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Question Freshman 2016 Changlings

7 years 10 months ago #1 by Iwasforger03
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  • Take 2

    I'm having a devil of a time keeping all the freshman changelings straight so far. How bloody many of them are there again? What are their names?

    We have the german girl - who didn't, i think, get introduced in the string of introductions night 1 in poe, Tia (not in poe as of kansas 2?), Blair, Bianca, Laura, Morgana - who I'm guessing all get POV stories, and then... I got lost in the press/crush/mix of the others and which ones were sophomores and where were froshes.

    Anybody feel like helping me straighten it out?

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    7 years 10 months ago #2 by JG
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    7 years 10 months ago #3 by Iwasforger03
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  • That fills me with reassurance.

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    7 years 10 months ago #4 by Kristin Darken
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  • Note that Erica and Fiorella (Eisenmadel and Calliope) from "Dorms of Our Lives" are both PoV characters but are NOT in Poe. So everyone they met at meet and greets and mixers are not part of your 'automatic' changling/lesbian option list. They're in Dickenson.

    Vic, Taka, and Jimmy are in Twain.

    Hikaru and Tia are in Melville.

    Laura, Morgana, Bianca, and Tanya are in Poe

    AJ and Nick... hmm... not sure that's in released material yet. You might be able to guess though. :)

    Bailey hasn't arrived yet at all, I don't think.


    Not all the changelings are in Poe and not all the PoV people in Poe are changelings. It's definitely not like Gen 1 where all the main protagonists are Poe changelings, that's for certain. :)

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  • Then there's Adam over in Twain who CAN change gender, but that's because of powers, and he prefers being male so far.

    There's Hikaru over in melville, there's usually one or two heavy GSD changelings in Whitman, Twain or Hawthorne.

    There's probably one or two I missed.
    7 years 10 months ago #6 by Arcanist Lupus
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  • I thought that Tanya was a Whitmaniac? She's hanging out with the catgirl.

    Nick seems like a shoo-in for Twain, but I'm kind of hoping for Emerson because that gives us characters in every cottage except for Hawthorne.

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  • Tanya's not a changeling
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  • Arcanist Lupus wrote: I thought that Tanya was a Whitmaniac? She's hanging out with the catgirl.


    Yep, Tanya's in Whitman

    Kristin Darken wrote: Bailey hasn't arrived yet at all, I don't think.


    Bailey's in Poe, rooming with Laura... Elrod's been working with Katie to get her views and take on things so you'll see more Laura in his stories than others for the time being. {unless someone else decides to take her out for a spin in something upcoming)
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  • If you beg Elrod, he might release the rooming info for the freshman/sophomore floor of Poe. That wouldn't give you ALL the answers... like I said, not all the changelings are in Poe... and unlike Gen 1, the PoV kids are scattered across multiple cottages which is why the supporting cast list seems so 'big' at the moment. It took four or five major story arcs before we had a reasonable number of kids from outside of TK introduced... in Gen 2, you're actually being exposed to far more students without the context of seeing them in their cliches and clubs and combat teams.

    But you WILL get that detail sooner or later. :)

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    7 years 10 months ago #10 by Arcanist Lupus
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  • JG wrote: Tanya's not a changeling

    Perhaps, but she was on Kristin's list of characters in Poe.

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    7 years 10 months ago #11 by Kristin Darken
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  • Ya, I might be wrong about that. I don't have the spreadsheet in front of me, that's why I said beg Elrod. :-p

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    7 years 10 months ago #12 by JG
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  • Most of G1 is in Poe, anyway.

    but yeah, it can get confusing at times.
    7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #13 by elrodw
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  • Here's the list of changelings or complex characters who are Freshmen (* indicates a POV character)
    Name, code name, gender, sexuality (if known)

    Poe:
    * Laura Samuels - Cerulea, MtF, Gay
    * Morgana Jones - DragonsFyre, MtF, ?
    * Bianca St Claire - Glyph, MtF, ?
    * Bailey George - Backtrack, MtF, ?
    Daniel Fontenot - Wilder, FtM, Het
    Na'Chessa Rakia Barnes - Maidenclaw, MtF, Q
    Pat Barnes - Hat Trick, C, Q
    Noah/Nina Blake - Bewitched, C, ?
    Marisa (Misty) Isabela Angelica Rangel - Peregrino, C, ?

    Dickinson
    * Fiorella Persico - Calliope, MtF, Gay
    * Erica von Abendritter - Eisenmadel, MtF , Het

    Melville
    * Hikaru Myoujin - Okami, MtF, Bi
    * Lucretia Del Bosque - Lapin, MtF, Bi

    Whitman
    Alexis Wallace - Gold Rose, MtF, Bi

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    7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #14 by Iwasforger03
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  • Thank you Elrod. Should have said that right away.

    Was it explained why ther are five changelings not in Poe? We know somebody kind of screwed over Tia, though I don't know if it was intentional, but what about the other four?

    Also, Elrod, what does the C on their listing mean? I get MtF and FtM, but not the C. Does Q stand Questioning or Queer?

    I also really need to finish catching up, because I did NOT realize Hikaru was a changeling.

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    7 years 10 months ago #15 by elrodw
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  • C for gender means Complex, e.g. someone like Ayla (Lina is the Gen 2 version)
    MtF and FtM are pretty obvious.

    Gay, Het - self-evident. Q is questioning

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    7 years 10 months ago #16 by Kristin Darken
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  • C is... complicated. Literally. And figuratively. It means its not as simple as just transitioning one way as a result of their mutation. They might be Hermaphroditic. They might have a non-human sexuality. They might be in flux (most Shifters aren't powerful enough to actually genetically change sex... though some can reshape their body to 'look' like they have).

    Q is... I think it was questioning

    As to in Poe or not? That mainly has to do with application. If the student was honest on their application about having turned from one sex to the other, about having gender or sexuality issues? They can be assigned to Poe... but if they don't know or don't want anyone else to know, the school will assume that they have always been that way... doesn't mean they won't assign them to counseling if its uncovered or they come out once they are at the school... but they aren't omniscient, even when they had Fubar available, they didn't have the ability to check every student before arrival/assignment to dorms.

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  • As an example of C=complicated, we have a Gen 2 character named Ping Pong. He is a bistable shifter with 2 fixed templates; he's either male or female. Misty (in Poe) is complicated - she's a hermaphrodite.

    In Gen 1, Ayla is complicated. Danny is complicated due to having to shift to Slut-Kitty periodically but being Kitty-Boy the rest of the time.

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    7 years 10 months ago #18 by Valentine
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  • And you still left off Adam, who if he doesn't get a "C" at least needs an asterisk on his "M."

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  • Adam doesn't need to be included. His shifting between genders is entirely voluntary and has little to nothing to do with his self-image. If he doesn't like it he can just pop back in an hour. It's a remarkable calming agent when you know that you're not going to be stuck.
    7 years 10 months ago #20 by Iwasforger03
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  • Oh god, I'm still behind on Gen 1 as well. I need to just find some friggin summaries somewhere, but the wiki doesn't really have those. I'm still trying to catch up on Gen 2 XD. While, in theory, writing a fanfic.

    Thank you all for clearing up and clarifying those questions for me. I have some serious confusion trying to keep track of everyone and keep them all straight. I really appreciate you answering so quickly and cleanly.

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    7 years 10 months ago #21 by Kristin Darken
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  • I think the story releases are outpacing the wiki upkeep these days. :oops:

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    7 years 10 months ago #22 by Iwasforger03
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  • It would help if we all pitched in on the wiki. I added those entries from baseline mages, but I had a bear of a time making sure I got the sourcing cited, etc. I'm not used to wiki's like that. XD

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  • Interesting that Tia is listed as bi.

    She's very much hetero before Jamie's assault, but because of the inherited issues from Ibby, her condition makes her very prone to fawning over men.

    Honestly, she's given off a hetero-female vibe the same as Erica, though not as overt, since arriving at Whateley. But more reluctant due to her issues of her last significant other attacking her. I'm a bit surprised that she's anything other than asexual at this point in Gen 2.

    Laura is so "frisky" that it's been hard to imagine the other changelings having any kind of noted sexuality. Erica and Cally aside because it has been explicitly stated. The other newfound girls haven't really even thought about it.
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  • Katssun wrote: Interesting that Tia is listed as bi.

    She's very much hetero before Jamie's assault, but because of the inherited issues from Ibby, her condition makes her very prone to fawning over men.

    Honestly, she's given off a hetero-female vibe the same as Erica, though not as overt, since arriving at Whateley. But more reluctant due to her issues of her last significant other attacking her. I'm a bit surprised that she's anything other than asexual at this point in Gen 2.

    Laura is so "frisky" that it's been hard to imagine the other changelings having any kind of noted sexuality. Erica and Cally aside because it has been explicitly stated. The other newfound girls haven't really even thought about it.


    Who says they haven't thought about it? But in Morgana'scase (and possibly Bianca's also) there are other issues involved.

    I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
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  • Katssun wrote: Laura is so "frisky" that it's been hard to imagine the other changelings having any kind of noted sexuality. Erica and Cally aside because it has been explicitly stated. The other newfound girls haven't really even thought about it.


    Laura is not "frisky" sexually. She is open (in Poe) about her preference for girls, she likes to make friends, she enjoys kissing girls, but there's no evidence that she's anything more than a happy, friendly girl. Y'all are extrapolating data that isn't there. Laura is not a frisky slut.j

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  • How many other Posies have already acquired a girlfriend and have already been accused of cheating on her in less than a week?

    Laura's aggressive flirting certainly puts her on the path to "frisky," though she has backed off since hurting Toni's feelings.

    I'm not saying she's a slut by any means, but she comes off similar to Rosalyn. My impression is that once Laura finds out about the hot tubs...she'll be a problem for years.
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  • She was certainly the first to jump into the dating/kissing game, at the least. Dive in head first at that.

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  • Iwasforger03 wrote: She was certainly the first to jump into the dating/kissing game, at the least. Dive in head first at that.


    No faster than Toni and Rip or Fey and Bunny did in Gen 1 .... :whistle:

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  • This is a true statement. However, Toni always wanted to be a girl, and Nikki had lots of time to adjust, plus a voice in her head to help. Most of the changelings actually IN Poe this year weren't willing changelings and lack that advantage. So I guess Laura's on equal footing with the 06 crew, it just looks skewed because of different reasons for all the changelings, lack of point of view on some of them, and lack of adjustment time for many of them.

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  • Laura, as a devisor, is of course interested in testing the bounciness of her bedsprings.

    Or that's what she CLAIMS....:P

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  • Good point!

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  • Iwasforger03 wrote: It would help if we all pitched in on the wiki. I added those entries from baseline mages, but I had a bear of a time making sure I got the sourcing cited, etc. I'm not used to wiki's like that. XD

    And I thank you for the help! If you don't feel comfortable with the wiki syntax, just add the research (really, the research is like 90% or the work) and let someone else polish it. I tend to check pretty much every edit, and I'll fix any issues I find.

    I also encourage people who want to contribute to open a Wikia account. It doesn't require much -- I think that the only requirement is a valid e-mail -- and gives you a few things back: like a user page on the wiki, and the option to tweak some settings to our particular preference (for instance, I prefer using the source-code editor instead of the WYSIWYG editor, so I changed my default to it).
    More subtly, using a Wikia account means your edits are listed under your username -- meaning that you build a reputation. Long term, it means that other editors start trusting you more and no longer need to spend time double-checking your data. I mean, these days I implicitly trust any edit from, say, Baby Valentine, even if it directly contradicts something that I expect to be the truth... and also, that build-up of trust means that, if you come to need some sort of elevated user rights, the admins are more likely to give them to you.

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  • elrodw wrote: Melville
    * Hikaru Myoujin - Okami, MtF, Bi


    That is not something I saw coming. Then again, she seems to be actively avoiding forming too close relationships with the only students.

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  • It... there are hints I can see now that I know that, but honestly, if Elrod hadn't dropped that, I wouldn't have picked up very easily that Hikaru was a changeling. Much less what seems to be...

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  • Iwasforger03 wrote: It... there are hints I can see now that I know that, but honestly, if Elrod hadn't dropped that, I wouldn't have picked up very easily that Hikaru was a changeling. Much less what seems to be...

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    Rises the Sun, which is up to part 2 so far, is Hikaru's origin story and details a lot of past history. It spells all that out and more, when you have the time to get around to it. :)

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  • Dreamer wrote:

    Iwasforger03 wrote: It... there are hints I can see now that I know that, but honestly, if Elrod hadn't dropped that, I wouldn't have picked up very easily that Hikaru was a changeling. Much less what seems to be...

    Warning: Spoiler! [ Click to expand ]

    Rises the Sun, which is up to part 2 so far, is Hikaru's origin story and details a lot of past history. It spells all that out and more, when you have the time to get around to it. :)


    I'm reading them in published order, i think, so I'm currently on kansas 6 for gen 2.

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  • Kristin Darken wrote: Note that Erica and Fiorella (Eisenmadel and Calliope) from "Dorms of Our Lives" are both PoV characters but are NOT in Poe. So everyone they met at meet and greets and mixers are not part of your 'automatic' changling/lesbian option list. They're in Dickenson.

    Vic, Taka, and Jimmy are in Twain.

    Hikaru and Tia are in Melville.

    Laura, Morgana, Bianca, and Tanya are in Poe

    AJ and Nick... hmm... not sure that's in released material yet. You might be able to guess though. :)

    Bailey hasn't arrived yet at all, I don't think.


    Not all the changelings are in Poe and not all the PoV people in Poe are changelings. It's definitely not like Gen 1 where all the main protagonists are Poe changelings, that's for certain. :)


    (Glares at the various members of the nonexistant cabal...)

    Okay...which of you moved my character and didn't tell me?

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  • Kristen. It was a mistake that's already been pointed out to her (him?). Author Genders... I just go by what gender the name they use sounds like... but some of you, I really just don't know.

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  • Iwasforger03 wrote: Kristen. It was a mistake that's already been pointed out to her (him?). Author Genders... I just go by what gender the name they use sounds like... but some of you, I really just don't know.


    Hmm...now I'm curious to know which you think I am...

    And yeah, as I read through the posts I noted how the mixup was resolved. That's what I get for reacting to a post before catching up on the whole thread.

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  • NeoMagus wrote: Hmm...now I'm curious to know which you think I am...


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    NeoMagus wrote: Hmm...now I'm curious to know which you think I am...


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    Hey, you can't use the bios! That's cheating!

    :-? ;)

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  • Well...Tanya is big on self-doubts, which is why she's adorable.

    Maybe she's not so sure anymore, and forgot to tell you and your muse?
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  • NeoMagus wrote:

    Esar wrote:

    NeoMagus wrote: Hmm...now I'm curious to know which you think I am...


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    Hey, you can't use the bios! That's cheating!

    :-? ;)


    If Esar hadn't cheated, I'd have said Female. I default Female for some reason. And yes, until VERY recently, I thought Bek was female. I go off whether the name sounds one gender or the other, or by their choice of profile picture/avatar (not lit chix avatar, image avatar). ACtually, the lit chix might be the reason I lean towards assuming Female.

    Diane/Renae/Maggie/Babs/Bek/Heather/Kristen - thought ya'll were female. Now I know that Bek is apparently identified as male. Renae is trans, but I never knew and always just assumed she was female to begin with.

    Nalley? Always thought he was male.

    Joe? Male. Starwolf? Male. Morpheus? Male. Elrod... ya know, i always leaned male for Elrod.

    As to the new authors of Gen 2 - I guess I'll cheat and look ya'll up where possible.

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    7 years 10 months ago #45 by Kristin Darken
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  • Renae, Heather, DrBender and I were all born with male bits and are pursuing contemporary medical solutions to fix that problem.

    Heather has completed that now (post-SRS).
    Renae is on hormones, living as female (ID legal and all) and 'ready' for SRS but limited by time/money.
    DrBender (Branwen) is now out as TG and working on it ... still early times.
    I am... getting older and and not physically built to make transition 'easily'... even if I weren't living paycheck to paycheck (and transitioning is not an inexpensive process by any means). So TG, but 'coping' because I don't have options.

    Maggie and Starwolf are both older and, I think, in the same boat with me. Both are/were married and doing their best to cope rather than pursue a transition. Star left, in part, due to an ultimatum / attempt to salvage his marriage.

    E.E. Bek and Babs ... Morpheus and Elrod... I think Bek is too muse driven to have time for such things as gender identity problems. The others... well, they all come from TG Fiction pasts, so at the very least, they enjoy transformations in their fiction. But I don't think they've ever said 'publicly' what their status is.

    Tensei, Drunkfu, Sleethr?

    I think Drunkfu and Tensei are the only authors who were cabal who didn't also write TG Fiction somewhere. Although its entirely possible they did, just using different name. That doesn't necessarily mean anything about their personal status though.

    As to Gen 2 authors... some of that info is probably in the Gen 2 announcement info on their bios.

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    7 years 10 months ago #46 by JG
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    7 years 10 months ago #47 by Kristin Darken
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  • JG wrote: I'm here because I got lost on my way to college.

    lol

    The WU didn't exist yet when I was in college. That's probably a good thing.

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    7 years 10 months ago #48 by Iwasforger03
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  • For us or you?

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    7 years 10 months ago #49 by Valentine
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  • Kristin Darken wrote:

    JG wrote: I'm here because I got lost on my way to college.

    lol

    The WU didn't exist yet when I was in college. That's probably a good thing.


    The Internet barely existed when I was in college. Sigh...

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  • I'm not TG in any way, I'm quite happy as a guy.

    However looking at how my characters react to being changed (not to mention the sheer fun in messing with them!) is mainly why I write them. Basically its fun (and I'm evil...)

    I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
    7 years 4 months ago #51 by Iwasforger03
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  • So I'm rereading the "Not in Kansas" Stories, and I got to part two again, and I'm trying to keep track of everyone. Which is slightly easier because of that handy list Elrod kindly posted for us.

    But It included a couple sophmores and excluded others, so I've tried to sort out the pieces it didn't cover, and I was hoping I could ask to make sure I'm understanding it right... and also to point out it includes one person who did NOT get an introduction.

    Poe:
    * Laura Samuels - Cerulea, MtF, Gay
    * Morgana Jones - DragonsFyre, MtF, ?
    * Bianca St Claire - Glyph, MtF, ?
    * Bailey George - Backtrack, MtF, ?
    Daniel Fontenot - Wilder, FtM, Het - Did not get introduced
    Na'Chessa Rakia Barnes - Maidenclaw, MtF, Q - “Sister” to Hat Trick, has little brother and big sister
    Pat Barnes - Hat Trick, C, Q - “Brother” to Maidenclaw, has little brother and big sister. Brother in poe
    ^ ? Sophmores?
    Noah/Nina Blake - Bewitched, C, ? - A Sophmore
    Marisa (Misty) Isabela Angelica Rangel - Peregrino, C, ? - She is a fully functional Hermaphodite

    RA - Krystal - Codname Flower (Flower manifestor), FTM and unsure, Sophmore+
    Antonia - Ditto (power mimic) MTF? And lesbian, sophmore Dating Cerulea
    Christina Cobryn - Celerity, MTF, ?
    Lesley Wainwright - Ping, MTF?
    Damon Carpenter - FTM, Mganga, ?Sophmore?
    Beverly Taylor - MTF, Unhappy with change

    I didn't catch a codename for Beverly, I'm not positive on whether some of these are the sophmores or more freshman, and I'm positive This Daniel fellow didn't get an introduction at all in Part 2 of "Not in Kansas."

    So I'm just trying to, once more, get it all straight.

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    7 years 4 months ago #52 by Wasamon
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  • I can confirm Ping both as a sophomore and as an MtF transgender.

    Also, Wilder hasn't officially arrived at Whateley, as far as I know, but he's on the list. It's up to Neo as to how he gets introduced.

    To add to the fun, I can say that I personally have six transgender characters in the current year of Whateley, though only five of them have appeared in any canon story so far. Of them, three are in Poe and the rest are keeping mum on the matter.
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  • You are a monster and also amazing. A monster for teasing us, amazing for answering.

    Aren't two of your TGs in Dickenson? Erica and Calliope? Or is just Erica yours?

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  • Calliope is Souffle Girl's.

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    7 years 4 months ago #55 by Iwasforger03
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  • Thank you.

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