Question little confused about Unhcegila.

Rose Bunny wrote: Unless he is able to influence others to attempt to do his bidding, he's pretty much useless for Gen 1 now. Sure Kayda has to worry about him for the next 4 years, but it removes all the immediacy.

Rose Bunny wrote: That's part of the issue with Gen 2, it removes some of the suspense from Gen 1. We know " you can't kill 'Bob', because 'Bob' appeared in a Gen 2 story", and that kinda removes any suspense involving 'Bob'... unless we learn that Gen 2 is an "Abrahmsverse", or something and 'Bob' did die in the main timeline, but alternate Bob lived...*

*Insert Fey, Kayda, Lanie, etc. for 'Bob'.

DanZilla wrote:

Rose Bunny wrote: Unless he is able to influence others to attempt to do his bidding, he's pretty much useless for Gen 1 now. Sure Kayda has to worry about him for the next 4 years, but it removes all the immediacy.

Well, we know he can reach out to others like his sons and Kigatilik. Who's to say they're the only ones he can reach?
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Rose Bunny wrote: That's part of the issue with Gen 2, it removes some of the suspense from Gen 1. We know " you can't kill 'Bob', because 'Bob' appeared in a Gen 2 story", and that kinda removes any suspense involving 'Bob'... unless we learn that Gen 2 is an "Abrahmsverse", or something and 'Bob' did die in the main timeline, but alternate Bob lived...*

*Insert Fey, Kayda, Lanie, etc. for 'Bob'.

This has been a concern since the inception of the Gen 2 project... and we take it into consideration for EVERY character from Gen 1 that we include.

DanZilla wrote: Much like an villain you know will be taken care of eventually he can still make waves and change things for the protagonist... we just know when he's finally dealt with so any attempts to take him on directly are known to be unsuccessful until that point.

Like if it were the Joker... and we knew he died in 2020... until then he could still really screw-up Batman's life.

NJM1564 wrote:

DanZilla wrote: Much like an villain you know will be taken care of eventually he can still make waves and change things for the protagonist... we just know when he's finally dealt with so any attempts to take him on directly are known to be unsuccessful until that point.

Like if it were the Joker... and we knew he died in 2020... until then he could still really screw-up Batman's life.

Which Joker. There are apparently 3. And that brings up another interesting point. Who's to say that there can't be another thing like Unhacegila? And as a class X who's to say that he would even stay dead if killed.

Dpragan wrote: They really need to send Tennyo there with Kayda, or at least have her waiting on top with BBQ sauce and a camera pumping feed to Ungy and Son's portion of the caves.

Class X critters might not 'taste' right.

elrodw wrote: Well, in terms of Daddy Snake Demon being a PITA...

elrodw wrote: Well, in terms of Daddy Snake Demon being a PITA, remember that Number One Son (that's the proper ordering for a Charlie Chan reference, BTW) corrupted a mythical Native American spirit that was bad ganja for Kayda. Daddy Snakey summoned Kigatilik, who is a very nasty shaman-killer. So there's nothing to say that Big Daddy isn't causing trouble by summoning / corrupting more stuff. Is he in his little hidey-hole, chilled to the bone, and shielded? Yes. Can he still get psychic / mental / Class X energy out to mess things up? Oh, yeah.

So - Daddy is on ice, Number Three Son is digging, and everything with THOSE two comes to a head in Would The Last One Out. But ...

And Big Daddy Badass is in a pocket dimension, but that doesn't mean he won't be able to find a way to reach out through the dimensions until he touches something that can bridge into the real dimensional space to try to take care of those pesky teenagers ....

Kettlekorn wrote: Also, don't forget about clones, memory backups, fake memories, and other such chicanery. When you see a G1 character in G2, that doesn't necessarily mean they're the original, even if they think they are the original. For all we know, the real Kayda died shortly after some magic-gone-wrong left Jericho completely obsessed with her, leading to him working with Jobe to create a Kayda serum and reconstruct her mind from her brain (which he'd had preserved after she died, obviously). The references to Turners in G2 are to his parents, to whom he left behind all his earthly possessions (save his wardrobe, which went to Toni) before sacrificing himself to become resurrect Kayda.

Kettlekorn wrote: Also, don't forget about clones, memory backups, fake memories, and other such chicanery. When you see a G1 character in G2, that doesn't necessarily mean they're the original, even if they think they are the original.

null0trooper wrote:

Kettlekorn wrote: Also, don't forget about clones, memory backups, fake memories, and other such chicanery. When you see a G1 character in G2, that doesn't necessarily mean they're the original, even if they think they are the original.

That would be the best explanation for at least one G2 character we've seen.

Iwasforger03 wrote:
Which one?

Kettlekorn wrote: Also, don't forget about clones, memory backups, fake memories, and other such chicanery. When you see a G1 character in G2, that doesn't necessarily mean they're the original, even if they think they are the original. For all we know, the real Kayda died shortly after some magic-gone-wrong left Jericho completely obsessed with her, leading to him working with Jobe to create a Kayda serum and reconstruct her mind from her brain (which he'd had preserved after she died, obviously). The references to Turners in G2 are to his parents, to whom he left behind all his earthly possessions (save his wardrobe, which went to Toni) before sacrificing himself to become resurrect Kayda.

Kristin Darken wrote: Actually... in response to a post earlier in the thread... we said quite the opposite about Gen 2 and timeline shenanigans. The intent is for there NOT to be any alternate universe slippage, even though it would be FAR easier for us to just say the two timeline are separate and it doesn't matter what happens in one, it has no impact on the other. That's entirely NOT true. There are plot points being seeded in Gen 1 stories that don't come to fruition until Gen 2's timeline. There are things happening in Gen 2 that are meant to foreshadow events that haven't happened yet in Gen 1 because they happen in year three or four... and so on.

Not saying we won't mess up and get something wrong at some point. We're bound to, its complicated and there's a lot to keep track of. But we aren't going into it thinking that we're telling two separate stories. And the authors deserve the added kudos of you being aware that "when you see a cameo" or something that seems to cross both generations... someone has spent time thinking through how that is going to work.

But it IS true that some of the things you THINK we're showing you... are actually something else. Because we KNOW who you want to see and know about... and we're not at all averse to making you think one thing so we can grind your feelings into mush later.