. Behind him, John 'Peeper' Martin squealed out, “I didn't make the poster of Loophole in the shower!”
Wyatt's face clouded over and he ducked his shoulder to crowd his way into the room and collect a handful of the chubby young man and effortlessly lift him up to eye level. “What poster of Lanie in the shower?” he growled. Adam actually chuckled and shook his head as he tapped the big senior on the arm.
“Wyatt?” he asked, pointing with this thumb at the wall. On it was a one sheet style poster that had been the fund raiser spring term final project for Venus, Inc. last year. On it, Elaine, dressed as a plumber heavily inspired by a certain Italian practitioner of the trade, shrugging into the camera as the models, all in towels clustered around her with mock scowls at being forced to wait to come clean, in a shower under heavy remodeling. It was even labeled, Venus, Inc. 2006-2007.
Calling all artists! Both for the scene and for the poster itself!

In it were Elaine and Tansy laying next to each other and locked in a passionate kiss. Elaine in a reddish orange fur coat and Tansy in a grayish white one.
Hmm. Let's reimagine this as another shot for a photoshoot (perhaps the one for Stephan of Beverly Hills). Loophole standing 3/4 facing the camera and looking into it. She's wearing her coat, holding it closed above her breasts. Back to back with her is Tansy, looking over her shoulder at the camera. We can't see how her coat is staying closed. Both are wearing heels on otherwise bare legs.
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peter wrote: Would that image be legal if used commercially? No full nudity so maybe. They are under age after all.
I won't repost the image because, honestly I think it crosses a line, but this is an actual advertisement, so, draw your own conclusions...
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However, I'll amit there is one thing which ramped up the 'd'aww' factor for me above all. Greaser. All this time the poor guy passed in Peeper's toxic shadow, all the troubles, an now he's finally facing bright opportunities, and the fact it could mean hope for other GSD students in similar situation is just wonderful. Favorite part of this story.