Question [G2] Eisenmadel / Erica

Looking forward to seeing how one of my favorite fan-fic characters changes as she's brought into Canon. I do hope we'll get some occasion cameos with Penny too...

Yeah, sad Penny was put on a bus, even if it's a flying one ...

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Yeah, sad Penny was put on a bus, even if it's a flying one ...

Don't worry, you'll be seeing more of Penny soon enough. She won't show up too often, given that she's not going to Whateley, but she's still around.

I apparently have more reading to catch-up on, as I totally did not realize this was a fanfic character. That said, what little I gathered from the previews (and even less from Neo) made this one of my personally most anticipated characters. And so far I am not disappointed. Does her uncle show up in the fanfic?

Yes, as do the mentioned Nazis

Just remember that while there are a few characters that were originally fanfic, they have changed, as will the details of their origin, in order to fit better in G2.

Think of the earlier fanfics as accurate as a news report on CNN..

Right, so we should take it as accurately as someone whose tweaking out on acid and has only the vaguest idea as to the backstory. Gotcha.

Astrodragon wrote: Think of the earlier fanfics as accurate as a news report on CNN..

or ANY news show/channel

they all have their own slanted view of reality that effects their reporting.

Domoviye wrote: Right, so we should take it as accurately as someone whose tweaking out on acid and has only the vaguest idea as to the backstory. Gotcha.

Could be worse. He could have saif Fox.


I suspect that Erica will become involved in either whatever happens or the squid's robbery.

Hope so anyway.

btw.

On topic web comic

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Yeah, sad Penny was put on a bus, even if it's a flying one ...

Unfortunately, there really wasn't any good way to work her into the coming insanity of Part 2, and in any case her normal school year would have started several weeks ago. We're imagining that she and the grandparents were visiting the Big Apple for a Labor Day get-together with Erica's family.

I find it amusing that Erica's thread is mostly talking about Penny so far. I love both of them, though.

So, getting back to the actual topic, what do you think Oma's reaction is going to be in Part 3, when she discovers that her two charges left the hotel without calling?

Wasamon wrote: So, getting back to the actual topic, what do you think Oma's reaction is going to be in Part 3, when she discovers that her two charges left the hotel without calling?

But... but Oma... you were "occupied" and I DID leave a note...

Wow, it's been a year (minus three days) since the last post in this thread. Time to revive it, since her origin tale's begun!

And if this somehow turns into a Cousin Penny discussion again, feel free to make a thread for her, too

So maybe it's just me, but immediately after reading this I have an image in my head of 'Cousin Penny' bringing home a dazed and out of it brainwashed Nazi wonder boy recruit like her, bouncing up and down in front of her horrified adopted parents begging "can I keep it?!!"

Bringing home interesting strays seems more like Margit's shtick.

It is something you might see Penny say about a certain blue girl after giving up trying to mediate the argument about sauces that ensued after the three girls from the Midwest (one blue) just finished telling Erica's extended family (or you know, just Morgana) that, "No... barbecue is not the same thing as grilling."

And most certainly it's not done with hamburgers.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: So maybe it's just me, but immediately after reading this I have an image in my head of 'Cousin Penny' bringing home a dazed and out of it brainwashed Nazi wonder boy recruit like her, bouncing up and down in front of her horrified adopted parents begging "can I keep it?!!"

Not that it's much of a spoiler or anything (and those who remember the second half of Erica's old fic might recall as well), but that sort of describes how Margit introduced Adolf to her parents...

Rereading IDTWIKA-1 since there were so many details spread throughout that most flew right over my head the first time trough. And here I found something.

IDTWIKA-1 wrote: "Good. And you're convinced this new serum will be more ... effective than the last batch? You only had one ..."

"Two," the doctor interrupted sharply.

"Two successes ... out of fifteen trial subjects?"

"Sixteen, Herr Rolf," the Major corrected, still stroking his monk-cat. "The fourteen failures were unfortunate, but that is the price of success. And that is a significant improvement over the first two tests."

"It is going to be difficult to cover up another series of 'disappearances' and mysterious deaths," Herr Rolf sighed heavily. "Oh well, so be it. It is the price of our ... project."

"With the new protocols, failures should seem like natural causes," the Doctor interrupted again.

"I hope so. It was most expensive keeping the questions to a minimum on the last test set," Herr Rolf growled. "And the two subjects?" He changed the subject.

"Are both under observation," the Major reported instantly. "Conveniently at the same location, where our operatives are monitoring them and are ready to step in to protect them if necessary."

These two correcting Herr Rolf on the number of successes are referring to Erica who was completely unexpected in their plans. That means one other student at Whateley managed to survive the same serum.

Then in part 6, Laura receives a cryptic message to meet in the woods and is protected by an inside student working for Stauffer when the boy shoots a dart at the girl planning to jump Laura (Stahlfaust most probably, or some student she delegated the job to). Does that mean that Laura is the other girl that survived the serum? It doesn't fit with her Gen2 intro, but I can't help but feel there's something between Laura and Erica and the Nazis.

Unless Wasamon has significantly changed the rest of Erica's story, her serum is something different. Of course, I can imagine her transformation being claimed as someone else's credit (especially as both the success and trial numbers were inflated by one).

You're making the assumption that Frau Doktor Stauffer works with the Green Cross Nazis. Which may or may not be true; if it is a false assumption, then one would have to consider whether the bad doctor Stauffer even knows about Green Cross, or Eisenmadel's serum. If they are working together, then things might be even more complicated.

Time will tell.

Trying to group all the Nazi's together into one group is kinda like trying to say all the Martial Arts using Asians are of the same group...

Having said that... I've not studied them in detail but just casually seeing the news stories about NeoNazis/White Supremacists/Alt-right/Illinois Nazis (sorry, Blues Brothers made me include that one)/Etc shows me that there are lots of groups of them and while they may agree on some of the broader points a lot of them disagree on some key issues... So it wouldn't be off-base to assume that a bunch of them work together but that they'd butt heads and not get along at points in that relationship.

Heh, and that others may fight like cats and dogs.

I would expect that by now all the "underground Nazi groups" have lost any sense of unity and waste 90% of their time fighting each other. Sorta like communist groups in Brazil in the late 70s, or the various Jew Liberation groups in "Life of Brian..."

Lillian von Groenwald's inner monologue would support that line of reasoning. For her, most of the modern Nazi community could be classified as either posers or relics who have not realized that the Third Reich fell apart for a good reason, so why celebrate/fetishize its imagery so much? Identify the core focus of the ideology (according to her and her father), realign the priorities, and full steam ahead on the road to hell.

So, I am curious if Erica will betray her promise to Calliope... but I see a possible fix. The idiot so taken with Calliope... He seems almost redeemable. A fixer upper. Somehow I can just see him and Erica winding up on a date neither asked for, but getting along real well