Question [G2] DragonsFyre / Morgana

With the initial short character description plus this, we know she's had a rough time. Now did the magical cult want her dead, sacrificed, or mentally destroyed so that she could be brainwashed or taken over. And is she a mutant shifter or is it all magical?

Domoviye wrote: With the initial short character description plus this, we know she's had a rough time. Now did the magical cult want her dead, sacrificed, or mentally destroyed so that she could be brainwashed or taken over. And is she a mutant shifter or is it all magical?

The answer to your first question is pretty much yes.

To the second, her current MID doesn't list her as a shifter. Exactly what she is and what she does is a touch complicated...

Astrodragon wrote:

Domoviye wrote: With the initial short character description plus this, we know she's had a rough time. Now did the magical cult want her dead, sacrificed, or mentally destroyed so that she could be brainwashed or taken over. And is she a mutant shifter or is it all magical?

The answer to your first question is pretty much yes.

To the second, her current MID doesn't list her as a shifter. Exactly what she is and what she does is a touch complicated...

Astro, you seem to be really good at making the cat in me go crazy. I really hope you won't be leaving us this curious all the time.

(Or do I?)

Of course not all the time.

Just most of the time....

Astrodragon wrote:

Domoviye wrote: With the initial short character description plus this, we know she's had a rough time. Now did the magical cult want her dead, sacrificed, or mentally destroyed so that she could be brainwashed or taken over. And is she a mutant shifter or is it all magical?

The answer to your first question is pretty much yes.

Ah. So they intended to use her as mind-controlled cannon fodder... If you can call a dragon cannon fodder.

Well, they might be cruel, nasty, basically evil magicians (Well, that's my Initial Impression. ... If she's slated to become The Blaze of the End, where "The Last Thing You Will See Is My Jaws Closing On You!" then their want to kill her for the sake of the rest of humanity is understandable... Unfortunate and very cruel and so forth, but understandable?)

At least they're not stupidly wasteful.

Eat people?

How dare you insinuate that a delicate refined girl like Morgana would eat people!
At least without ketchup...
(and thats PROPER ketchup, not the American rubbish...)

Not ketchup. Lea & Perrins Original and Genuine Worcestershire Sauce, of course.

I prefer a good BBQ sauce.

I'm getting the impression that cannibalism is a not uncommon discussion topic on this site...

Not quite sure how to feel about that...

ShockHawk wrote: I'm getting the impression that cannibalism is a not uncommon discussion topic on this site...

Not quite sure how to feel about that...

Nah, it's just that I brought it up. It wouldn't be common unless I started sticking it into other threads... Which I could, apparently, given my ramblings below.



Okay, main thing is that Hank... Yeah, Hank is the only one that I think has the least likelihood of cannibalism occurring.

Cannabalism doesn't count if you use Brown Sauce..

It depends, sometimes the brown sauce alone is cannabalism.

Valentine wrote: I prefer a good BBQ sauce.

You might. But then, Morgana is a Brit...

Domoviye wrote: It depends, sometimes the brown sauce alone is cannabalism.

queasiness increasing...

Don't worry shock, it's not cannibalism if the perpetrators are zombies!

mmm, lovely zombies....

Oh, and we never mention zombies here, so it's ok! Just don't ask what happened to Nabraska....

Nagrij wrote: Don't worry shock, it's not cannibalism if the perpetrators are zombies!

mmm, lovely zombies....

Oh, and we never mention zombies here, so it's ok! Just don't ask what happened to Nabraska....

Is it still cannibalism if the humans eat the zombies?

Yes, because zombies are people too! Just, you know, dead ones.

Is it still cannibalism if it's Soylent Green?

Yes it is, but only the lowest of the low eat Soylent green. True people prepare it themselves as it's meant to be eaten.

Didn't one of the old forum members have a sig line to the effect that, to dragons, we are 'crunchy and good with ketchup'.

John.

rubberjohn wrote: Didn't one of the old forum members have a sig line to the effect that, to dragons, we are 'crunchy and good with ketchup'.

John.

Yep, Grover, 3rd post down: webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=...&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

Don't meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup!

I believe it's an old quote from the Shadowrun game system, from the Great Dragon Dunklezahn (sp?)
"Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons because you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup"

Thank you both. That's a classic!

John.

Sir Lee wrote: Not ketchup. Lea & Perrins Original and Genuine Worcestershire Sauce, of course.

add HP Sauce, the only brown sauce worth using.

those two compliment each other perfectly.

Just think how terrible it must be to be a dragon in America, with the lack of decent condiments.

No wonder you don't see them there very often...

Astrodragon wrote: Just think how terrible it must be to be a dragon in America, with the lack of decent condiments.

No wonder you don't see them there very often...

They won't even go after those who drive through McD's. To much fat and a bit greasy. Of course I've heard say that their fine with Chick fil a.

Posted after reading Calamari Part 2:

Observations:
- With four foreign countries represented in the group, I suspect cultural misunderstandings will be a common theme in Gen 2 for at least a good little while... I kind of hope some of what I observed is due to one...
- I may be wrong but, at least to me, in the hotel room scene Morgana seems to take what she went through too casually... from the information revealed she is either a much stronger personality than I at first perceived or there is more to the story that I am missing... maybe some of both...
- Thoroughly enjoyed the whole boots/socks bit... well placed and well written...
- Also... Who is Thulia?...

I see it more as Morgana trying to put on a brave face, push her and she'll collapse. It's a safety mechanism, "If I don't let it show that I'm hurting, no one can hurt me."

Domoviye wrote: I see it more as Morgana trying to put on a brave face, push her and she'll collapse. It's a safety mechanism, "If I don't let it show that I'm hurting, no one can hurt me."

Hmm. Not exactly

Morgana's reactions to what happened to her will be shown. In time. For now, lets just say she doesn't react like Kayda.

But yes, some of what she says and does is coping.

ShockHawk wrote: Posted after reading Calamari Part 2:

Observations:
- With four foreign countries represented in the group, I suspect cultural misunderstandings will be a common theme in Gen 2 for at least a good little while... I kind of hope some of what I observed is due to one...
- I may be wrong but, at least to me, in the hotel room scene Morgana seems to take what she went through too casually... from the information revealed she is either a much stronger personality than I at first perceived or there is more to the story that I am missing... maybe some of both...
- Thoroughly enjoyed the whole boots/socks bit... well placed and well written...
- Also... Who is Thulia?...

Ah. Thulia. Yes indeed...

Astrodragon wrote:

ShockHawk wrote: Posted after reading Calamari Part 2:

Observations:
- With four foreign countries represented in the group, I suspect cultural misunderstandings will be a common theme in Gen 2 for at least a good little while... I kind of hope some of what I observed is due to one...
- I may be wrong but, at least to me, in the hotel room scene Morgana seems to take what she went through too casually... from the information revealed she is either a much stronger personality than I at first perceived or there is more to the story that I am missing... maybe some of both...
- Thoroughly enjoyed the whole boots/socks bit... well placed and well written...
- Also... Who is Thulia?...

Ah. Thulia. Yes indeed...

THIS is one reason I hate cats... most of them anyway...

Astrodragon wrote:

Domoviye wrote: I see it more as Morgana trying to put on a brave face, push her and she'll collapse. It's a safety mechanism, "If I don't let it show that I'm hurting, no one can hurt me."

Hmm. Not exactly

Morgana's reactions to what happened to her will be shown. In time. For now, lets just say she doesn't react like Kayda.

But yes, some of what she says and does is coping.

Hey, that sounds like a disparaging comment about how my gal is handling all the bad luck she's been given! Just remember - I'm co-authoring story 3, so I can end up with Morgana whimpering in a corner, holding her blankie and sucking her thumb if I want

I have ways of getting even if you harsh my gal!

elrodw wrote:

Astrodragon wrote:

Domoviye wrote: I see it more as Morgana trying to put on a brave face, push her and she'll collapse. It's a safety mechanism, "If I don't let it show that I'm hurting, no one can hurt me."

Hmm. Not exactly

Morgana's reactions to what happened to her will be shown. In time. For now, lets just say she doesn't react like Kayda.

But yes, some of what she says and does is coping.

Hey, that sounds like a disparaging comment about how my gal is handling all the bad luck she's been given! Just remember - I'm co-authoring story 3, so I can end up with Morgana whimpering in a corner, holding her blankie and sucking her thumb if I want

I have ways of getting even if you harsh my gal!

Pah, you don't scare me! I know where your buffalo lives...

From the sounds of it, on top of what seems to be the "don't think about it" approach, Morgana likely has a solid amount of closure on what happened, as alluded to by her comment that "those responsible won't be doing it again". The damage and change, both physical and mental remains however.

Ametros wrote: From the sounds of it, on top of what seems to be the "don't think about it" approach, Morgana likely has a solid amount of closure on what happened, as alluded to by her comment that "those responsible won't be doing it again". The damage and change, both physical and mental remains however.

Indeed.

She has been sent to Whateley with a big red 'COUNCELLING : MANDATORY' stamp on her file, mind...

elrodw wrote: so I can end up with Morgana whimpering in a corner, holding her blankie and sucking her thumb if I want

For some reason I want to ask "Fire blanket?"

Hey, she hasn't burned down anything in New York!

Yet.....

Actually, I now have a scene in mind where she IS simpering in a corner with a blanket Going into story 3...

/sigh

I think we need to give ElrodW a happy chew toy like a Danny Franks to play with in Gen 2, otherwise he's gonna go all angsty all the time.

Is there some sort of flower power Daisy Duke we can find him? All tiny shorts and big smiles? Laugh a minute rollercoster action for him to snak on and get excited over?

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: /sigh

I think we need to give ElrodW a happy chew toy like a Danny Franks to play with in Gen 2, otherwise he's gonna go all angsty all the time.

Is there some sort of flower power Daisy Duke we can find him? All tiny shorts and big smiles? Laugh a minute rollercoster action for him to snak on and get excited over?

I have plenty in the old "idea hopper" for gen 2 that doesn't involve either Cerulea and angst, nor torture a-la Kayda. And it's not a dedicated chew-toy.

Elrod v2 is all cute and fluffy.

Question, is Morgana English or Welsh? Just asking because Morgana could be female form of Morgan, as in Captain |Morgan, one of the most famous Welshmen, and dragon's have long been associated with Whales.

The other option is a reference to Morgan le Fey, also know as Morgana, who in the early Arthurian tales was a enchantress and healer, one of the nine Queens of Avalon who healed Aurthur after he was injured by Mordred.

Does her blood have any magical properties? In magic a Dragon's blood is a potent source of power, might be amusing to have her chased by fellow students who need a pint or two for various projects, to say nothing of Dragon's teeth.

Enough questions and rampant speculation, I quite enjoyed the character, lots of hints dropped, with just enough meat to keep one's appetite sated. Her backstory seems to be quite interesting and I'm eagerly awaiting more. As for how's she's dealing with her more recent past events I think 'not so subtle and quick to anger' might fit her.

Kudos for a 'crunchy and good with ketchup' reference.

~Archangel~ wrote: Question, is Morgana English or Welsh? Just asking because Morgana could be female form of Morgan, as in Captain |Morgan, one of the most famous Welshmen, and dragon's have long been associated with Whales.

The other option is a reference to Morgan le Fey, also know as Morgana, who in the early Arthurian tales was a enchantress and healer, one of the nine Queens of Avalon who healed Aurthur after he was injured by Mordred.

Does her blood have any magical properties? In magic a Dragon's blood is a potent source of power, might be amusing to have her chased by fellow students who need a pint or two for various projects, to say nothing of Dragon's teeth.

Enough questions and rampant speculation, I quite enjoyed the character, lots of hints dropped, with just enough meat to keep one's appetite sated. Her backstory seems to be quite interesting and I'm eagerly awaiting more. As for how's she's dealing with her more recent past events I think 'not so subtle and quick to anger' might fit her.

Kudos for a 'crunchy and good with ketchup' reference.

Morgana is Welsh - I rather gave that away by the phrase she spoke in the bus.

Oh, feel free to speculate as rampantly as you like! Some more on Morgana will be revealed in the next few stories, but you might have to wait until her origin story to get the bulk of the info.

Astrodragon wrote:

~Archangel~ wrote: Question, is Morgana English or Welsh? Just asking because Morgana could be female form of Morgan, as in Captain |Morgan, one of the most famous Welshmen, and dragon's have long been associated with Whales.

The other option is a reference to Morgan le Fey, also know as Morgana, who in the early Arthurian tales was a enchantress and healer, one of the nine Queens of Avalon who healed Aurthur after he was injured by Mordred.

Does her blood have any magical properties? In magic a Dragon's blood is a potent source of power, might be amusing to have her chased by fellow students who need a pint or two for various projects, to say nothing of Dragon's teeth.

Enough questions and rampant speculation, I quite enjoyed the character, lots of hints dropped, with just enough meat to keep one's appetite sated. Her backstory seems to be quite interesting and I'm eagerly awaiting more. As for how's she's dealing with her more recent past events I think 'not so subtle and quick to anger' might fit her.

Kudos for a 'crunchy and good with ketchup' reference.

Morgana is Welsh - I rather gave that away by the phrase she spoke in the bus.

Oh, feel free to speculate as rampantly as you like! Some more on Morgana will be revealed in the next few stories, but you might have to wait until her origin story to get the bulk of the info.

Ok thanks for that confirmation, it did have me wondering, I know a few people of Welsh descent and they usually identify themselves as Welsh, not English, kinda like calling a Scotsman an Englishman, or they say they are from the UK. It had me wondering if the Welsh phrase was from Morgana or her passenger.

~Archangel~ wrote:

Astrodragon wrote:

~Archangel~ wrote: Question, is Morgana English or Welsh? Just asking because Morgana could be female form of Morgan, as in Captain |Morgan, one of the most famous Welshmen, and dragon's have long been associated with Whales.

The other option is a reference to Morgan le Fey, also know as Morgana, who in the early Arthurian tales was a enchantress and healer, one of the nine Queens of Avalon who healed Aurthur after he was injured by Mordred.

Does her blood have any magical properties? In magic a Dragon's blood is a potent source of power, might be amusing to have her chased by fellow students who need a pint or two for various projects, to say nothing of Dragon's teeth.

Enough questions and rampant speculation, I quite enjoyed the character, lots of hints dropped, with just enough meat to keep one's appetite sated. Her backstory seems to be quite interesting and I'm eagerly awaiting more. As for how's she's dealing with her more recent past events I think 'not so subtle and quick to anger' might fit her.

Kudos for a 'crunchy and good with ketchup' reference.

Morgana is Welsh - I rather gave that away by the phrase she spoke in the bus.

Oh, feel free to speculate as rampantly as you like! Some more on Morgana will be revealed in the next few stories, but you might have to wait until her origin story to get the bulk of the info.

Ok thanks for that confirmation, it did have me wondering, I know a few people of Welsh descent and they usually identify themselves as Welsh, not English, kinda like calling a Scotsman an Englishman, or they say they are from the UK. It had me wondering if the Welsh phrase was from Morgana or her passenger.

So far Morgana has identified herself as British.

Astrodragon wrote:

~Archangel~ wrote:

Astrodragon wrote:

~Archangel~ wrote:


Ok thanks for that confirmation, it did have me wondering, I know a few people of Welsh descent and they usually identify themselves as Welsh, not English, kinda like calling a Scotsman an Englishman, or they say they are from the UK. It had me wondering if the Welsh phrase was from Morgana or her passenger.

So far Morgana has identified herself as British.

D'oh completely missed that, I must've mixed it up somehow in my head. Maybe with all references to Kenshi not understanding English.

~Archangel~ wrote: Question, is Morgana English or Welsh? Just asking because Morgana could be female form of Morgan, as in Captain |Morgan, one of the most famous Welshmen, and dragon's have long been associated with Whales.

I didn't know Dragons hung out with Whales.
Isn't that kind of a weird association, in that whales are aquatic, and dragons fly? And what if a dragon and a whale got into a romance? What would we get - a fire-breathing humpback?

That would make Mobu Dick far more interesting to read.

elrodw wrote:

~Archangel~ wrote: Question, is Morgana English or Welsh? Just asking because Morgana could be female form of Morgan, as in Captain |Morgan, one of the most famous Welshmen, and dragon's have long been associated with Whales.

I didn't know Dragons hung out with Whales.
Isn't that kind of a weird association, in that whales are aquatic, and dragons fly? And what if a dragon and a whale got into a romance? What would we get - a fire-breathing humpback?

meh.

Actually if you look at how much Celtic myth is tied to water, it makes perfect sense!

Now I just have to point out to the dragons how tasty buffalo are...

How did the thread about my favourite Gen2 character die out?

Morgana is doing pretty well so far ... she didn't hav a freakout a la Nikki ... yet. The shock prod bit was to be expected and she managed to contain the worst part of it so we're fine until now. Mentioning Nikki's meltdown has it been more than a month of being female for Morgana yet? Or is she lucky enough so that demon and half-demon-pseudo-dragon-...girls don't have that special visitor?

By the way does "A Dragon Abroad" count as the dreaded 3rd story or is it the second one since it is her second all alone story.

Lets see.

Morgana has been fully female for about 3 months.
And no, she hasn't had a period yet. Of course, there are RL reasons why she might not have had one yet. Or it may be something else....

Uh, the first two stories at Whateley are ADA1 and 2. ADA3 (Like a Candle in the Wind) will be her 3rd individual Whateley story, I'm writing it now.

RL reasons except for pregnancy are stuff like stress? She certainly has had her fair share of that but can stress really delay a period for two months?

To ADA I thought both parts were just that. Parts of one and the same story. Also why doesn't Blood Sisters count as one of hers?

Blood sisters isn't set in Whateley

Regular periods for all women are a myth. A lot of women have irregular ones, or ones every few months.
But one of the biggest RL reasons for them stopping seems to be lack of resources. The body seems to consider periods something that are nice, but can be postponed if necessary (yes, simplifying here). For example, its not uncommon to happen to serious professional athletes. Apparently the need to use calorie intake to build and maintain muscle - with not much extra, as that would turn into fat - causes them to stop having periods, or only have them rarely. Once they go off the strict regime, they go back to more normal periods. But it varies, it doesn't happen to all of them.

Now given what happened to Morgana, the medics don't consider it odd she hasn't had one yet. At some point, if she still hasn't started, they will investigate further.

I still prefer my way of counting because it is still her first stand alone story no matter where it is set and as origin story it feels so important that it should definitely be counted in that matter.

That is very interesting... why didn't school teach me that? How long is she back to normal nutrition now? And how long does it usually take for the normal cycle to return after the body regains the needed materials? She is properly fed now so she doesn't look anorexic or anything, does she?

Morgana has been eating normally now for about a month, and she's looking sleek
Exemplars recover quickly.

As to when other things will happen - you'll have to wait and see. But it probably wont involve thunderstorms in the cottage, she's not that sort of dragonette...

Considering her special set of powers it might be INCREDIBLY much worse... do we have anyone in the higher grades powerful enough to deal with her kind of burnout?

It's also worth noting that her BIT is based on Thulia's. And Thulia's form was constructed from the ground up so that she could live in this plane. Given Thulia's expertise in such things, it wouldn't surprise me if she was capable of tweaking her body to avoid having to deal with the messier biological functions. Now whether she actually did so, and whether those tweaks carried over to Morgana's copy only Astrodragon knows. But it seems like a reasonable possibility to consider.

I'm guessing it starts a tiny fight between Laura and Morgana, or something.

Laura is happy that she's a girl. She'd might even congratulate Morgana as finally becoming all-girl, totally missing that Morgana never wanted to be one. Something that Bianca does understand, and would probably have to mediate.

If the effects are something weird like her wings appearing for the first time, that's just fuel for the rest of MMM to get Morgana back for a few things and snark.

Wasn't Laura very empathic up until now? At least I don't think she would be that blind to someone else's opinion of a matter that important. Perhaps she'd have problems reading Bianca beneath her ternal mask of professionalism. But our favourite little half-demon wears most of her emotions a bit more visbily.

Arcanist Lupus wrote: It's also worth noting that her BIT is based on Thulia's. And Thulia's form was constructed from the ground up so that she could live in this plane. Given Thulia's expertise in such things, it wouldn't surprise me if she was capable of tweaking her body to avoid having to deal with the messier biological functions. Now whether she actually did so, and whether those tweaks carried over to Morgana's copy only Astrodragon knows. But it seems like a reasonable possibility to consider.

Of course, you do realise the statement was made by an extradimensional entity who self-defines as an Australian Imp called Bruce, right?
He might not be the most believable source.
Or of course he might be.

You are enjoying your role as omniscient creator way too much

Oneiros wrote: Wasn't Laura very empathic up until now? At least I don't think she would be that blind to someone else's opinion of a matter that important. Perhaps she'd have problems reading Bianca beneath her ternal mask of professionalism. But our favourite little half-demon wears most of her emotions a bit more visbily.

Laura's not perfect. None of the Whatelely teens are, even Scott Emerson, Poise, Gloriana and Pendragon. Laura has made mistakes already, with Toni. So has Morgana, so has Bianca. As have the rest of MMM, TK, The Outcasts, and all the rest.

That's what makes the universe so engaging. The characters generally act in realistic ways.

Sorry but who is Toni? I only associate Gen1 Chaka with that name... seems I have to reread all of Gen2 Oh my what a dreaded chore.

Oneiros wrote: Sorry but who is Toni? I only associate Gen1 Chaka with that name... seems I have to reread all of Gen2 Oh my what a dreaded chore.

Antonia, a soph changeling who happens to be Laura's love interest.

Ah yes of course... with Laura's intensive flirting I've kinda lost track but re-reading should definitively fix this.
On the part of imperfectness you are absolutely right. That is also why many people don't like Superman or Batman because at least in fighting terms they seem so bloody perfect it's not even funny anymore.
Of course this is so much more accurate on a personal level.

elrodw wrote:

Oneiros wrote: Sorry but who is Toni? I only associate Gen1 Chaka with that name... seems I have to reread all of Gen2 Oh my what a dreaded chore.

Antonia, a soph changeling who happens to be Laura's love interest.

Antonia, a soph changeling who happens to be Laura's love interest this week.

There, FIFY

Astrodragon wrote: Antonia, a soph changeling who happens to be Laura's love interest this week.

There, FIFY

Could you say that Laura is a heartbreaker?

Ebola wrote:

Astrodragon wrote: Antonia, a soph changeling who happens to be Laura's love interest this week.

There, FIFY

Could you say that Laura is a heartbreaker?

If she's still got it three decades later, Antonia might not mind much.

Astrodragon wrote: Blood sisters isn't set in Whateley

Regular periods for all women are a myth. A lot of women have irregular ones, or ones every few months.
But one of the biggest RL reasons for them stopping seems to be lack of resources. The body seems to consider periods something that are nice, but can be postponed if necessary (yes, simplifying here). For example, its not uncommon to happen to serious professional athletes. Apparently the need to use calorie intake to build and maintain muscle - with not much extra, as that would turn into fat - causes them to stop having periods, or only have them rarely. Once they go off the strict regime, they go back to more normal periods. But it varies, it doesn't happen to all of them.

Now given what happened to Morgana, the medics don't consider it odd she hasn't had one yet. At some point, if she still hasn't started, they will investigate further.

Speculation on my part: Considering that Thulia is originally from the Plane of Fire, and, considering the life-cycles of entities made from elemental energy, and the optimum breeding patterns for those, it would not be without the realms of possibility that she would have to be in a warm place for her body to even consider conceiving.

Note, by "warm" place, i'm thinking blast furnace temperatures at absolute minimum...

Otherwise it would not be an envionment that was sufficient for a baby fire elemental to survive.

Other thought that struck me, has Dragonfyre been tested yet, to see what the maximum temperature that she can deal with?

If she can survive the really extreme climates, then it would be possible for her to go sun-diving, and have some interesting conversations with the really big, and old, fire elementals that choose to reside there.

You can almost guarantee that one of the science-geeks/testing-nerds will think of this.

Would they try to get her to visit the inside of a fusion reactor, just to see what happens...?

While testing her upper limits of heat generation she melted the testers' for sure absolutely fireproof testing suit.

What makes you think that elemental entities reproduce sexually? If they do so at all. I mean can they die? If they cannot they have no reason for reproduction at all. The ones I know can only be banished back into their plane of existence and possibly be killed there but I don't know if anyone can enter our fireplane in the WU.

Also she got her devilish good looks from Thulia and I don't know if she originates from the fireplane.

No, they haven't yet tested Morgana's upper heat limit.

The issue with very extreme environments is that they aren't just heat. For example a reactor puts out a load of energy in other forms, such as high energy particles.

Of course, we finally have a character to whom 'lava-bathing insane' doesn't apply

Hmm. I don't want to say too much about Thulia yet. There have been a few clues spotted into the stories.

Let's just say that sex WAS involved in her reproduction.

Now that I think about how to get more backstory for Thulia I imagine her walking into Whateley on Parents Day Might be fun having a full fledged demon casually walking around on campus. If that isn't already the case. With Whateley you never know.

Anyway I do hope to see more of Thulia soon I really liked her so far.

On the topic sun-bathing she might get in and might even survive that but there is no way she would ever get out. At least not technologically maybe by magic. Does the sun with all its heat radiation gravity and magic potential for many rituals and stuff disrupt magic? And would all those hazards trabslate through a portal?

Astrodragon wrote: Hmm. I don't want to say too much about Thulia yet. There have been a few clues spotted into the stories.

Let's just say that sex WAS involved in her reproduction.

She has a grandmother, after all... Which necessitates a mother...

Depends on what these terms mean to demons specifically. They be could be meant like mother earth or just an honorary title for the matron of the clan or something. But considering Astrodragon personal contribution you are probably right.

In terms of upper heat limit tests with our favourite author being a brit we don't have to worry about imperial units.

As an engineer, all heat measurements will be given in proper units, degrees Kelvin.

As to her family..well. there are hints in the concluding parts of her origin story.

Isn't Kelvin just Kelvin? Without degrees? And Kelvik is still way better than bloody Fahrenheit.

Oneiros wrote: Now that I think about how to get more backstory for Thulia I imagine her walking into Whateley on Parents Day Might be fun having a full fledged demon casually walking around on campus.

full-fledged demon walking around on Parent's Day? It's been done.

Really? In what story?

Oneiros wrote: Really? In what story?

In Gen 1. Sara's Dad, Gothmog popped in at her Parent's Day .

Oneiros wrote: Isn't Kelvin just Kelvin? Without degrees? And Kelvik is still way better than bloody Fahrenheit.

We need to keep it simple for the Americans...

Can Thulia get on campus? Gothmog is one thing, but Thulia hasn't reached that level of power. Her grandmother maybe, but Thulia was very upfront with Morgana and big-sis about her own limitations.

Also, wasn't part of Thulia's confirmation that Morgana made it to the school when Morgana passed through the wards and became invisible to her?

Are we way off base? Is an invitation for Morgana's "family and siblings" good enough to get Thulia through the wards?

Katssun wrote: Also, wasn't part of Thulia's confirmation that Morgana made it to the school when Morgana passed through the wards and became invisible to her?

That could be anti-scrying measures taking effect.

Katssun wrote: Are we way off base? Is an invitation for Morgana's "family and siblings" good enough to get Thulia through the wards?

IIRC, wording of invitations has tended to be very literal and technicalities count (adoption, blood-siblings, court- or self- appointed guardians), so most likely yes.

Astrodragon wrote:

Oneiros wrote: Isn't Kelvin just Kelvin? Without degrees? And Kelvik is still way better than bloody Fahrenheit.

We need to keep it simple for the Americans...

Aw... I was hoping that they were going to measure everything in degrees Rankine.

Katssun wrote: Can Thulia get on campus? Gothmog is one thing, but Thulia hasn't reached that level of power. Her grandmother maybe, but Thulia was very upfront with Morgana and big-sis about her own limitations.

Also, wasn't part of Thulia's confirmation that Morgana made it to the school when Morgana passed through the wards and became invisible to her?

Are we way off base? Is an invitation for Morgana's "family and siblings" good enough to get Thulia through the wards?

Gothmog had been previously summoned on to Whateley, so that may have allowed him to bypass the wards. Thulia may be able to cross the wards through the gate, but not manifest directly on campus.

As for Thulia visiting, Mrs. Carson's policy seemed to be as long as you behaved you could come visit on Parent's Day. Once you started misbehaving you had to leave, as seen with Chou's guardians and the jerk that attacked Imp. But Mrs. Carson is no longer in charge.

Of course, Whateley's equality provisons means that if you allow gods to visit, you have to allow demons too.

Although on previous experiences, the gods aremore of a nuisance...