Question Stuck on a Wasp knock off character

I was reading some Twisting the Hellmouth fan fic which had Xander, Faith and Cordy get turned into Littles , which made me go "Huh! that would be a neat spin on size warper."

Thing I'm stuck on is do i want to have the character only do Little and Human, or do i wanna give them a Giant form, and is the giant form some other TV species knock off?

Thoughts?

how about the "Big" form is the human-sized one... and they have action-doll as normal and 1-inch tall as small... only normal size is effortless and they have to use effort to maintain big or little sizes.

If Giant-sized giant form you could always have them turn into something "camouflaged" like a statue-like or tree-like appearance.

If you go with a Giant form, please keep one thing in mind that most comic book writers tend to forget- moving around when you're a giant is a LOT harder than it looks. You're throwing around a lot more mass, and losing your balance can really mess with you.

I am not sure whether or not i understand your question correctly and thus my answers might be a bit off.

So you are thinking about a mutant with the ability to alter his form (with a limited amount of form : at least a mini one and a human one) rather than directly altering his size, and you are wondering whether or not you should add a giant form into the mix (this form would be based on another giant species represented in pop culture/TV ?).

I can think about characters with the ability to both shrink and grow (Hank pym) but i don't have specific giant specie in TV show.

I am throwing darts here in case it could be usefull and you don't specificaly want it to be related to a TV specie :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_people_(mythology)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_(mythology)

My take on this subject would be an avatar with the spirit of one of those little people tribe (maybe one from the native american one), with a hallow too small, altering his base form. (it would be a low lever avatar, so the spirit is a little too big and so he shrinks to better fit it.) The twist would be that he is also a wraper or a shifter and can with effort claim back his human size (but putting him at odd with his spirit).

The code name Gulliver pop in my mind even if it's not directly related to the previous idea.

In a way, whether or not you "should" add a giant giant form depend on the tone and the message of the story. If you want to write about an underdog overcoming the odds, being able to take the form of a 15 foots giant might undermine your efforts ...

I've long thought that Whateley was lacking because they did not have a doll sized character. While in recent years we have not seen them in comics much, that power set has a long history going right back to the golden age of comics.

I think it would be a lot more fun to do a character who was stuck at six inches than one where it was merely an option.

There roommate would consider having them a major score. A dresser could be converted to a housing unit for them, and leave the rest of the room for her or him.

Getting around to classes might be a problem, but a drone of some sort would be much easier for someone that size than a normal sized student who was handicapped.

If they were a devisor I can see them building themselves a full sized body suit, in several varieties. From totally human, to Transformer/Gundam.

Kind of liking the Stuck small, Giant form is human sized idea, along with the Stuart Little/Ralph S Mouse style model car or plane tricked out to behave like the real thing to get around idea.

Make him a devisor or have a devisor friend and the model car could be made to hover up things like stairs and such, along with a forcefield in case someone accidently steps or falls on him while in it. Though that does take away some of the danger of being that size most of the time, but only while in the model vehicle.

Dreamer wrote: Make him a devisor or have a devisor friend and the model car could be made to hover up things like stairs and such, along with a forcefield in case someone accidently steps or falls on him while in it. Though that does take away some of the danger of being that size most of the time, but only while in the model vehicle.

Want to really mess with them. Make use of that suggestion that they are an avatar shifted by their spirit, and have them not only small, but something incredibly cute. A cat sized cat girl for instance.

Just imagining this doll-sized character bitching and moaning about the shoddy quality of Barbie clothing. The plastic boots alone would be a major reason to squawk

Bek D Corbin wrote: Just imagining this doll-sized character bitching and moaning about the shoddy quality of Barbie clothing. The plastic boots alone would be a major reason to squawk

Oooohhhh yeeesssss. Actually, got one character who might use that kind of point of view.

"Barbie clothes? Really? You mean the ones in the toys aisle? The one where all the shoes are solid plastic high heels? Where the fabric is so thin, you'd catch a cold in summer? Stiff as cardboard? I mean, it's built for a doll, not for someone to actually wear them. Yeah, sure, they don't build buttons, or zippers that size, but come on... You might as well tie garrote wire around my waist, and pull at this point, I wouldn't fit otherwise. Sheesh. Barbie."

I'm surprised someone hasn't already mentioned a certain absolutely wacko tiny fairy as such a type of character...

elrodw wrote: I'm surprised someone hasn't already mentioned a certain absolutely wacko tiny fairy as such a type of character...

are you talking about Jinn's sometime impersonation? If so she doesn't really count as she's just role-playing.

I can see lots of fun in the portrayal of a tiny character having to deal with the real sized world.

Oh yeah. There are a lot of interesting things that can happen in a tiny person situation. Even more so on a daily basis. A lot of things are standardized to our size.

I recently had one character who got turned into a fairy in another story. I had to consider a lot of things. Yes, wings, and flight helps, but then you have to consider things like clothes, food and little conveniences we take for granted. Just imagine trying to use a public bathroom. Heck, even more basic: try opening a door with a handle you have to turn.

"I can push the door, or twist the handle, if I can get some leverage. I can't do both at the same time! Wrap your head around that one. And you don't want to know how many kids tried to put me in a jar..."

peter wrote:

elrodw wrote: I'm surprised someone hasn't already mentioned a certain absolutely wacko tiny fairy as such a type of character...

are you talking about Jinn's sometime impersonation? If so she doesn't really count as she's just role-playing.

I can see lots of fun in the portrayal of a tiny character having to deal with the real sized world.

He's talking about the fanfic character Tink. Who takes all the hyperactivity of a full sized person and compresses it down into at 6 inch body.

Polk Kitsune wrote: "I can push the door, or twist the handle, if I can get some leverage. I can't do both at the same time! Wrap your head around that one. And you don't want to know how many kids tried to put me in a jar..."

Lever-type door handles might be manageable by a fairy-type character (there are cats who learn to open such doors), but round doorknobs would probably be pretty hard. And then there are thumb latches like in my house...

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

peter wrote:

elrodw wrote: I'm surprised someone hasn't already mentioned a certain absolutely wacko tiny fairy as such a type of character...

are you talking about Jinn's sometime impersonation? If so she doesn't really count as she's just role-playing.

I can see lots of fun in the portrayal of a tiny character having to deal with the real sized world.

He's talking about the fanfic character Tink. Who takes all the hyperactivity of a full sized person and compresses it down into at 6 inch body.

You mean all the hyperactivity of an ADHD on a sugar rush, all the attitude of a stage mother, and all the wackiness of Jade, but in a six inch high winged fairy with the presence of a tornadoes.

Which reminds me, is Domovyie OK? I haven't seen any post from him in a while.

Sir Lee wrote:

Polk Kitsune wrote: "I can push the door, or twist the handle, if I can get some leverage. I can't do both at the same time! Wrap your head around that one. And you don't want to know how many kids tried to put me in a jar..."

Lever-type door handles might be manageable by a fairy-type character (there are cats who learn to open such doors), but round doorknobs would probably be pretty hard. And then there are thumb latches like in my house...

The problem is more inertia then it is force. Inertia as it allows you to apply that force. Instead of thinking of a cat, think of a mouse. A mouse is tiny, and it's weight is tiny. Even if it jumps up and down on a lever door handle, it usually doesn't have enough weight to overcome the turning inertia in the door handle.

An other problem is friction, or rather lack of it. A small hand has a tiny amount of surface area. So think about a normal sized hand turning a door handle. There is all the area where the skin of the hand touches the surface of the door handle in which friction can be built up so that when the hands is turned, the force turning the hand can travel through the friction of the skin and into the doorhandle surface, to overcome the inertia in the doorhandle and allow the doorhandle to turn.

Now imagine our mouse again, both tiny paws on the door, and the two paws push on the doorhandle. It doesn't matter how much force they can exert, there is not enough friction in the tiny surface area of the paw to transfer the necessary force through the paws into the door handle to turn it, instead, the two paws would just slide over the surface of the doorhandle.

Sir Lee wrote:

Polk Kitsune wrote: "I can push the door, or twist the handle, if I can get some leverage. I can't do both at the same time! Wrap your head around that one. And you don't want to know how many kids tried to put me in a jar..."

Lever-type door handles might be manageable by a fairy-type character (there are cats who learn to open such doors), but round doorknobs would probably be pretty hard. And then there are thumb latches like in my house...

"That depends greatly on the strength of the spring there. If the spring involved is too strong, there's no way I'm lowering it. Do remember that I'm light enough to fly under my own wings. Some of them, I could sit on the handle, and it still wouldn't budge.

"If I do sit on them to lower it, good, that's one thing. It also means I have to get off said lever to push against the door frame to get it to open, which means taking weight off the lever, which defeats the purpose of opening the door.

"And if you think flight is the answer, then Phoenix's point about inertia has a double impact here. I don't have anywhere the weight of the door, and if I'm not touching the ground, I'm virtually weightless. Even a door without a handle would foil me if the spring is strong enough.

"As for thumb latches, some I can agree... 50% of the time. If I have to push the door, fine. It's good. What happens if I have to push the button, and pull the door at the same time? That's if I don't have the same issue with the level version.

"My best luck is if the door has a switch to open automatically, with a manual button. If I can put enough body force behind it, it'll open for me.

"That, or get someone else to open it. Maybe I should invest in a tiny grappling hook."

No, my point about thumb latches was that they would be pretty much impossible for a fairy to pull open, since there's no way she could apply pressure down to the thumb lever AND pull on the handle at the same time. Even if she's disproportionately strong, it requires applying force in two separate places at once.

Lever latches might -- notice the conditional here -- be manageable if the fairy is able to apply enough downforce and then, after the lever is down, change angle so she could have an horizontal component. That's highly dependent on the amount of force the fairy is able to apply. It does not require a YUGE amount of force (as I said, some cats manage it), but it may well be above the capabilities of a fairy -- depending basically how you define such fairy's capabilities.

Ball-type doorknobs are likely to be impossible, unless you give the fairy some really disproportional muscle strength (that would rate as "superstrength" at her scale) and lift force, so she could grip the knob and use lift to turn it. Note that knob latches "feel" heavier to the human-sized user too, due to the lesser mechanical advantage compared to the lever-type ones.

Now, there are some possible ways to make it less unlikely, if you need this in a story.
First is to do away with the need for horizontal push -- if there's some breeze flowing the right way, just unlatching could be enough.
A bit harder, but still easier than pulling, would be to *push* open the door.

And, of course, if you don't want to bother with the issue, you can always give the fairy some sort of PK power. Jack L. Chalker did that in the "Dancing Gods" books.

Ah. Woops. Took that the wrong way. My bad. ^^;

"I thought I could carry around a chainsaw, and just carve myself a way out. Or maybe get an ATV with a winch. Anything I carry on myself would make flight a little impossible."

Pix here is already a little special in her own way, maybe a little OP already... But then again, I have to compensate for size. She's got unique problems, and solutions.

"Maybe I should just keep it simple: hitch a ride on the local humans around. Hey! Listen! Can you open up for me?" She sighed. "This is why they made a 'knock' spell, right?"

Sir Lee wrote:
Ball-type doorknobs are likely to be impossible, unless you give the fairy some really disproportional muscle strength (that would rate as "superstrength" at her scale) and lift force, so she could grip the knob and use lift to turn it. Note that knob latches "feel" heavier to the human-sized user too, due to the lesser mechanical advantage compared to the lever-type ones.

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There is the fact that the human body is designed to operate with a great deal of mass. The way the tendons are strung and the bulk of the muscles are designed to move a great deal of weight, the body itself.

Shrink a human down to six inches and they would weigh under a pound, but still have the mechanical advantage they evolved to compensate for a much larger body.

Proportionally they would be far stronger than a normal sized human. lifting a dozen times their own weight would be a snap.

I've read that if you shrank a human down to insect size they'd be able to rip apart supposedly super strong ants that were the same size. For the same reason said ant would be crushed by it's own body if it were to be grown to human size.

And they could fall from any height and never reach a terminal velocity that would cause them any harm. They'd be able to withstand far higher G-forces.

Someone with gravity warping power could kill someone by increasing their personal gravity to twenty times normal. A tiny human would barely notice the difference.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

peter wrote:

elrodw wrote: I'm surprised someone hasn't already mentioned a certain absolutely wacko tiny fairy as such a type of character...

are you talking about Jinn's sometime impersonation? If so she doesn't really count as she's just role-playing.

I can see lots of fun in the portrayal of a tiny character having to deal with the real sized world.

He's talking about the fanfic character Tink. Who takes all the hyperactivity of a full sized person and compresses it down into at 6 inch body.

You mean all the hyperactivity of an ADHD on a sugar rush, all the attitude of a stage mother, and all the wackiness of Jade, but in a six inch high winged fairy with the presence of a tornadoes.

Which reminds me, is Domovyie OK? I haven't seen any post from him in a while.

I'm alive, just been super busy with some vacation, extra work, and finally getting the finishing touches on A Good Man.

There is the fact that the human body is designed to operate with a great deal of mass. The way the tendons are strung and the bulk of the muscles are designed to move a great deal of weight, the body itself.

Shrink a human down to six inches and they would weigh under a pound, but still have the mechanical advantage they evolved to compensate for a much larger body.

Proportionally they would be far stronger than a normal sized human. lifting a dozen times their own weight would be a snap.

I've read that if you shrank a human down to insect size they'd be able to rip apart supposedly super strong ants that were the same size. For the same reason said ant would be crushed by it's own body if it were to be grown to human size.



And they could fall from any height and never reach a terminal velocity that would cause them any harm. They'd be able to withstand far higher G-forces.

Someone with gravity warping power could kill someone by increasing their personal gravity to twenty times normal. A tiny human would barely notice the difference.

Yep. From reading up on things for my own doll size character, this is pretty much correct. The main problem is mass and leverage. Without the mass, moving things around is awkward. Although their punches and kicks could really hurt because their tiny but powerful muscles are all focused on a spot about the size of a pin. If they know where the pressure points are, watch out.
The leverage is the other problem. Being able to move something is all well and good, but if when you lift it up it falls backwards, or breaks because a twenty pound box is being held in one or two places the size of a thumbtack, it's pretty much useless.
With Tink, I got around that problem by giving her a PK field that stretches around an object she's holding for up to three feet, so leverage and mass are her bitch. But she still has a tiny door put into her Whateley door for convenience.

With clothes, most clothes you could buy would be horrible to wear, too fragile, crinkly and ill fitting. So the tiny person has to make up their own clothes (tanned mouse fur could work nicely), or go with specialty type clothes that you find on top quality anime dolls.

Another thing with the body and condensed muscles, is that being stepped on by a regular human will hurt, but as long as they're pretty flat, they'll survive. The dense muscles and skeleton can handle a lot. Standing upright and getting stepped on would probably kill them because of a snapped neck unless the walker stopped before putting their weight on them, but almost any other position would be survivable. They just really wouldn't like it.

Of course, that's all assuming they just get scaled down and then freeze. The thing about being disproportionately strong is that the body tends to atrophy when it isn't being utilized, and that goes for both muscles and bone density. A small character without a BIT to lock things in might end up facing a lot of the problems that long-term astronauts face. They'd probably remain disproportionately strong no matter what, but the extent of the disproportion would probably shrink over time unless they exercised a lot to trick their body into keeping it.

peter wrote: There roommate would consider having them a major score. A dresser could be converted to a housing unit for them, and leave the rest of the room for her or him.

If the small roommate was willing to do that, sure. But it could also be a source of conflict if the small one does not agree to that plan and prefers to keep a large portion of their half for themselves -- and there's probably a lot of useful things they could do with the space, since a lot of the facilities that Whateley provides for other students just wouldn't work for one who is that sized, so they may need to set up their own miniaturized versions. A track where they can run without worrying about being crushed by oblivious students or eaten by a bird, for example, or a swimming pool where they don't have to deal with humongous waves, carnivorous filtration systems, etc. They may also have to store a good amount of human-scale objects despite being small -- group projects, robotic mobility suits, borrowed textbooks, gifts, etc.

But yeah, a cooperative tiny person could be a pretty great roommate. Ideally they'd be paired up with somebody who is disproportionately large, so that the large person could have most of the room and not be cramped.

If you're worried too much about physics and how they breathe in space and such, I suggest you listen to the Mystery Science Fiction Theatre 3000 theme song again.

When you mentioned a Wasp knock-off, my first thought was Bumblebee from the DC Universe.

There was also Micro-Lad from The Legion of SuperHeroes whose normal size was a giant, but could shrink to human size. His city had been struck by a ray gun from Bizzaro Brainiac.


tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Sizeshifter

Though yes, I do agree that in the end, it's all for fun in the end, you can explain just about everything, but it is sometimes just as fun to figure out these things, and discuss. It can lead to interesting story ideas, and plots we might otherwise not think about.

Problems though, start if you begin a flame war over it.

In that case, I believe I'm quoting someone when I say: "The ship runs at the speed of the plot. If the story requires it to arrive late at the destination, it's speed will match that."


"On the bright side, for clothes, if you find a professional, you can ask them for a discount on materials. Clothes for us would use very little, I bet they could use some of the scrap pieces they have lying around. And there's plenty of people in costume classes willing to help there.

"And then you wonder why pixies are usually portrayed as going around naked. Makes me shudder just thinking about it.

"A bigger roommate might sound nice, until you realize it has twice the odds of squishing you by accident. As for having facilities build for your needs, you also have to consider that the school is meant to prepare you for the real world, so you may still have to face said regular-sized pool. I just feel lucky I was able to switch over to survival classes. Sensei Ito didn't argue too much to keep me in BMA."

Cloth for normal clothing would likely be way too thick and rough for someone that small. That's why doll clothing is so stiff, it's made of normal weave.

Silk might work, padded silk especially. I bet you anything that there are bio-devisors who have perfected spider silk as a cloth. A thin weave of that might work pretty good.

Mouse skin, but she'd likely have to tan it herself. -_-;;

I think someone that small would be very vulnerable to the cold, they would lose body heat very quickly, and high heat might be an issue as well.

Regarding custom facilities, I didn't mean to imply the school would build them. Not everybody is some helpless sap who has to just use what the world provides. I know if I were fairy-sized, I'd have spent less time learning to program and more time learning the basics of carpentry, metalworking, electronics, and tailoring. Certain aspects of cooking/food-engineering as well. One of my biggest priorities would be building a noodle-maker of some sort.

One of the neat things about being that small is that a lot of things would be extremely cheap. A few bucks buys you a container of ice cream the size of a house, or a decade's worth of shampoo, or electric motors and batteries as big as you are, or enough helium to lift you, or...

You could buy an RC plane for a fraction of the cost of a used car. It would take a little adjustment to replace the radio with a cockpit and a fly-by-wire system, but it wouldn't be terribly hard. And as long as the plane has a max speed below 55 knots and only one seat, it would almost certainly qualify as an ultralight and therefor not require any certifications, permits, or other paperwork to fly it. Off-campus, anyway; Whateley would probably still require a pilot's license, and getting one is not a bad idea. Especially in case you want to someday have a faster plane, or maybe one with a second seat for your fairy significant other.

The problem with off-the-shelf model planes is... range. They simply aren't designed to fly more than, oh, half an hour without refueling. Not to mention that they are incredibly noisy. To stay less than 20cm from a RC model engine for an entire flight would be akin to torture.

Are you Familiar with Terry Pratchett's tiny people. He actually wrote a whole series, The Carpet People.

But I was talking about his Diskworld small people. Like the Pictsies? Or their other name, Nat Mac Feegle, The Wee Free Men

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wee_Free_Men

Side Note: The Jim Henson group has the movie rights and are apparently in the process of making a movie based on the book.

And then their is Wee Mad Arthur, Smallest Member of the Anke Morpok City guard, who does aerial surveillance from the back of a bird.

It's amazing how cooperative even the most predatory of birds can become if you get a good grip on his goolies.

He can live for a month on a loaf of bread, and then use the dried out crust as a house.

wiki.lspace.org/mediawiki/Wee_Mad_Arthur

there is a unofficial whateley fan fiction story about an 18 year old girl mutating into a trans dimensional fairy called bigclosetr.us/topshelf/book/18358/hexxatious-deja-vu that might give some good ideas on this subject

There is one other matter that was brought up concerning Mass. If this were to be scientifically provided, what happened to the mass of the individual itself. If you were shrunk down you have think of the molecules that is in your body. They have become compacted to a smaller size. I think of this in relationship to the movie 'The Incredible Shrinking Man' from the 50's.

Of course they didn't concern themselves with some things but if the person were to shrink the outlying mass has to be either displaced somehow or the person would be still be the same weight as their original size.

The same would apply if that person was a giant. They would still be the same mass even if they increased and thus would most likely injure themselves due to being very light.

Just a thought.

That's a valid point. Still, this problem with size-changers has been addressed in the past by using the quasi-magical "warping" power; Briefly, what a size-warper does is not so much to change size, but rather to create a sort of a "lens" effect between themselves and the rest of the world.

Ib12us wrote: There is one other matter that was brought up concerning Mass. If this were to be scientifically provided, what happened to the mass of the individual itself. If you were shrunk down you have think of the molecules that is in your body. They have become compacted to a smaller size. I think of this in relationship to the movie 'The Incredible Shrinking Man' from the 50's.

Of course they didn't concern themselves with some things but if the person were to shrink the outlying mass has to be either displaced somehow or the person would be still be the same weight as their original size.

The same would apply if that person was a giant. They would still be the same mass even if they increased and thus would most likely injure themselves due to being very light.

Just a thought.

Depends on whether the character is bouncing back and forth between big and small, or is forever small.

If it's the always going to be small situation, then it could be written that their body cannibalized itself in order to provide the energy for the change. Maybe their original body turned into a chrysalis and provided a vessel for their new self to grow.

The description of Tink's manifesting is a good example,

Ib12us wrote: There is one other matter that was brought up concerning Mass. If this were to be scientifically provided, what happened to the mass of the individual itself. If you were shrunk down you have think of the molecules that is in your body. They have become compacted to a smaller size. I think of this in relationship to the movie 'The Incredible Shrinking Man' from the 50's.

Of course they didn't concern themselves with some things but if the person were to shrink the outlying mass has to be either displaced somehow or the person would be still be the same weight as their original size.

The same would apply if that person was a giant. They would still be the same mass even if they increased and thus would most likely injure themselves due to being very light.

Just a thought.

Here is a possibility.

So we're looking at a gazateer or most probably a devisor who makes a suit that can do the action. This would be one method of course.

I've been meaning to ask this for a bit. Does anyone have a link to the Tink stories?

Look in the archive I link in my Sig, and search for Domoviye?

Oh, wait. They were posted:

whateleyacademy.net/index.php/forum/fabr...mmer-of-fun-complete
whateleyacademy.net/index.php/forum/fabr...-education-completed
whateleyacademy.net/index.php/forum/fabr...or-essence-completed
whateleyacademy.net/index.php/forum/fabr...-tink-s-story-corner

Malady wrote: Look in the archive I link in my Sig, and search for Domoviye?

Oh, wait. They were posted:

whateleyacademy.net/index.php/forum/fabr...mmer-of-fun-complete
whateleyacademy.net/index.php/forum/fabr...-education-completed
whateleyacademy.net/index.php/forum/fabr...or-essence-completed
whateleyacademy.net/index.php/forum/fabr...-tink-s-story-corner

Thank you very muchly.

I just started reading the Tink story and was at the point where she was stashing food when a thought popped in my head from a story I read in one of the Callahan Cross-time saloon books.

Using logic they deduced that Pink Elephants were real, and the reason they were only seen by drunks was because high proof liquor was the only thing with enough concentrated energy to fuel something that needs as much as a tiny flying pink elephant.

Combine that with some species of Shrew that will starve to death in a day if they don't eat, and who eat half their body weight a day in protein and I'm thinking Tink likely has to put away one hell of a lot of calories for her size. But because her stomach is not that big, she pretty much has to graze constantly.

Now I'll likely read a few more pages and find out the author already covered this. ^_^

No, Tink has a wonder stomach, though I did use the same logic in a story I'm writing that also has a pixie.

peter wrote: I just started reading the Tink story and was at the point where she was stashing food when a thought popped in my head from a story I read in one of the Callahan Cross-time saloon books.

Using logic they deduced that Pink Elephants were real, and the reason they were only seen by drunks was because high proof liquor was the only thing with enough concentrated energy to fuel something that needs as much as a tiny flying pink elephant.

Combine that with some species of Shrew that will starve to death in a day if they don't eat, and who eat half their body weight a day in protein and I'm thinking Tink likely has to put away one hell of a lot of calories for her size. But because her stomach is not that big, she pretty much has to graze constantly.

Now I'll likely read a few more pages and find out the author already covered this. ^_^

I didn't deal with it that quickly, but eventually she's told her stomach is the equivalent of a blast furnace, and being an energizer with a PK field she eats severall times her own body weight in one sitting.
It seemed funny and logical at the time.

Any little person pulling off a human like schedule is going to need a massive amount of calories. Most small animals spend much of their time sleeping and testing to conserve energy for moments of intense activity. Having a full day then a long rest period will require either a few huge meals to build up the necessary energy or near constant grazing. And missing meals could be deadly unless they're resting for most of the time.

That just gave me a sadistic idea.

Domoviye wrote:

peter wrote: I just started reading the Tink story and was at the point where she was stashing food when a thought popped in my head from a story I read in one of the Callahan Cross-time saloon books.

Using logic they deduced that Pink Elephants were real, and the reason they were only seen by drunks was because high proof liquor was the only thing with enough concentrated energy to fuel something that needs as much as a tiny flying pink elephant.

Combine that with some species of Shrew that will starve to death in a day if they don't eat, and who eat half their body weight a day in protein and I'm thinking Tink likely has to put away one hell of a lot of calories for her size. But because her stomach is not that big, she pretty much has to graze constantly.

Now I'll likely read a few more pages and find out the author already covered this. ^_^

I didn't deal with it that quickly, but eventually she's told her stomach is the equivalent of a blast furnace, and being an energizer with a PK field she eats severall times her own body weight in one sitting.
It seemed funny and logical at the time.

Any little person pulling off a human like schedule is going to need a massive amount of calories. Most small animals spend much of their time sleeping and testing to conserve energy for moments of intense activity. Having a full day then a long rest period will require either a few huge meals to build up the necessary energy or near constant grazing. And missing meals could be deadly unless they're resting for most of the time.

That just gave me a sadistic idea.

Great. Now he's going to create "The Zombie consortium in search for the next eating victim."

A story of a sortie of Zombies who can only rest when their bellies are full, except they have no bellies and are on the constant prowl for their next given meal.

Ib12us wrote:

Domoviye wrote:

peter wrote: I just started reading the Tink story and was at the point where she was stashing food when a thought popped in my head from a story I read in one of the Callahan Cross-time saloon books.

Using logic they deduced that Pink Elephants were real, and the reason they were only seen by drunks was because high proof liquor was the only thing with enough concentrated energy to fuel something that needs as much as a tiny flying pink elephant.

Combine that with some species of Shrew that will starve to death in a day if they don't eat, and who eat half their body weight a day in protein and I'm thinking Tink likely has to put away one hell of a lot of calories for her size. But because her stomach is not that big, she pretty much has to graze constantly.

Now I'll likely read a few more pages and find out the author already covered this. ^_^

I didn't deal with it that quickly, but eventually she's told her stomach is the equivalent of a blast furnace, and being an energizer with a PK field she eats severall times her own body weight in one sitting.
It seemed funny and logical at the time.

Any little person pulling off a human like schedule is going to need a massive amount of calories. Most small animals spend much of their time sleeping and testing to conserve energy for moments of intense activity. Having a full day then a long rest period will require either a few huge meals to build up the necessary energy or near constant grazing. And missing meals could be deadly unless they're resting for most of the time.

That just gave me a sadistic idea.

Great. Now he's going to create "The Zombie consortium in search for the next eating victim."

A story of a sortie of Zombies who can only rest when their bellies are full, except they have no bellies and are on the constant prowl for their next given meal.

To easy. I was thinking a funny story about starvation.

What?
Why yes. Yes I do love dark humour.

One of the first John Constantine stories in the Hellblazer series, had an obese person that was possessed by a demon of hunger, who starved to death in a restaurant.

I really need to get some Constantine traders. I've heard a lot about it, but never had a chance to read them.

Domoviye wrote: I really need to get some Constantine traders. I've heard a lot about it, but never had a chance to read them.

Same here.

The early versions are very dark.

Some of Allan Moore's best work, apart from all of the other things he has written....

Dark is good as long as it's intelligent dark.

Actually, Alan Moore never wrote for "Hellblazer," Constanine's solo title. He did create the character during his seminal run on "Swamp Thing." As I recall, the character came from a request from one of the artists (probably Steve Bissette), who wanted to drawn a Sting-lookalike.

But, when DC/Vertigo decided to give Constantine a solo book, they offered it to Moore... who declined. He suggested Jamie Delano, who indeed did a very good job. He was followed up by Garth Ennis, who started with a bang in the now-classic "Dangerous Habits" arc. After Ennis, came Warren Ellis, Brian Azzarello, Mike Carey, Andy Diggle, Peter Milligan...

I stand corrected. TY.

I knew that Moore created the character for Swamp Thing. The Constantine storyline still stands out among all of the other intelligent wyrdness in that series.

I didn't know that he'd passed the character on to other writers. (Work-for-hire! What can you do?)

For another example of deeply wyrd by Moore, have a look at "Promethea".

I can't even begin to describe the complexity, or the richness of the symbolism in there. Definitely chewy reading.