Question The Superior Court of Kings and Queens of the Golden Circle and Platinum Diadem

While we don't really know what sort of monetary qualifications are needed to be rushed, it does seem to focus on "old" money. That being said there are likely a number of students (Gen 1) that should qualify, but only Phase would ever think of inviting them. This is discounting those that have opted out or have been blackballed, although again I can see Phase trying to get Harvey in.

So a list of potential Golds, that are unlikely to get in.

• Headrush, her family is worth $100s of millions, mostly land and oil
• Kayda, again her family is worth $100s of millions, mostly land, cattle, and a business that was just sold.
• Shine, his net worth isn't nearly what the others are, but it is growing fast and not only is he paying his way, but providing for others, and it is his money, not his parents.
• Jimmy T, he says he makes a lot of money, enough to be an Alpha
• Charge and Adelie, I don't think the Vitesse family is worth nearly as much as other people, but I think it does qualify as "old" money though.

Any others worth a lot of money?

Eldritch, Seraphim, and Silver make an easy million every time they collaborate.

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And Jobe (and Belphy).

Arguably Strega and Envy.

If Ayla makes enough rich people, it'll be basically the "People Ayla has made Rich Club". Lol.

Malady wrote: If Ayla makes enough rich people, it'll be basically the "People Ayla has made Rich Club". Lol.

...So also Vamp, much to Ayla's dismay.

Shine's likely to be snubbed even before he learns of the club just cause of his powers to pass off 'inferior' booze as the good stuff.

Realize that we are talking about the tippy top of the wealthy.

Eldritch, Seraphim, and Silver would have to sell something every day for a year before they would even start to close in on the wealth levels we are talking about.

Jobe, Belphy, and the Diabloliks would qualify, and I remember Phase asking (at least about Jadis) but I can't remember what was said about it.

While Ayla is helping people get rich, we aren't talking about the level of wealth that the Gold's have. Bugs, Jericho, Lanie, Hazmat, and the others are making millions, but remember that Ayla felt poor with only $300 million.

We don't know yet if Vamp will get her money or not.

Shine's booze isn't inferior, which is why it is selling, but his accent and upbringing will get him blackballed way before anything else, that is Headrush's problem too.

Valentine wrote: Jobe, Belphy, and the Diabloliks would qualify, and I remember Phase asking (at least about Jadis) but I can't remember what was said about it.
Shine's booze isn't inferior, which is why it is selling, but his accent and upbringing will get him blackballed way before anything else, that is Headrush's problem too.

Any Seeds are black balled on principal.

As for Shine's brews, we know that but some snob might see it as inferior and a knock off.

Note that in Gen 1 just having the money doesn't seem to be an automatic in... This group is much about style AND substance... sadly style doesn't necessarily seem to mean class. I'm looking at YOU Traduce!!! These aren't just rich people but those who know how to act and behave as the 1% of the 1%ers.

The ones Ayla tends to interact with seem to be mostly the ones that want to be movers and shakers... but that's not necessarily the only people in the group... for instance Glitch is a member and acts the part but seems to have no motivations beyond associating with the group.

DanZilla wrote: Note that in Gen 1 just having the money doesn't seem to be an automatic in... This group is much about style AND substance... sadly style doesn't necessarily seem to mean class. I'm looking at YOU Traduce!!! These aren't just rich people but those who know how to act and behave as the 1% of the 1%ers.

The ones Ayla tends to interact with seem to be mostly the ones that want to be movers and shakers... but that's not necessarily the only people in the group... for instance Glitch is a member and acts the part but seems to have no motivations beyond associating with the group.

That was part of my point. Kayda and Headrush's families are definitely wealthy enough to qualify, but they aren't from snobbish old money families. Remember that Hamper and Damper, Fantastico, Solange, and a few others were members and quit or were kicked out.

It's about wealth and more importantly prestige, as was noted. Old money, blue-blood, snobs. Kayda, Charge, 'Shine, Headrush - all nouveau riche as far as the snobs are concerned. They aren't "polite society". Goodkinds and the like? yeah. Glitch? Probably comes from a family with enough status to make up for him being a drunken sot with little ambition. Once you're in that circle, you have to really be an asshole to get booted. On the other hand, if you're not already in, you're not going to get in. It's a 'class system' without being formally a class system.

Also, 'Shine and Kayda would be just as uncomfortable hobnobbing with the Golden Kids as the Kids would be letting them in. Possibly even more so.

And yeah, Jobe would be blackballed out of principle, even if he had the slightest interest in going, which he doesn't.


Stacey (assuming she ever gets to Whateley) could probably get in on the strength of the Wickersham connection. Probably. It helps that she's a cute girl.

I would put in a slightly different way. The Golden Kids is a social club, intended to foster and reinforce already existing social links coming from at least the previous generation. Having money is a necessary condition, but not by far sufficient. You have to have gone to the right schools, the right social events, be part of the right clubs etc. so that you already have connections before you even stepped in the clubhouse. Ayla, even after being dumped by his family, has those in spades (and clubs, and hearts, and diamonds). Hatamoto, even being from a different social scene, has it through his family's business dealings with Western millionaires. Solange and the Kenner twins have the necessary connections, but ended up blackballed due to the unpardonable faux pas of dissing the Golds in order to suck up to those plebeian and vulgar Freya and Sebastiano.

'Shine, Silver, Loophole and others may be getting quite rich, but they don't have these previous connections in any form. Jobe and the Diaboliks may have been born with silver spoons in their mouths, but again, they didn't inherit a social network from their parents. Lord Paramount's kids (if he has or will ever have any) may have a better chance -- Frederick Brancoveanu seems to be a savvier politician then Gizmatic, and may be forging enough social links for the whole "former mercenary/supervillain" thing to be swept under the rug.

Using more mundane examples: Bill Gates' kids would certainly get invited (not only would they be at least third-generation wealthy, but Bill does the hobnobbing thing). Steven Jobs' kids might -- even being just second-generation, their daddy Steve was a form of "geek chic" and had a mesmerizing personality, so I expect he forged enough social links. Stephen Wozniak's kids probably wouldn't: hobnobbing with the gilded ones is just not the Woz's scene. The dotcom era billionaires are just too recent to evaluate.

Well, ironically, the real thing about the Golds is that they use the club as a way of hanging out with other kids in a context where MONEY ISN'T AN ISSUE. Yes, on a very real level, they just want to kick back and not get noodged for money or contacts all the time. I have had some contact with the very rich (very BRIEF contacts, I add), and one thing that is almost guaranteed to get a good response from them (well, at least the non-screaming asshole types) is that you don't ask them for Money. or ask for stock tips. Or for invites to the next high profile soiree. There is nothing that the Rich, especially Old Money, hate more than Social Climbers. Okay, there's hardcore Socialists and Communists, but they have too many relatives in those two camps.

Ironically, the POV character (aside from Phase) that the Golds would identify with the most would be Jadis. She has problems with wannabe Minions, people target and classify her because of who her father is with no consideration as to who she is as a person, the Government wants to shut her down on general principles, and she had to learn how to play political hardball at an early age. Her concerns about her brother Mal and Erzili? They SO get her worries. She's Black? So what? Just look at the long teeth on Gramma! If Jadis wasn't a Bad Seed, she'd be a Gold. "I'm sorry Jadis Dear, we would invite you, but to be honest, you're social and political poison."

Yes, but remember that Ayla invited Jo Donner based on the fact that she was the niece of Willard Jennings. But she had none of the background that the other Golds had.

id bet that by the time phase graduates if not by the end of y2 that he has started a new club just for all the up and coming millionaires

Valentine wrote: Yes, but remember that Ayla invited Jo Donner based on the fact that she was the niece of Willard Jennings. But she had none of the background that the other Golds had.

Jo hasn't, but Willard has. Go back to my whole point about the network being inherited from previous generations...