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7 years 10 months ago #1 by Malady
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  • Peeper's power is to see thorough layers, but only a certain number, and at most a certain thickness?

    So, the computer that Phase got him, could work by having a sufficient number of layers between him and the screen, or something?

    And he could get normal vision, sort of, by having glasses lenses made like that? But then the peripheral area outside the lenses would make it very disorienting?
    7 years 10 months ago #2 by DanZilla
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  • Malady wrote: Peeper's power is to see thorough layers, but only a certain number, and at most a certain thickness?

    So, the computer that Phase got him, could work by having a sufficient number of layers between him and the screen, or something?

    And he could get normal vision, sort of, by having glasses lenses made like that? But then the peripheral area outside the lenses would make it very disorienting?


    I wouldn't think it would be any more disorienting than for any other glasses wearer... there'd be a period of adjustment and then it would work fine... the trick would be getting him to WANT to wear the glasses.

    As to what would be covered and how much of the peripheral is seen... it depends on the type of glasses... you can have a full wrap-around headset, a slim visor like Cyclops of the X-Men or Geordi LaForge from Star Trek, A pair of Gargoyles like Arnold Schwarzenegger wore in Terminator, or any number of glasses styles that give more or less coverage.
    7 years 10 months ago #3 by Valentine
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  • I believe it is thickness, because at one point he mentions that he can't see through drywall, about 1/2 inch (1.27 cm). So it's possible, there is just 1 cm or so of glass over the screen.

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    7 years 10 months ago #4 by Sir Lee
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  • Ah, but if it's thick enough to block his vision, he will see... the blocking material. Also, the exact depth probably fluctuates a little, since he is a biological entity. So, it's not so much a matter of putting a thick glass in front of his laptop screen; it's probably more a matter of stacking something like ten LCD elements, until his X-ray vision happens to focus in one of the layers instead of punching completely through.

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    7 years 9 months ago #5 by Malady
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  • How much knowledge does he have?

    From whateleyacademy.net/index.php/original-t...e/373-what-s-up-dork

    Might be quite a bit, as he's able to recall:

    “BULL! I heard from Bannockburn that that ‘clan tartan’ bit is just something that some Victorian bozo came up with, back in the 19th Century! Real old-time Scotties didn’t HAVE clan tartans! They couldn’t afford any of that custom tartan crap!”


    But, hey, people gather a lot of info from a lot of different sources?
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  • Malady wrote: How much knowledge does he have?

    From whateleyacademy.net/index.php/original-t...e/373-what-s-up-dork

    Might be quite a bit, as he's able to recall:

    “BULL! I heard from Bannockburn that that ‘clan tartan’ bit is just something that some Victorian bozo came up with, back in the 19th Century! Real old-time Scotties didn’t HAVE clan tartans! They couldn’t afford any of that custom tartan crap!”


    But, hey, people gather a lot of info from a lot of different sources?


    What are you looking for in an answer... ?

    We're pretty sure from his previous scenes he's not an advanced technologies student so he probably doesn't have a good scientific background and he's not an Exemplar (from his MID) so he doesn't have a mental boost from that... The example you've given could be easily supplied by a person who knows a bit of trivia. All that implies is picking-up random knowledge from a number of sources.
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  • DanZilla wrote:

    Malady wrote: How much knowledge does he have?

    From whateleyacademy.net/index.php/original-t...e/373-what-s-up-dork

    Might be quite a bit, as he's able to recall:

    “BULL! I heard from Bannockburn that that ‘clan tartan’ bit is just something that some Victorian bozo came up with, back in the 19th Century! Real old-time Scotties didn’t HAVE clan tartans! They couldn’t afford any of that custom tartan crap!”


    But, hey, people gather a lot of info from a lot of different sources?


    What are you looking for in an answer... ?

    We're pretty sure from his previous scenes he's not an advanced technologies student so he probably doesn't have a good scientific background and he's not an Exemplar (from his MID) so he doesn't have a mental boost from that... The example you've given could be easily supplied by a person who knows a bit of trivia. All that implies is picking-up random knowledge from a number of sources.


    Good point. That was a terrible question. It's just that he seemed smarter than I thought he was...
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  • Peeper is not a moron. He's not a genius either. I think he's probably not atypical for a high-schooler, just a bit more... obsessed with boobies.

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    7 years 9 months ago #9 by lduke1990
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  • So exactly your average male high school student?

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    7 years 9 months ago #10 by Kettlekorn
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  • Peeper's behavior is not average.

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    7 years 9 months ago #11 by Valentine
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  • Kettlekorn wrote: Peeper's behavior is not average.


    True enough, he doesn't stare at the members of the sex he is attracted to enough. :silly: I'm actually a little serious here. Think how the average boy or girl would act if they always saw their classmates naked.

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  • I was (finally) reading Absinthe of Malice part 2 and when I hit the Peeper "interview" I had to wonder if he can see through Porciline's shells or if they interfere with his vision.

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    5 years 3 days ago #13 by Schol-R-LEA
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  • Whether he can see through Porcelain's outer shell, or even her inner (dark) shell, it's impossible to say. I'm guessing he can't see through the outer shell, and even if he can, he probably can't see through the inner one.

    But there's something else to remember: his power isn't physical, it's a form of psychic scrying. It's plausible that the penetration limits are more psychological than real, though I imagine that there is a distance limitation such that he couldn't, for example, look through the center of the planet.

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    5 years 3 days ago - 5 years 3 days ago #14 by null0trooper
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  • Schol-R-LEA wrote: Whether he can see through Porcelain's outer shell, or even her inner (dark) shell, it's impossible to say. I'm guessing he can't see through the outer shell, and even if he can, he probably can't see through the inner one.

    But there's something else to remember: his power isn't physical, it's a form of psychic scrying. It's plausible that the penetration limits are more psychological than real, though I imagine that there is a distance limitation such that he couldn't, for example, look through the center of the planet.


    I didn't get the impression that Jericho was using psychic energies to develop Peeper's glasses.

    To Seal Our Happiness wrote: Jericho had been able to discover that he was emitting some narrow wave, energetic particle that was below Extreme Ultra Violet, but also not an X-Ray. Dr Tenent had dubbed it Turner's Radiation and they had worked out that John's optic nerves were interpreting the 'bounce' of the particle as a kind of natural radar in the visible spectrum, which began to explain why he could see through some materials but not others. Fortunately the particle was not ionizing, so skin stopped it, which was why everyone appeared naked to John.
    Jericho had insisted that the unit of measure for Turner's Radiation, when they developed a way to measure it, would be scandals.


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    5 years 3 days ago #15 by Schol-R-LEA
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  • OK, I missed that point, and I could have sworn that it had previously been stated that it was a psi effect. Odd. Thanks for the corrections.

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    5 years 3 days ago #16 by E. E. Nalley
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  • Schol-R-LEA wrote: OK, I missed that point, and I could have sworn that it had previously been stated that it was a psi effect. Odd. Thanks for the corrections.


    It likely was mentioned as a Psi effect previously. Psi is the dumping ground for classifiers who are stumped and have no idea what a power is doing or why. In mutant science, it is the equivalent of 'Here Be Dragons...'

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  • E. E. Nalley wrote:

    Schol-R-LEA wrote: OK, I missed that point, and I could have sworn that it had previously been stated that it was a psi effect. Odd. Thanks for the corrections.


    It likely was mentioned as a Psi effect previously. Psi is the dumping ground for classifiers who are stumped and have no idea what a power is doing or why. In mutant science, it is the equivalent of 'Here Be Dragons...'


    Nah, Dragons are listed under the 'we dont know what the fuck it is, so it's magic' category :)

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  • Astrodragon wrote:

    E. E. Nalley wrote:

    Schol-R-LEA wrote: OK, I missed that point, and I could have sworn that it had previously been stated that it was a psi effect. Odd. Thanks for the corrections.


    It likely was mentioned as a Psi effect previously. Psi is the dumping ground for classifiers who are stumped and have no idea what a power is doing or why. In mutant science, it is the equivalent of 'Here Be Dragons...'


    Nah, Dragons are listed under the 'we dont know what the fuck it is, so it's magic' category :)


    No. Dragons are in the "We're all out of mammoths and mastadons. What can we hunt to extinction next?" :roflmao:

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  • elrodw wrote:

    Astrodragon wrote: Nah, Dragons are listed under the 'we dont know what the fuck it is, so it's magic' category :)


    No. Dragons are in the "We're all out of mammoths and mastadons. What can we hunt to extinction next?" :roflmao:


    As far as dragons are concerned humans are useful.

    First because they voluntarily mine and purify gold and turn it into a convenient tiny grain to stuff their bedding with.
    And, lately, because they finally developed the ability to create more useful livestock for the dragons (those pesky knights are so bothersome to peel out of their tin cans and there simply are no virgins in the world anymore).
    Of course, humans have also shown themselves remarkably capable of destroying entire ecosystems which kind of defeats their purpose but you really have to ask yourself if the dragons did not create humans?
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  • And so begins the 'Dragons as Secret Masters of Humankind' conspiracy theory
    4 years 11 months ago - 4 years 11 months ago #21 by Schol-R-LEA
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  • Bek D Corbin wrote: And so begins the 'Dragons as Secret Masters of Humankind' conspiracy theory

    Hey, if it worked for Shadowrun's Sixth World...

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  • Humans are useful to dragons, because dragons cant be arsed to grow and farm their own coffee. They'd rather let the humans do it for them... :)

    I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
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  • Bek D Corbin wrote: And so begins the 'Dragons as Secret Masters of Humankind' conspiracy theory

    As opposed to "Dragons are responsible for all the ridiculous conspiracy theories out there" (cf. Ozy and Millie ?

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