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Important Canon stories finished migration - Correction List

8 years 3 months ago - 7 years 3 months ago #1 by Phoenix Spiritus
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  • OK, as far as I can see Kristin has finished moving the canon stories to their final homes, so as promised, the "little things to fix" thread.

    If you see things wrong with the Canon stories please post in this topic and I'll start compiling a list so that the editors can fix things.

    First SOME SUGGESTIONS!

    Suggestion 1: Keep it polite.
    All the editors have real jobs and aren't getting paid to do this, if your post makes us want to reach through the screen and grab you by the throat, well, something has to be last on the "to-do" list

    Suggestion 2: Give us enough information to fix the issue.
    As a general rule, tell us which story, what's wrong, what it currently is, what it should be. Copy and past is your friend, if you copy out enough for us to use to find the error, its more likely we can find it an fix it.

    Suggestion 3: Be Patient
    Crawling through pages of code / stories to find and fix a typo is not exactly the most interesting thing to do, we need to get in the right mood to fix things, might take a little bit of time for your particular issue to be fixed.

    Suggestion 4: Be thorough
    The is nothing worse then getting drip feed single mistakes at a time over and over again for the same story. If you are going to post mistakes in a story, try and post all of them so we can do the whole story at once.

    Other then that, let it rip guys, I know lots of you have been storing them up for us.
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    8 years 3 months ago - 7 years 3 months ago #2 by Phoenix Spiritus
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    Date wrong of story (Admin Required)
    * I Looked into the Abyss, and it Winked (Part 2) (out of order with other parts)
    * Being Merry In Spite Of It All: Merry #6c dated same as 6A and therefore before 6B

    Pending Editorial Decision (whether to migrate / where to migrate too)
    * Fey: Learning Curve
    * Heyoka 3: Survival Class
    * Wild Times

    Already resolved issues:
    Warning: Spoiler! [ Click to expand ]
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  • Internal story errors/formatting/typos/etc.

    When I migrated stories, I did my best to leave them as-is, the way they were originally posted at the old site. So those stories will contain misspellings, odd formatting issues (Diane changed the way she formatted stories between chapters), whether these should or can be fixed is up to Kristin and the other canon authors.

    The same thing with titles, if the author put the title in all caps, so did I. I did change the way some chapters/parts were titled to keep entire stories consistent.

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    8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #4 by Kristin Darken
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  • In general, we are likely to prioritize those issues in this order:
    1. Story not actually migrate in (the list we were working from was wrong, or we just messed up somehow)
    2. Prevent people from reading a the story when they should (ie improper original publishing date skewing its placement in the list, wrong name, error in loading the story, etc).
    3. Things that prevent a story from being properly credited (inaccurate byline or CMS Author/Alias attribution, lack of editor)
    4. Bad format making it hard to read
    5. Typos
    6. Story edits (some things have been typos or incorrect details in the posted story for years, they'll hold for a few more months)

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    8 years 3 months ago - 7 years 3 months ago #5 by Sir Lee
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    OK. I have a couple "little things" to suggest...

    First one: "Straight from the Squirrel's Mouth." There are two Chapter 5 of the story, one of them with the filename "Chapter 6".
    And, consequently, the actual Chapter 6 has a filename of "Chapter 7"... and so on until the last part, "Chapter 10" which has a filename of "Chapter 11".
    Also, Chapter 6 is dated way out of sequence with the rest (months after Chapter 10). I do believe that the Chapters 7-10 also have minor dating discrepancies.

    Second one: the three parts of Caitlin's origin story lost their overall title, which is "Upheaval". That is, they should be named "Upheaval: Instructor", "Upheaval: Walking Alone" and "Upheaval: New Friends, New Problems."

    If those things ARE changed (and the change affects the URLs for the stories), please post a notice in this thread so we can update the Wiki links accordingly.

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    8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #6 by Phoenix Spiritus
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  • Just a note, if you link to the stories cutting off the URL at the number it still works, and changes to the story title / position don't seem to effect the link working.

    i.e. use " whateleyacademy.net/index.php/original-timeline/257 " instead of " whateleyacademy.net/index.php/original-t...evenge-of-the-alphas "
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  • OK, that can work... although I tend to prefer to use the more human-readable full URL because, well, it's easier to tell if you goofed when editing.

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    8 years 3 months ago - 7 years 3 months ago #8 by mittfh
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    Two duplicates not yet mentioned: Anecdotal Antidote Apocalypse (#396 and #442), Chou 5: Aftermath (#295 and #394).

    Meanwhile, the Fan Wiki's List of Canon Stories has been updated to mid-December (essentially, any entry with a darker yellow background) - report any oddities there in the Wiki Wiki Wiki thread over in The Quad.

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  • I would add another group to the Master List

    Pending Editorial Decision on whether to migrate at all:
    * Fey: Learning Curve
    * Heyoka 3: Survival Class
    * Wild Times

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  • By the way, I repurposed the "Unmigrated" category in the Wiki to include stories which still have potential wiki-impacting issues. Those would be, for instance, the duplicated ones -- after the duplication is resolved, I have to check if we weren't pointed to the one which was deleted. Also, stories that are liable to be renamed.

    I didn't include things like date issues and capitalization issues because those don't affect the URLs -- the URLs are all lowercase anyway -- so changing them in-place shouldn't have repercussions.

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    8 years 3 months ago - 7 years 3 months ago #11 by Valentine
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    I will post the missing stories tonight.

    The Power of Cute is missing an image at the end. I don't have it.

    Tea with a Serpent is also missing an image at the beginning of both chapters.

    All of the missing stories have been entered, with the above missing elements.

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  • I fixed the images, they are now attached.
    8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #13 by Sir Lee
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  • As far as I could determine, the migration team is DONE with everything that was ever officially published as Whateley canon. And, given the size of the job, it was done in an amazingly short time. There are still a few things to be tweaked, but the stories themselves are available, which is the important thing.

    Now that the main job is done, it's time to look at the secondary things, to wit:

    1. Auxiliary non-canon material. This comprises, but is not limited to:
    * Author interviews (AFAIK, only Bek's has not been migrated yet)
    * Articles (a few were migrated, but is there any one missing?)
    * Teasers (already on the list awaiting Kristin's ruling) (*)
    * Notable fanfics (Brandy's done, Renae's in the queue, but are there any others?)
    * April Fool stories (Kristin's and Diane's have been migrated, Tensai's and Drunkfu's haven't, Doc Bender's was pulled from the old site but now that we had years to cool down, maybe we could reopen the matter for discussion.)

    2. The Library. I haven't looked at it, but I suppose there might be quite a bunch of stories there to be migrated.

    (*) Note on the teasers:
    The Wiki lists a few more teasers in the "List of Canon Stories", but I'm not sure about migrating those other ones.
    -I'm pretty sure that the one by E.E. Nalley has already seen the light of day inside another story, although I can't prove it because I apparently deleted my copy. Anyway, E.E. is an active author and can make up his own mind on the subject.
    -Kristin is also active, so if she wants to repost her teaser it's her own decision.
    - Tensai's two ones are actually listed as fanfics. So, the decision to migrate or not those should be remanded to the notable fanfics discussion.
    - J.G. has two listed. One is actually a teaser for the next chapter for his pre-canon fanfic saga. So, as above, it depends on whatever criteria Kristin establishes for migrating fanfics.
    The other one might fit with the three already under discussion, but the thing is... it does not add any additional understanding of the Whateley Universe.

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  • no reason to repost my teaser, the story is in the pipeline to release ... probably next month. as soon as Odds and Ends is wrapped up and we start the Fall quarter.

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  • Before CH encountered its problems, Dr. Bender's April Fool was still published (hence how I was able to provide a word count several years after publication) - the links pointing to it were just removed. However, I can't remember the filename if it still exists, so can't point you to it.

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  • Dr Bender's April Fool story was called 'The Revelation' if that's any help in finding the filename.

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  • As someone who wasn't around then, could I be edified in what made Dr. Bender's April Fools story distressing enough that it was pulled?

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  • Was 'huge' overreactions. HUGE. People were panicking that someone could potentially read it and think that it was REAL. That we would really make these prank stories canon and throw years of effort in the crapper just for one April Fool's joke. And we couldn't possibly leave them posted on the site because someone might just happen across them and not realize they were April Fools joke stories!

    Ya... keep in mind that this was the same period of time in which the fan base aggressively pushed out multiple authors.

    But, admittedly, it was probably a bit risky to have on the site - we are pretty careful to keep the issue of underage relationships / sex off-camera for the most part, while still being realistic about it (we know its happening, but we're not making erotica about it). Basically the same point that we make with the policy about it at Whateley. And B's prank story did cross that line. So ...

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  • WARNING - DO NOT READ THIS SPOILER UNLESS YOU ARE 18+ AND ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE YOURSELF TO CONTENT THAT IS OF AN ADULT SEXUAL NATURE.


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    One more tale which appears to have escaped unnoticed (until now) - Dream Quest of the Underage Taoist (originally published 6th June 2010).

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  • No, I think that it has already been migrated... let me see...
    ...yeah, here it is:

    whateleyacademy.net/index.php/original-t...-the-underage-taoist

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    8 years 2 months ago - 8 years 2 months ago #22 by mittfh
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  • Following Sir Lee's link, I get "Error - You are not authorised to view this resource." so you may need to double check its access settings...
    [EDIT] Now available - thanks!

    Meanwhile, a couple of minor (trivial) errors I've spotted, for the very back end of the "To do" priority list...

    Loose Cannons 1: There's a rogue "</p" at the end.
    Saks and Violence: 'Self Destruct Trigger. DO NOT TOUCH!' The red text should end there, but continues to the end of the paragraph.

    -oOo-

    Checking the publishing dates against the Wiki (as many tales appear to have a publish date over here one day later than at Crystal Hall, which may be due to stuff published a few hours either side of midnight appearing to be on different dates in different localeds), there are a few with significantly different dates that might be worth checking:

    Hive 1: What's Buzzing You? Wiki: 2006-05-09, Here: 2008-05-09
    Molly 2: Summoning Tactics Wiki: 2008-08-10, Here: 2008-10-09
    Merry 6c: Being Merry In Spite Of It All Wiki: 2007-08-05, Here: 2006-06-07
    Lily 3 p1: A Wellspring of Sorrows, Part 1 Wiki: 2009-05-17, Here: 2006-05-08

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  • Whoever is transferring Library stuff... you don't need to put Library in the title... I know which stories are library ones. (besides any Canon story will have "Whateley Academy Tale / Vignette at the top" and any Fan fic will / should have the fan fic disclaimer in it.

    But thanks for starting in on those. :)

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    8 years 2 months ago #24 by Phoenix Spiritus
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  • Just wanted to make it easy :)
    8 years 2 months ago - 8 years 2 months ago #25 by Phoenix Spiritus
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  • OK, so I've been migrating the Library stories, and I noticed for Bek D. Corbin's Anathema series, there is supposed to be two final parts, six and seven, and they where posted not to the Library section, but to the forums section.

    Sooo, anyone have the final two parts as forum posts so I can post them here?

    Also, seriously, does anyone have all the stories posted by the authors into that special forum they had so I can just migrate them over in one big batch?

    Also, for those that are good at seeing what I missed, with the exception of two library stories (Tangled up in green, 16 parts & Maiden by Decree, 23 parts) I believe everything else has been migrated, and with the exception of two other stories (Dead Heroes & Dead Girls Don't Cry) all are viewable now (Kristin is still fixing publishing dates and stuff), so if you're not seeing something you believe should be there, now's the time to let me know.
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  • I almost certainly have all the stories the canon authors posted to the forums (with my usual caveats that they were formatted and sometimes slightly proofed for my personal consumption) -- but they there isn't any easy way to tell which ones came from the forums; if you ask for a particular story, I can see if I have it.

    In this particular case, yes, I do have all seven parts (27 chapters) of Anathema, plus a cast list appendix. It's a single nicely-formatted HTML file which I can send it to you if you want.

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    8 years 2 months ago - 8 years 2 months ago #27 by Phoenix Spiritus
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  • Thanks, please send it too me, if its the only copy we have I'll post it as a single "Part 6". Since there's no way we can reproduce the forum versions on the new site, the post are going to get re-edited by me anyway, so I don't mind "cleaned up" ones here as much.

    If anyone has the original forum versions so I could work out which chapters where "part 6" and which "part 7" I would be grateful.
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    Maiden is missing parts 13, and 17, if the Posted For Review menu is right...
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  • 13 doesn't exist (read 14 to see), and 17 I made a mistake with that Kristin will need to fix.
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  • It's in the e-mail. You shouldn't have any problem telling which chapters are "part 6" -- the breaks are clearly indicated on the text.

    Although I just noticed that I forgot to fix the scene separator images, so instead of a nice image you will see three asterisks (* * *). It shouldn't be a problem.

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  • "Maiden by Decree" has a total of 30 chapters plus an epilogue (that's including Chapter 13, which has no actual content).

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  • The full story is also over on Big Closet if missing parts cannot be found.

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  • Only upto chapter 24 was in the library section, if the other parts where in the forum, I'll off course need them sent to me
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  • OK, Kristin sent me a Library backup from the old site and I found some more stories in there I was not aware off, I'll migrate them as I have time.

    Only Maiden Chapters 1 - 24 was posted to our site, the best I can suggest is putting a comment into the last one telling people the rest are posted at BCTS.

    I left up Sir Lee's version of Part 6 of Anathema as it has extra information from somewhere (it not in the part six version from Kristin's package).

    Other then that, the only thing I suppose I'm still looking for is anything posted to the old "Authors forum" that isn't already migrated to this site.
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  • Extra information? I really can't remember if I got it from somewhere else. It's possible that either Bek posted an enlarged version somewhere else (like BigCloset -- it's way easier to get a story from BC than from the forums, so I might have gotten it there, if there was the option), or that she posted a "patch" separately in a different part of the forums, like the comment threads.

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    Hey, Phoenix, I just wanted to point out that it also seems you've somehow missed adding Part 17 of Maiden by Decree. I was reading through the story yesterday and stumbled across the gap.

    ... . . -.- / .--- ..- ... - .. -.-. . .-.-.- / .-.. --- ...- . / -- . .-. -.-. -.-- .-.-.- / .-- .- .-.. -.- / .... ..- -- -... .-.. -.-- / .-- .. - .... / -.-- --- ..- .-. / --. --- -.. .-.-.-
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  • Part 17 is migrated.

    I miss set its permissions and it went into an area I can't control and Kristin will need to fix it...

    But I did migrate it!

    (Also, technically all these are posted in the Fan Fiction sections still, you can only see them because you are Fan Fiction authorised. Non-FanFiction members won't see them at all until Kristin moves them into the Library section of the site.)
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  • Ah, gotcha. My bad then, Phoenix.

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  • If you want to read the story the whole lot is posted to Big Closet

    http://bigclosetr.us/topshelf/book/8375/maiden-decree
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    The three Upheaval stories (Instructor, Walking Alone, and New Friends, New Problems) are listed in reverse order (i.e. Instructor, the first story, is above the other two in the stories list). I would guess that it's partially because they were all published on the same day.

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  • Kristin has still yet to have time to properly correct the dates for the Library stories. Taking about three minutes each to do, and with nearly 50 posts to do (and counting, I still have about 25 more to migrate) its a more then 4 hour job that neither Kristin nor Warren (the only two that can do it) have had time for yet.

    Also, I worked out the difference between Sir Lee's copy of Anathema and the copy in the Library backups, the "backups" only had part 7, not part 6, so since Sir Lee's was Part 6 and 7, that's why it had there was more to it.

    I split Sir Lee's version into Parts 6 & 7 and posted separately, so now the material is back in the posting form Bek originally had.
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  • OK, all Library posts have been migrated, and all but two of them have been moved to the Library section (though Kristin hasn't yet had time to correct the dates).

    I put a post in the comments for Maiden by Decree 24 pointing people to BCTS for the ending.

    Please let me know if you spot any issues other then the dates.
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    Er... does that include Doc Bender's Lucifer's Daughter? It's supposed to have been posted to the forums.

    Also, E.E. Nalley's Whom Gods Destroy.

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  • OK, by coincidence Bender just (enthusiastically) authorized migration of Lucifer's Daughter. I'll have both on your mailbox pretty soon.

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    This is library rather than canon, but.... In Part 2 of 'No Time for Second Chances', it appears that about half of Part 1 was appended, starting with the following line:

    >>> [Session terminated automatically at 08:20 per user request. Have a nice day.]<<<<<

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  • Phoenix Spiritus wrote: OK, all Library posts have been migrated, and all but two of them have been moved to the Library section (though Kristin hasn't yet had time to correct the dates).

    I put a post in the comments for Maiden by Decree 24 pointing people to BCTS for the ending.

    Please let me know if you spot any issues other then the dates.


    Have dates been fixed yet? 'Cause (Library)No Time For Second Chances (Part 1) is off.
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  • People asking about library material dates being fixed... let me ask... why does it matter? :)

    the Library isn't a list of things that must be read in order to make sense. within the context of a series of stories? Yes. Within context of one story compared to another, no. So while I'm not averse to eventually spending a little time clarifying when said stories originally published just for historical accuracy... I'm not seeing any value to prioritizing that over other things that need doing.

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  • Kristin Darken wrote: People asking about library material dates being fixed... let me ask... why does it matter? :)


    ... Well, I asked 'cause No Time For Second Chances (Part 1) isn't collected with the other parts of the story in the Library section due to its date placing it several pages after the other 10 parts.

    So, really, I should have asked for a re-dating to something from March 19 2016, to place it before Part 2... ... What the heck? Part 2 has a year of -0001...
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  • cprime wrote: This is library rather than canon, but.... In Part 2 of 'No Time for Second Chances', it appears that about half of Part 1 was appended, starting with the following line:

    >>> [Session terminated automatically at 08:20 per user request. Have a nice day.]<<<<<


    Fixed, Thank you for the heads up.

    Malady wrote:

    Kristin Darken wrote: People asking about library material dates being fixed... let me ask... why does it matter? :)


    ... Well, I asked 'cause No Time For Second Chances (Part 1) isn't collected with the other parts of the story in the Library section due to its date placing it several pages after the other 10 parts.

    So, really, I should have asked for a re-dating to something from March 19 2016, to place it before Part 2... ... What the heck? Part 2 has a year of -0001...


    Technically Part 1 has been fixed, and the other parts need to be updated to be the same.

    To again do the numbers, there are 110 Library story posts that need their dates fixed, at an average of about 3 minutes each to fix (saving stories in the system seems to take forever, believe me, after doing it hundreds of times, I know) so we are talking 110 x 3 = 330 minutes ÷ 60 = 5 and a half hours to fix them.

    Five and half boring hours to fix them.

    Please, give Kristin a break, that's mind numbing work.

    … And yes, I'm aware that fixing the issue with Part 2 has put it out of order, I'm sorry, I can't get it back into order (and I tried editing Part 3 as well, it didn't work), so I'm sorry, please feel free to sort the Library via Tittle or Author until Kristin can fix my mistakes.
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  • Phoenix Spiritus wrote: sort the Library via Title or Author


    ... Oh! That's possible... That's what I get for changing my screen's colors. I miss things. :pinch:
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  • Phoenix Spiritus wrote: ...Snip...
    Five and half boring hours to fix them.

    Please, give Kristin a break, that's mind numbing work.

    … And yes, I'm aware that fixing the issue with Part 2 has put it out of order, I'm sorry, I can't get it back into order (and I tried editing Part 3 as well, it didn't work), so I'm sorry, please feel free to sort the Library via Tittle or Author until Kristin can fix my mistakes.


    I would have thought that the really important thing was that the story had been salvaged and reposted not how it happens to be entered in the listing. Phoenix, Kristen and all the other 'elves' helping behind the scenes deserve many kudos for their hard work.

    John.
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  • OK,

    Kristin gave me editing privileges, so I've gone through fixing the titles to all the original canon stories, they should all now be in Title Case with the chapters / parts in brackets.

    If you spot any continuing issues, let me know.
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    There are some editing issues in whateleyacademy.net/index.php/original-t...44-chaka-duel-damsel . From the looks of things, whoever did the conversion goofed when stripping newlines, and words are running together, at the rate of about every 60 characters.

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    cprime wrote: There are some editing issues in whateleyacademy.net/index.php/original-t...44-chaka-duel-damsel . From the looks of things, whoever did the conversion goofed when stripping newlines, and words are running together, at the rate of about every 60 characters.


    Messaged Phoenix about that, last night, so it's gonna be taken care of?

    ... And as to not just be a confirmation... Also notified (him?) of the sentences broken by line spaces in Glimpses of the Sun.
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  • Just keep posting the issues, I'll get around to fixing them :)

    Just a note, if you could copy paste the problem text and tell me it, it makes it a lot easier to fix.

    Most of our stories are 20+K words long, when your reading it, the problems stick out. When I'm scanning through trying to find something wrong, its got to be pretty obvious for me to find it. If I need to read line by line through a whole storey to fix just a couple of issues, its going to take forever for me to fix everything :(
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  • I tried to fix the broken sentences in Glimpses of the Sun, and the missing spaces in Dual Damsel.

    If I've missed some places, please provide information so I can find them, I've already looked through multiple times and I haven't found them, saying "there are more" is not helping me find and fix them.
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    Phoenix Spiritus wrote: I tried to fix the broken sentences in Glimpses of the Sun, and the missing spaces in Dual Damsel.

    If I've missed some places, please provide information so I can find them, I've already looked through multiple times and I haven't found them, saying "there are more" is not helping me find and fix them.


    Right... I forgot to do that... Or should have thought of that when I logged on today...

    Thankfully, Glimpses of the Sun is a bit shorter than most? ... Gonna try and find that word count sheet... Oh, right I have a local copy... Getting the shortest stories and checking them for errors... Maybe.

    Working on Duel Damsel first...

    Broken Sentences in Glimpses of the Sun [ Click to expand ]


    There isn't a time delay between you updating and me receiving on refresh, right?
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  • Thank's Malady, fixed those issues now.

    There's not a "time delay" as such, just me doing one story, moving onto the next, and so on, and only getting back to reading the comments later after I've "fixed" 2 stories and also some Author names (to be consistent for all stories).

    i.e., I'm working my way through the list :)

    Also Im fixing, republishing, checking for more faults, fixing, republishing, etc. round and round till I make it all the way through a scan of the published story and don't find another fault. Unfortunately, if you are going through the same story I'm doing, it could be changing each and every time you refresh as I update a newly "fixed" version.

    But I've stopped now, its time for me to sleep :)
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    Dual Damsel notes:
    Warning: Spoiler! [ Click to expand ]


    I wasn't aware of Malady's message, and hopefully I'm not staring at a stale copy.

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    Duel Damsel Typos to be corrected:

    cprime wrote: I wasn't aware of Malady's message, and hopefully I'm not staring at a stale copy.


    You've got some I haven't gotten around to at the time you posted... Or missed... Here's the fusion of our lists.

    Warning: Spoiler! [ Click to expand ]
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  • It's strange, not all of those errors are at the end of typed lines, some are in the middle.

    Phoenix, I have unedited copies of all the stories from the old site, minus artwork if you need them.

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  • Thanks Valentine, I actually still have the stories too, but in this case editing the mistakes in the system is probably faster then re-doing the whole migration.

    There's something different about this story as it's the only one that did this, so I'd need to work out what that was, or I could just fix a few more typos :)
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  • Moderator: Can you give me the sentences where these words are used please?

    whateleyacademy.net/index.php/content-me...es/123-a-simple-game

    Haven't looked over A Simple Game at all. Just putting these two-three here... Nevermind... [ Click to expand ]


    ... And now I'm looking over it when I should be sleeping!!! :(

    Still haven't gone through the whole thing. Just stopped at 'immanence'.
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  • OK, did another run again at Dual Damsel, please let me know if I've still missed some issues.

    For those wondering why this story has issues, it has a lot more HTML code in it then other stories, and its managed to be "cleaned up" in our CMS system. All the issues are where HTML code butts up against text, and its very hard to pick that a space got missed in the cleanup.
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    Only one more miss that I saw in Dual Damsel:
    "What is this about youcalling out some guy in Twain?" (you calling)

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  • cprime wrote: Only one more miss that I saw in Dual Damsel:
    "What is this about youcalling out some guy in Twain?" (you calling)


    Thanks, fixed it.
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    Standardizing capitalization of The Best Days of Our Lives?

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  • Malady wrote: Standardizing capitalization of The Best Days of Our Lives?

    Warning: Spoiler! [ Click to expand ]


    Done
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    "I Don't Think we're in Kansas Anymore" is missing capitalization of We're for Parts 5 and 6?
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  • Malady wrote: "I Don't Think we're in Kansas Anymore" is missing capitalization of We're for Parts 5 and 6?


    Fixed.
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  • Uh... some of the tags are... well... confusing.
    Take, for instance, the "Canon (Original)" tag, which I found via the tag cloud at left...

    whateleyacademy.net/index.php/component/...ag/77-canon-original

    What IS that listing supposed to be? It includes both Whateley and non-Whateley stories.

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  • It's not a tag, its a tag category.... why its in the cloud? Hell if I know.

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  • I found this one over there. Arc or Story Series.

    whateleyacademy.net/index.php/component/tags/tag/105-arc-or-story-series

    I don't normally pay attention to it.

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    Missing tags for
    Even Murphy’s Law has Loopholes
    A Lit Chix Story
    By Joe Gunnarson and E.E. Nalley

    Chapters 2 and 3 are missing Joe Gunnarson tags
    ( they don't show in the story list under his name / tag. They are under E. E. Nalley )

    Stupidity is a capitol offense, a summary not indictable one.
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  • Dawnfyre wrote: Missing tags for
    Even Murphy’s Law has Loopholes
    A Lit Chix Story
    By Joe Gunnarson and E.E. Nalley

    Chapters 2 and 3 are missing Joe Gunnarson tags
    ( they don't show in the story list under his name / tag. They are under E. E. Nalley )


    Unlike the other chapters, these two are stated as being written by E. E. Nalley only in the story heading.

    The tags match the headings, so seem fine to me.
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  • if you come across the story using Joe's tag, then you get the impression of 2 chapters being missed in the migration.
    it's only if you use EE's tag that you get those 2 chapters showing.

    it might be incorrect to give Joe author credit for them, but it will save getting reports of missing chapters from those who don't check the other tags.

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  • OK, so maybe it's the librarian in me, but if the story does not list someone as the writer, then I'm not going to tag that person to the story.
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    The older stories need that stop-point thing that cuts it off when previewing.

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    Merry Descent Into Madness has at least 2 3 4 typos.

    Typos wrote: Decent -> Descent

    Brintney Spears -> Britney Spears

    verses -> Versus

    Its not surprising is it? -> It's not surprising is it?


    Gonna stop editing this.
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  • Hi Malady,

    Yeah I know about the read more tag. I got through doing the first six pages of the original stories, but there is 134 pages of stories yet to do just for the Original Canon stories, not to mention the 2nd Gen, Library, etc. luckily WhatIF stories are so new, all them have it :)

    Feel free to write up lists of things to fix here, I'll get around to them eventually :)
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  • Perhaps update the 1st/2nd post with Current Issues, so we don't bother you with things you already know about or make a new one at this point and link from 1st post or something, if you're hitting message length limits.

    Or we could just remember to read through the whole thread before posting...
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  • It's here somewhere... with the other April Fool shorts. Where that is... I don't remember offhand. If its important, I can go admin side and search for it.

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  • I was just wondering about it 'cause I saw it was a red link in the Wiki.
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  • There are a few things that were tabled for future discussion regarding if they should be migrated and... sorta got forgotten. The April Fools stories are one. The teasers for stories that never got finished are another.

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  • No, the April Fool's stories got migrated, then in a cleanup Kristin put them together somewhere and I think she forgot to link to that section of the site in the menu system.

    I just tried all the menus and I could not find them anymore.

    The teasers were never migrated, that's true.
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  • I believe that Tensai's April Fools story and Brandy DeWinter's story were on that list because they weren't part of the Whateley Canon that permission to move was implicit.

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  • Brandy's story is in the Featured WhatIF stories, as is Renee's non-Canon story.

    I think that was the major re-org when the April Fool's stories got accidentally removed from the menus.
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  • My April Fools 2010 story and Dianes are both there in the Canon list. It looks like Tensai's is not currently in the files. Brandy's story is definitely in the Featured WhatIF stuff. Technically, that's probably where we should put the April Fools stories... because despite the 'joke' being in canon, the stories and their contents are not.

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  • Hmmm. Yeah, I guess since the stories are non-canon, the Featured WhatIF is the best place to put them. OTOH, there was a suggestion at the time that some aspects of the GEO one were actually canon and not seen yet anywhere else...

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  • Yes, my story had elements of the 'real' GEO plotline in it that have not been seen elsewhere. But the story as a whole was not canon. As I said at the time, the best part of that 'prank' is that most of it is true... weeding out which parts are not is the fun part (for me). :P

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    ^ - Yeah, picking out what's canon and what's not, is fun indeed!

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    Incorrect tagging: "Spark" as "/Spark" : whateleyacademy.net/index.php/component/.../119-names-pov-spark

    Only story: whateleyacademy.net/index.php/original-t...ine/372-the-big-idea

    ... While cool, she's Spark, not /Spark.

    ***

    Typos in stories [ Click to expand ]
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    What is this tag: Names/PoV/Anomaly ?

    And its only story, whose link doesn't work. ... Also, the "/Spark" tag as mentioned above.
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  • Malady wrote: What is this tag: Names/PoV/Anomaly ?

    And its only story, whose link doesn't work. ... Also, the "/Spark" tag as mentioned above.


    It's a tag that needs to be fixed to appear correctly, like with Spark. When we see the tags to be added to the stories they include slashes and categories and such... but they have to be edited to appear without them on the backend. they'll get fixed-up when we can.

    And we'll get the story link straightened out too...
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  • Malady wrote: What is this tag: Names/PoV/Anomaly ?

    And its only story, whose link doesn't work. ... Also, the "/Spark" tag as mentioned above.


    It's an Anomaly!
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  • JG wrote:

    Malady wrote: What is this tag: Names/PoV/Anomaly ?

    And its only story, whose link doesn't work. ... Also, the "/Spark" tag as mentioned above.


    It's an Anomaly!


    Oh! It's the Anomaly Origin! ... Small Mercies ... That is so mysterious due to lack of info! Is Anomaly even a mutant, I wonder... :pinch:

    ... Wait... "an Anomaly"... One mutant across multiple bodies, permanently? *Shrugs*

    I guess I could interpret that tag name wrong and have Names and PoV as codenames, but I guess there's noone who'd codename themselves Names or PoV... Although, there are the Protagonist and the Narrator, IIRC... Mmm...
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  • I'll find time to fight with the tags system someday, I promise. Maybe I'll start a gofundme project for this summer and I'll put in a list of things to add/do for the site that will be accomplished depending on how much time is 'funded'. It'd be an interesting alternative to finding a summer gig...

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  • ^ Well, with the wiki cataloguing as well, the tag issue is mitigated, and Search seems to be working well enough, at least for me?
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  • Kristin Darken wrote: My April Fools 2010 story and Dianes are both there in the Canon list. It looks like Tensai's is not currently in the files. Brandy's story is definitely in the Featured WhatIF stuff. Technically, that's probably where we should put the April Fools stories... because despite the 'joke' being in canon, the stories and their contents are not.


    I can't move things once they are published, you'll need to do this Kristin.
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  • Malady wrote: Perhaps update the 1st/2nd post with Current Issues, so we don't bother you with things you already know about or make a new one at this point and link from 1st post or something, if you're hitting message length limits.

    Or we could just remember to read through the whole thread before posting...


    I updated the second post, and I tried to go through all these postings and add a moderator comment to the ones that have been fixed.

    But honestly, if you see a mistake, create a post, I don't mind double posts if it helps me remember what needs to be done.
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  • Minor Issue:

    Diamonds Are a Vamp's Best Friend (Part 1)

    If it's Sir Wallace Westmont, then this:

    "Because I knew that it was the surest way that all of you would come and eavesdrop," Sir William said puckishly. Then his urbane smile faded and his genial tone went hard. "Which is also the reason why I asked you all here."

    "As is THIS," Miss Hagarty reached over to the lapel of Westmore's jacket and pulled out what looked like a straight clothing pin with a slightly oversized head.


    Sir William -> Sir Wallace

    Westmore's -> Westmont's
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    This isn't a content issue, but more of a permissions issue. One of the Caregiver stories (I believe it's whateleyacademy.net/index.php/the-librar...-the-song-of-corazon based on the view count) is not available to the general public.Not a huge issue, but I noticed a mismatch between the article count and article list when I was looking at the category last night.

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  • I don't think it's that one. I can read it just fine, even when not logged in.

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  • It was that one but Phoenix has fixed it.
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  • Please stop posting links to access controlled documents in open forums. Every time you do so, it generates a potential for THOUSANDS of file not found or you aren't authorized to see that document reports. You may think you're doing people a favor by giving them a shortcut... but you're actually costing us time and money (when the site generates too many errors, Google shuts down ad revenue until problems are addressed).

    Yes, I understand that this one wasn't meant to be restricted... that is beside the point.

    I left the article names based on title in place because it makes things simpler for the people running the WIKI. If this sort of snooping around behind the surface continues, I will have to resort to using more secure document access methods and it will no longer be possible to directly link to specific stories from outside the site. It would really suck if we lost the ability to link info in the wiki to the stories that info came from... just because some people couldn't wait for us to release stories when they were ready and had to go poking around for information that they weren't supposed to have access to.

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  • Less politely: quit trying to datamine the site for more information than what we have released.
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  • So, should all the Gen2 stories have the Generation 2 Tag? Because currently, only Following the Path of Cute has it.

    How should we be reporting tagging issues? Links to tags? Or can tags just be selected just by knowing what they're called, such that me saying that the "Nikki" tag only has 1 story on it, is enough for you guys to know what I'm talking about?

    ... Oh, wait... Is tag modding and tag adding an Admin-only thing? ... Well, sorry, if that's the case. ... Gonna try and find a Feedback page for the Starting Points series so that I could possibly help there.
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  • Tagging everything is NOT a planned project, let alone an active project. If something doesn't have tags, it doesn't have tags. There's a damn good chance that if we DO get around to implementing a working tag system that be used from the front end, that it will clear all the existing tags, anyway.

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  • Kristin Darken wrote: Tagging everything is NOT a planned project, let alone an active project. If something doesn't have tags, it doesn't have tags. There's a damn good chance that if we DO get around to implementing a working tag system that be used from the front end, that it will clear all the existing tags, anyway.


    [sarcasm]Kristin will you and the authors please stop writing so you can set up a tag system that only a few readers will use or care about? Thank you.[/sarcasm]

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  • I've tidied up some tags as I went along... generally when I was doing some research for a story and noticed that a tag only brought up all but one of a series or somesuch... As Kristin said, we're not devoting a specific amount of energy to it, taking away from whatever else we're working on, but we DO try to fix some outstanding things occasionally as our attention is brought to them.

    I DO know that as we add new stories we're trying to make sure the Author and POV characters are tagged and that's all you should generally expect to see on the stories. (and we sometimes miss those but do try to be consistent in doing so)
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  • Let me amend:

    Next time someone spoilers one of my stories' titles and/or new characters because they're trying to peek behind the curtain?

    I will DELETE the story.

    I came very close when someone went poking and mentioned Anomaly and Small Mercies being "Dead links."

    If a story's title/PoV character is to be announced prior to the release of said story, it is the privilege of the author to do so, not the peanut gallery.
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  • JG wrote: Let me amend:

    Next time someone spoilers one of my stories' titles and/or new characters because they're trying to peek behind the curtain?

    I will DELETE the story.

    I came very close when someone went poking and mentioned Anomaly and Small Mercies being "Dead links."

    If a story's title/PoV character is to be announced prior to the release of said story, it is the privilege of the author to do so, not the peanut gallery.


    ... Sorry... ... I'm not sure if I found it by seeing it in the tag field, or by trying random tag numbers, for some reason... Because some tags appear and 'cause they have no stories ... Okay, pretty sure I found Anomaly just by looking the tag field...

    I click on them 'cause they're interesting, like... ... Well, I literally just saw one, right now, that's got slashes in it... And "lex blackstone", who I'll say, 'cause we know he's a character...

    V - Well, I was gonna ask about PM-ing you guys about it, but tags aren't high priority? ... gonna sleep, I know which one it is, so PM me if you need to know to fix it or something... *night.
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  • If you find one, keep it to yourself, please.

    Someone posting that they found it on the forums, or using it in a foodie bookie's bet before it has been announced (you know who you are...) isn't cool.

    If it's a title you've never seen, or a PoV character you've never heard of and no links to said tags/title can be found?

    That means it's probably not meant for public discourse yet.
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  • *nods*

    JG's summed it up pretty well.

    And I will point out again that I KNOW that the way things are set up, it allows you to sneak peaks at titles of things that aren't released (along with what tags are associated with that file). This is by choice. I specifically set it up so that these titles are visible in this way... because doing so is the only way we can allow the WIKI to reference specific stories from offsite. I can (and will if people continue to feel it necessary to abuse this) flip a toggle switch in the options that will obscure specific article names with randomly generated URLs. This will mask the titles of articles that you are not authorized to see... prevent you from typing those article names into a browser to bypass the menu system... but will also screw over the WIKI folks and significantly reduce the value of an offsite WIKI.

    Snooping around behind the curtains, by the way, is against site policy. Talking about said snooping and the information that you found while doing so in a public forum... is not only against site policy, its just plain foolish. It's like finding an exploit in an MMO and then telling everyone in a public channel how to use it. Just because you don't plan to abuse the knowledge.... doesn't mean you didn't just completely destroy game balance and economy because not all the people who heard what you said had the same 'benevolent' attitude.

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  • MODERATOR: Fixed

    Saks and Violence : Overcoloring Words:

    DO NOT TOUCH!’ She took a dummy made of ballistics gelatin, with synthetic bones clearly showing through the mock flesh, and a few pouches of liquid inside the chest and abdomen, placed it on stand and set it in front of the console and set the hand on the lever. “Okay, you’ve seen this in a couple of thousand cheesy TV shows: The hero is tearing up the nefarious villain’s lair, spots the self-destruct button and says, ‘Aha! I’ll end Dr. Nefarious’ nefarious nephariousness with a single push of a button!’ And a voice starts a countdown, and everyone heads for the exits, with just enough time for that one last-minute rescue and punch-up with the villain before getting out just before the big explosions, roll the credits.


    I assume only "DO NOT TOUCH" is supposed to be in red...
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  • The Devil's Dance (Part 2) is missing a header-thing. Like this thing:

    The Devil’s Dance
    (Part One)
    A Whateley Academy Tale
    By Renae
    (And Everyone in the Whateley Writers Crew)

    (Author’s note: Song lyrics credits, and suggested play list at the end of the story. Yes I know, abnormal for me but well J .)


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    Double Post 'cause it's been over a week.

    Is A Pocket Full of Tansy supposed to open with no header, no time-location stamp, and:

    But it wasn't Gene or Angelina that had Tansy down in these filthy tunnels.


    Because it sounds like there should be something before that "But"... Although, I do remember it starting like that. It just seems really weird, now that I think about it...?? Language isn't always straight forward...

    ... And I guess headers are a thing that only started with some of the later uploads. ... *sigh*
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    7 years 4 weeks ago - 7 years 4 weeks ago #118 by E. E. Nalley
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  • No, that's broken. And I don't have the original text on this computer. I will fix it tomorrow

    MODERATOR: Fixed

    I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.
    Thomas Jefferson, to Archibald Stuart, 1791
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  • On looking through things, it might be that nearly canon and fanfic story from somewhere... At least 49 49 to 121 has had their beginnings cut off...

    ... Did we notice this already?? *Checking...*

    List by Author:
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    Morpheus [ Click to expand ]


    Elrod [ Click to expand ]


    Elrod and E.E Nalley [ Click to expand ]


    E.E Nalley [ Click to expand ]


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    Bek D. Corbin [ Click to expand ]


    Sleethr [ Click to expand ]


    ---

    The stories in that set are:

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    7 years 3 weeks ago #120 by E. E. Nalley
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  • I just checked Riddle Of Sappho and Kodiak Conspiracy and they display fine for me. I checked every installment of each. Can you confirm with a screen shot or step by step how you pull up the story to duplicate this Malady?

    I DID fine some odd marker in Pocket Full of Tansy like a page break or something and deleted it, but the full text was in the edit view and restored after I deleted whatever it was, but maybe I did that too quickly...

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  • I'm missing this from Canto II :

    Warning: Spoiler! [ Click to expand ]


    If it's actually there, it's not showing in the page source.

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  • there's a code we use "<hr id="system-readmore" />" that indicates where a preview of a story gets put in on the stories overview pages... it sounds like maybe you're not seeing anything from before that tag.
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  • I've lately had an issue on stories with the "read more" break in it - nothing ABOVE that break is displaying. weirdness

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  • Yes, please don't delete the readmore tags. They are necessary for the blog style layouts (if they aren't there, the ENTIRE story shows in the blog layout instead of just title and a couple lines/paragraphs). However, if there are categories that are not showing the material above the readmore tag, I can fix that globally... its actually an intentional setting. When I originally set things up, I didn't intend to use the blog style layouts, but some people like them so I have added some... but I may not have retroactively fixed the early category lists to account for the tags being in the articles.

    Alternately, authors can put Title/blurb/image in the pre-readmore section... and leave the start of the story for below the line (as is typically done at BCTS). But we have to choose one of the two... do you want the 'stuff above' visible or not?

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  • I would vote yes, the stuff above is important! If you need a blurb jacket for that I'll be happy to provide one, but glitching the story is not preferable.

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  • ^^ OH! ... You mean duplicating things! So you repeat the blurb after the readmore tag, so you get a readmore section, and the actual text!

    ... I think is what you mean? It sounds like it's the only solution that works...
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  • Ah, this probably me then.

    I've been slowly going through and adding the "read more" tags to the older stories.

    Didn't realise this would be a problem for them.
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  • Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Ah, this probably me then.

    I've been slowly going through and adding the "read more" tags to the older stories.

    Didn't realize this would be a problem for them.


    More a combination of things... going by what Kristin said...

    But, we know what's wrong and it sounds like Kristin can fix things globally... unless there's something else that that screws-up.
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  • Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Ah, this probably me then.

    I've been slowly going through and adding the "read more" tags to the older stories.

    Didn't realise this would be a problem for them.


    It isn't... if you access those stories via the blurb style list. If you access them from the master category lists, then its possible that the settings I originally used may start the 'visible' story section at the readmore tag. The data isn't lost, it just isn't being show if you get there via a category table vs a blog post. And that's purely a matter of the original set up being purely table based acess... now that we're using the blog style, I need to tweak some settings. It'll be fine... I just need to find all the categories that have the settings that way and toggle a button from 'hide' to 'show.'

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  • I got to them by clicking Stories, Original Time Line the finding them in the resultant list

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  • I have 'maybe' fixed this. Will check back in on it as I have time later. Worst case scenario, we just put the leading intro twice. It'll look a little glitchy in places where it shows both the before and after, but at least it will be there visibly.

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  • You will have to go to it via one of the lists, not a direct link Malady. You're 'forcing' a story to load outside of the context of it being a story. There's no code telling it how to handle the readmore tag that way. You'll notice it also doesn't show you a submenu in the left hand sidebar when you load it that way.

    THIS btw, is exactly the sort of thing we keep saying not to do. a CMS based site loads things using code templates. Not pre-defined html. when you tell it to just load "X" or "Y"... it may try to do so... and actually get you something approaching what is intended. But it ISN'T how the site is intended or designed to be used. And it isn't our responsibility to make it work right when you are doing things this way.

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  • Kristin Darken wrote: You will have to go to it via one of the lists, not a direct link Malady. You're 'forcing' a story to load outside of the context of it being a story. There's no code telling it how to handle the readmore tag that way. You'll notice it also doesn't show you a submenu in the left hand sidebar when you load it that way.

    THIS btw, is exactly the sort of thing we keep saying not to do. a CMS based site loads things using code templates. Not pre-defined html. when you tell it to just load "X" or "Y"... it may try to do so... and actually get you something approaching what is intended. But it ISN'T how the site is intended or designed to be used. And it isn't our responsibility to make it work right when you are doing things this way.


    OH! Okay... So... it seems I should have "index.php/stories/" instead of just "index.php/"... And I totally missed that tags are at the bottom of stories. I expected them at the top. Ah well! ... Things work, so all is good!
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  • Well, co-opting into the typo report thread...

    There are a lot of uncapitalizations... But, hey, spellcheckers aren't programmed for Whateley.

    There's no misspellings, so that's nice!

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  • In the cafe duel scene in Killing Time, I'm noticing that the opening quote for most of the lines of dialog are stripped out.

    The first line I'm noting is 'No,”...', with the last being 'I make a note of all the lives I've taken...'. I mentally took note of a couple other issues (homophones I believe) towards the start of the story, but I'm having problems finding them at the moment.

    "rugged, tare resistant", should be tear.

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  • Ya, that is probably my fault... I've been spoiled by Dan or Phoenix-Spiritus cleaning all the excess html from stories for a while now and didn't allot the time to do it carefully on Friday when I discovered that it hadn't been done for Killing Time yet. I try to use find/replace on sequences of styling and span combinations from paragraph to paragraph and replace them with just end para/start para with a line feed between. Sometimes, I'll catch one that will have a quote mark or an italics in the midst of a pile of style data and not see it... and before you know it, 8-200 leading quote marks are gone.

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  • Well, that explains how I keep accidentally doing that too.
    6 years 11 months ago #139 by DanZilla
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  • Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Well, that explains how I keep accidentally doing that too.


    heh... that or adding an extra > or <
    6 years 11 months ago #140 by Malady
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  • whateleyacademy.net/index.php/original-t...hn-s-basement-part-2

    Carmody swallowed heavily. “What are you saying?”


    Presumably, that's not supposed to be bolded?

    Also, perhaps add a paragraph space before "January 6th:" to separate it from the newspapery parts?
    6 years 11 months ago #141 by Kristin Darken
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  • lol... lets see... we can work on big picture feature improvements like... viable searching and tags. or we can play whackamole with 10k typos that have snuck into the stories over the years. *raises an eyebrow*

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    6 years 11 months ago #142 by Malady
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  • Kristin Darken wrote: lol... lets see... we can work on big picture feature improvements like... viable searching and tags. or we can play whackamole with 10k typos that have snuck into the stories over the years. *raises an eyebrow*


    :oops: ... True. I totally fail at reading the air. *sigh*
    6 years 11 months ago #143 by Kristin Darken
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  • That's been our outlook all along though, really. We've always taken the stance that once its out there its out there. We don't want to retcon... but there's also not a lot to gain to continue to push for editorial perfection. Could we? I suppose... but the time that it would take to find three or four typos and fix up the way a given character says a certain line? It's often far more effectively put into working on the next project.

    If we had some reader/reviewers whose part in the process was doing that sort of thing and NOT writing or web development or something else... then we probably would do a typos/homophone/format tweaks list. And any time they didn't have a piece in the pipeline to work through, they'd be asked to whittle down the tweaks list.

    So its not completely wasted effort. Just... ahead of its time.

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    6 years 11 months ago #144 by Phoenix Spiritus
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  • Malady, if you want to make a list of stories and typos that's fine, with the revamped tagging system we're going to have to go through all the stories and set new tags and readmore markers and all the rest anyway.

    If you have a list of typos to correct, we could do that too while we're editing those stories.
    6 years 11 months ago - 6 years 11 months ago #145 by Malady
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  • Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Malady, [...] If you have a list of typos to correct, we could do that too while we're editing those stories.


    Okay... Here's my list of typos .

    It's not comprehensive though. Some are super minor and could just be writer's style... Father John 2's section is still growing...

    Uhh... How do you access the stories in the new tags? ... Oh, you need to click the Read More? Unless I'm missing something?

    Also the only story in the Kim Possible tag doesn't have a read more note, but as it was one of the first stories tagged, I guess that was just a test?
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  • The only stories tagged at the moment are ones set for release in the future, or ones Kristin has been testing things with :D
    6 years 11 months ago #147 by Malady
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  • Okay... That "linebreak shadow" thing isn't just the one story... I'm seeing it in Fey 1 as well... Look above "Nick dreamed while he slept."...
    6 years 11 months ago #148 by Phoenix Spiritus
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  • OK, E. E.'s complaining of "linebreak shadow" too.

    What are you guys seeing? Because I'm seeing an image of a line break with a shadow, are you seeing words or something instead?
    6 years 11 months ago #149 by OtherEric
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  • We're seeing the text "linebreak shadow" rather than an image.
    6 years 11 months ago #150 by Phoenix Spiritus
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  • OK, that's a Kristin thing then.
    6 years 11 months ago #151 by DanZilla
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  • yep... looks like something broke in the image file or pathing.. I'm seeing the broken image icon next to linebreak shadow as well.
    6 years 11 months ago #152 by Valentine
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  • Phoenix Spiritus wrote: OK, E. E.'s complaining of "linebreak shadow" too.

    What are you guys seeing? Because I'm seeing an image of a line break with a shadow, are you seeing words or something instead?


    It's the text that is printed if the image fails.

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    6 years 11 months ago - 6 years 11 months ago #153 by Kristin Darken
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  • Part of the problem is that I've created new images for the linebreaks. I've uploaded those images. But evidently, versions of the line breaks have ended up in the "includes" folder as well as under /images/breaks .... and so, instead of automatically updating when I updated the original white background versions, they stayed white backgrounds. So I pulled the ones from the include and am replacing them with placeholders that will show a little error flag/dot so we can get them properly connected to the breaks folder... and then if we have to alter the graphics to match style, we only have to change one set of files.

    Doesn't help that any changes to images also has to deal with cached files and such for who knows how long after you change things.

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  • Malady wrote:

    Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Malady, [...] If you have a list of typos to correct, we could do that too while we're editing those stories.


    Okay... Here's my list of typos .


    Any chance of getting the full sentence with the typo, rather then just the single word?

    Single words could be in a story dozens of times, tracking down which of them is the one with the problem could take forever, whereas with a sentence we can usually do find and get straight to the problem.
    6 years 11 months ago - 6 years 11 months ago #155 by Malady
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  • If you had an old copy, I've uploaded a new one... OH. I see.

    Single words are capitalization errors... Likely they aren't capitalized that often, but okay. More information, yes.
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  • Yeah Malady, it's just a plea for you to copy and paste at least part of the sentence into the lists so that it's easier to find and fix them.

    Sorry.
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  • Nah. Totally understandable! 'When I forget to explain things, then I have to explain them.' Makes sense!

    So how far have you gotten? ... Meh, I'll just run through the stories and check later...
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  • Haven't even started yet, trying to finish a couple of stories and waiting for Kristin to finish all the background work she's doing.
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  • Misplaced quote near the end of S&S2

    'Combat Final, Nikki admitted,” as Jericho snickered.', should be 'Combat Final," Nikki admitted, as Jericho snickered.'

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  • So, is the Imp Origin story supposed to be "First Imp-ression", or "First Imp-ressions"? 'Cause in the story lists, it's listed as the former, while it says "First Imp-ressions" in the story page.
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  • Here's a simple one:

    Siblings and Savages, parts 1 - 3, each time Kayda shows up, she's called "Petuja" instead of "Pejuta" (or "Petula" , which would be wrong, but amusing). Valentine mentioned it about 6 weeks ago, and Google's indexed all three instances already.

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  • Guys/Gals, little spelling and typo errors like this are way, way beyond the scope of what I've got time to handle ... or Dan or Phoenix too. Ultimately, the individual authors are responsible for the level of accuracy of the text of their stories... and its up to them whether they want to keep spending time cleaning those things up or moving on to new stories. And I doubt most of them are keeping up to date on this thread. As always, the 'best' way to handle such things is to send a PM to the author and say something along the lines of "I have a list of typos and spelling errors in Story 'X and Y in the Z' ... would you like me to send them to you?" And then, they have the option of saying no... or saying yes and then not following up on it... or saying yes and actually fixing some or all of them.

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