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6 years 5 months ago #1 by Yolandria
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  • Looks like our fave Goth tween is at it again! Gen 1 madness inc. Post in the comments below!

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    6 years 5 months ago - 6 years 5 months ago #2 by Malady
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  • Awww! The romance bits! So sweet!

    Also the family stuff was great!

    And that reveal at the end! Woah!

    So, a student for the new year, confirmed...

    ...

    How long was Lady Havoc sentenced for? And could she get a pardon like the Imp did, or something??
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  • Malady wrote: Awww! The romance bits! So sweet!

    Also the family stuff was great!

    And that reveal at the end! Woah!

    So, a student for the new year, confirmed...

    ...

    How long was Lady Havoc sentenced for? And could she get a pardon like the Imp did, or something??


    I don't think her trial happened yet, however her cooperation a second time after being forcefully broken out will only help her, demonstrates a lack of intention of going back on the streets or at least causing trouble, which might help her get deemed as safe enough to transfer to a research facility, in New Hampshire.

    like the reveal at the end, that complicates maters

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    6 years 5 months ago #4 by null0trooper
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    6 years 5 months ago #5 by Dreamer
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  • Malady wrote: Awww! The romance bits! So sweet!

    Also the family stuff was great!

    And that reveal at the end! Woah!

    So, a student for the new year, confirmed...

    ...

    How long was Lady Havoc sentenced for? And could she get a pardon like the Imp did, or something??


    Havoc's sentence is for life. The key difference being that Imp whs a thief who never hurt anyone, while Havoc has killed multiple bystanders.
    6 years 5 months ago #7 by mhalpern
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  • konzill wrote:

    Malady wrote: Awww! The romance bits! So sweet!

    Also the family stuff was great!

    And that reveal at the end! Woah!

    So, a student for the new year, confirmed...

    ...

    How long was Lady Havoc sentenced for? And could she get a pardon like the Imp did, or something??


    Havoc's sentence is for life. The key difference being that Imp whs a thief who never hurt anyone, while Havoc has killed multiple bystanders.

    But then, she really doesn't want to be pardoned, even with her restraint, she would have to constantly look over her shoulder, and that will take its toll quickly, and her restraint makes it harder to defend herself

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    6 years 5 months ago #8 by mhalpern
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  • Come to think of it, the breakout/kidnapping of Lady Havoc could lead to her being sent to a more secure facility, but her active participation in capturing Rumple and cooperation with authorities, in the form of calling for help, and enabling them to locate her, could earn her minor freedoms, it does demonstrate that she is unlikely to willing escape, but at the same time, considering the prison weapons people in our world with just simple physics and ingenuity have made, there's no way she's going into a workshop without extra supervision (though if a prison for supercrims has a workshop it probably would have that already) and being frisked when she enters and exists the room. The extra oversight could pay for itself in security upgrades and supplying LE and hero groups

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    6 years 5 months ago #9 by Valentine
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  • So Kaylie will be starting Whateley in January. Does niece of a Supervillainess count for Bad Seedness? I think Kaylie would be a great apprentice for Jadis and Kate.

    Alyss is going to surprise the shit out of some mage hiding behind their forcefield with those bracelets. I wonder if they would break a Fool's Circle. Ayla will soon be trying to buy ebidium darts. Can Harry make it?

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  • Valentine wrote: So Kaylie will be starting Whateley in January. Does niece of a Supervillainess count for Bad Seedness? I think Kaylie would be a great apprentice for Jadis and Kate.

    Alyss is going to surprise the shit out of some mage hiding behind their forcefield with those bracelets. I wonder if they would break a Fool's Circle. Ayla will soon be trying to buy ebidium darts. Can Harry make it?

    Cold iron is sufficient to break a fool's circle, and won't be immune to warper effects, and seeing how Ayla is a warper, and would like to be able to use all his holdouts in combination with his powers, that's kinda important.

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    6 years 5 months ago - 6 years 5 months ago #11 by Esar
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  • Thanks Morpheus for this new story.

    The humor was on point, the pace was quite right and the action was easy to follow.
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    6 years 5 months ago #12 by Naldru
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  • I had the impression that Lady Havoc actually feels remorse for her past actions, at least in her sane moments. She probably feels like she is the position of some mental asylum inmates, fearing that she will go out of control if it wasn't for the restraint. Alyss has mentioned a desire to research Diedrick's and find a cure. There might be symmetry if Alyss was to try out potential cures on Lady Havoc. If the cure for Lady Havoc was to create a similar change in appearance to what Alyss received from the cancer cure, it might result in another student for Whateley and the Poe cottage.

    By the way, I found two entries for Erin in the Wiki, and I'm not sure if either of them fit the character in this story. Has this character appeared before or will the character appear more in the future?
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  • Naldru wrote: By the way, I found two entries for Erin in the Wiki, and I'm not sure if either of them fit the character in this story. Has this character appeared before or will the character appear more in the future?


    Esoteric and Feral have both appeared before. Erin Danielson's origin story is "A Tenuous Blade". Erin Wynguard has a number of cameos in Year One stories. I think everyone gave up on the One Steve Limit early on.

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  • Personally, I'm significantly more worried that Kaylie will not make it to Whateley, and that it might take more than a few weeks for her to be found once she's kidnapped...
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  • Interesting that Spearhead - who, regardless of what she might know otherwise, was present when Alyss was introducing the Esoteric to her family and the Freelancers, and thus probably should have heard at least the reference to Whateley Academy - didn't mention the school to Col. Estavez.

    This may mean nothing; she might not know about WA, even if the other FLs all seem to (after all, both Min and her brother - codename Ceasefire, I don't think they've mentioned his personal name yet - went there, and I am guessing that some of the others did, too), and she seemed a bit preoccupied in that scene, so she may have missed it.

    OTOH, it could also mean that she's already told Estavez about the school, or knows he found out about it when researching the kids they fought.

    Or it could mean she has an agenda of her own, and is holding information back on him.

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  • Schol-R-LEA wrote: Interesting that Spearhead - who, regardless of what she might know otherwise, was present when Alyss was introducing the Esoteric to her family and the Freelancers, and thus probably should have heard at least the reference to Whateley Academy - didn't mention the school to Col. Estavez.

    This may mean nothing; she might not know about WA, even if the other FLs all seem to (after all, both Min and her brother - codename Ceasefire, I don't think they've mentioned his personal name yet - went there, and I am guessing that some of the others did, too), and she seemed a bit preoccupied in that scene, so she may have missed it.

    OTOH, it could also mean that she's already told Estavez about the school, or knows he found out about it when researching the kids they fought.

    Or it could mean she has an agenda of her own, and is holding information back on him.

    or She was more concerned with Havoc than small talk,

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  • Katssun wrote: Personally, I'm significantly more worried that Kaylie will not make it to Whateley, and that it might take more than a few weeks for her to be found once she's kidnapped...


    Why kidnap one kid, when you can put a tracker on her in hopes she'll lead you to others?

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    6 years 5 months ago - 6 years 5 months ago #18 by Sir Lee
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  • I doubt that the Triangle will kidnap Kaylie. They all but declared Ribbon's family off-limits due to the unwanted attention messing with them would automatically bring.

    However, Lady Havoc's relationship with the rest of the family now is not much of a secret. Rump knows, that betraying asshole probably also knows where Ribbon went, not to mention that it's pretty hard to hide a superfight. So a number of people may have reached the conclusion that "people who live in that house are important to Lady Havoc." And she has mentioned that there are a BUNCH of supervillains holding grudges on her... so one of them might try something.

    On a lighter note... I kept expecting that Lady Havoc would be found to be pregnant at that medical exam at the end. It has been two months since "Blast from the Past", if she were pregnant, it should be detectable by now.
    Hypotheses:
    a) She's not pregnant
    b) She is, but the doctor was not looking for it so she didn't notice.
    c) The doctor noticed, but Lady Havoc asked her to keep it quiet until she figures out how to reveal it without wrecking Pinnacle's reputation.

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  • Naldru wrote: I had the impression that Lady Havoc actually feels remorse for her past actions, at least in her sane moments. She probably feels like she is the position of some mental asylum inmates, fearing that she will go out of control if it wasn't for the restraint. Alyss has mentioned a desire to research Diedrick's and find a cure. There might be symmetry if Alyss was to try out potential cures on Lady Havoc. If the cure for Lady Havoc was to create a similar change in appearance to what Alyss received from the cancer cure, it might result in another student for Whateley and the Poe cottage.

    By the way, I found two entries for Erin in the Wiki, and I'm not sure if either of them fit the character in this story. Has this character appeared before or will the character appear more in the future?


    Esoteric, in poe as a freshman and from the area.

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  • Sir Lee wrote: I doubt that the Triangle will kidnap Kaylie. They all but declared Ribbon's family off-limits due to the unwanted attention messing with them would automatically bring.

    However, Lady Havoc's relationship with the rest of the family now is not much of a secret. Rump knows, that betraying asshole probably also knows where Ribbon went, not to mention that it's pretty hard to hide a superfight. So a number of people may have reached the conclusion that "people who live in that house are important to Lady Havoc." And she has mentioned that there are a BUNCH of supervillains holding grudges on her... so one of them might try something.

    On a lighter note... I kept expecting that Lady Havoc would be found to be pregnant at that medical exam at the end. It has been two months since "Blast from the Past", if she were pregnant, it should be detectable by now.
    Hypotheses:
    a) She's not pregnant
    b) She is, but the doctor was not looking for it so she didn't notice.
    c) The doctor noticed, but Lady Havoc asked her to keep it quiet until she figures out how to reveal it without wrecking Pinnacle's reputation.

    Of course the surprise of the patrons at the villain club that someone would kidnap Havoc, indicates that not a lot of people would go out of their way to go after someone in prison, at least not forcibly removing them. The fact that she helped the heroes find them also helps push her towards"not worth the effort". Attacking family is meaningless if the target isn't there, it's also looked down upon. Fact is that it takes a lot of resources to get someone out, and if they are just going to go straight back in at the first opportunity, so that you have to start over if they escape, it simply isn't worth it to all but the one percent nut jobs

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  • Sir Lee wrote: b) She is, but the doctor was not looking for it so she didn't notice.


    People are often surprised by how often that sort of thing happens . I mean, it isn't that common, but common enough that that TV series was possible.

    You'd think it would be impossible for a woman not to notice something that affects their whole body like that, but apparently, the signs are sometimes hard to spot, especially if you think it couldn't be the case (for example, if you'd taken a HPT earlier and got a false negative, or having what appears to be a menstrual cycle due to any of several factors). And yes, it can be missed during doctor's visits.

    A cousin of mine was surprised by her first pregnancy, learning about it less than a month before she was due. I will bet most people know at least one woman to whom it has happened, though they may not know about it - it isn't something that comes up in conversation, usually. Apparently, about one in, I dunno, a few thousand pregnancies goes unnoticed into the third trimester, but by then it is much more likely to be spotted. Going into labor unexpectedly? A lot less common, but as you can see if you watch an episode of the show, not unknown.

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  • Schol-R-LEA wrote: Interesting that Spearhead - who, regardless of what she might know otherwise, was present when Alyss was introducing the Esoteric to her family and the Freelancers, and thus probably should have heard at least the reference to Whateley Academy - didn't mention the school to Col. Estavez.


    She may well know about it and have decided that it is in the best interest of the cause to not tell her CO that there is an entire school full of young mutants. He just might be crazy enough to mount a large schale invasion on the school and in the process alert every superhero and supervillain that the Triangle is a clear and present danger.
    They just might get the syndicate inspired enough to come after them. And if not them there's a lot of major superhero groups that would want to protect Whateley in particular and young mutants in general. Not to mention that there are several major supervillains who currently have children at Whateley. The Iron Dragon might not get motivated to protect his daughter if she gets in trouble with a western anti-mutant group (but then again he might take the fact that it is a western group as a mortal insult), but doctor Diabolik most certainly would.
    And that is not even counting the near certainty that next year's seniors would make the Triangle their legacy project.
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  • Erianaiel wrote: She may well know about it and have decided that it is in the best interest of the cause to not tell her CO that there is an entire school full of young mutants. He just might be crazy enough to mount a large schale invasion on the school and in the process alert every superhero and supervillain that the Triangle is a clear and present danger.


    Assuming that she knows about there being a school for mutants is one thing. It does not inherently follow that she knows anything about the political and financial horse-trading that keeps the doors open. Even if she were a graduate herself, there's no reason to believe that she knows which heroes and villains have children currently attending.

    If Spearhead knows much at all about the Syndicate, beyond "organized crime" and "rent-a-thugs with PR", she'd need to be playing some sort of long and deep game.

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  • null0trooper wrote:

    Erianaiel wrote: She may well know about it and have decided that it is in the best interest of the cause to not tell her CO that there is an entire school full of young mutants. He just might be crazy enough to mount a large schale invasion on the school and in the process alert every superhero and supervillain that the Triangle is a clear and present danger.


    Assuming that she knows about there being a school for mutants is one thing. It does not inherently follow that she knows anything about the political and financial horse-trading that keeps the doors open. Even if she were a graduate herself, there's no reason to believe that she knows which heroes and villains have children currently attending.

    If Spearhead knows much at all about the Syndicate, beyond "organized crime" and "rent-a-thugs with PR", she'd need to be playing some sort of long and deep game.


    While it's very unlikely that she would know who is currently attending, it is possible if she has a relative attending.

    I don't think she knows about Whateley though. She would be everything she could to dissuade them from going near it. She would know about Whateley's neutrality, its ties to Lord Paramount, Champion, Mrs. Carson, that both the villain and hero communities would come after them.

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  • Could somebody tell me whether Gold is really Rumpelstiltskin's son with GSD? Or is he just a magical construct that Rumpelstiltskin grew fond enough to call it his son?
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  • ebony841 wrote: Could somebody tell me whether Gold is really Rumpelstiltskin's son with GSD? Or is he just a magical construct that Rumpelstiltskin grew fond enough to call it his son?


    Its implied Gold was a construct but you never know

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  • mhalpern wrote:

    ebony841 wrote: Could somebody tell me whether Gold is really Rumpelstiltskin's son with GSD? Or is he just a magical construct that Rumpelstiltskin grew fond enough to call it his son?


    Its implied Gold was a construct but you never know


    Or did he somehow transfer his son's spirit to the construct, or was the construct some sort of way to save his son's life.

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  • been doing some rereading and I found something

    “This is Kaylie,” I said, putting my arm around my granddaughter. “She’ll be coming to Whateley next semester.”

    “Really?” Erin asked, giving her a curious look. “It’s a good school.”

    “And these colorful people,” I continued, gesturing to the costumed heroes, “are Pinnacle, Mystery Woman, and Spearhead.”



    if Spearhead has an exemplar memory, the Triangle might have enough information to find Whateley and figure out what it is.

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