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Question WA 2055: A new 'series'

7 years 5 months ago - 7 years 5 months ago #1 by CrazyMinh
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    • A couple of days ago, I finished reading the OC story 'The Braeburn Report'. When I finished (skipping over the mildly pornographic sections), I started writing a story guide for another generation. WA is a great community, and I've really enjoyed the stories. But the problem is that a lot of the original stories have not been 'tied off'. OK, going to use a metaphor here. There's a popular tabletop game called Warhammer: Age of Sigmar. Thing was, it wasn't always Age of Sigmar. When Warhammer first came ut, it was known as Warhammer Fantasy Battles, At the end of WFB's lifetime (and the reincarnation of the game in Age of Sigmar), the developers made a new 'era' in-game which was called...The End Times. Now, this sounds ominous. It is. Basically, everything went to shit and the world was reborn after this Ragnarok as Warhammer: Age of Sigmar. Now, I'm not even joking when I say that I don't want ANY of this site to be reincarnated. As with the creation of the 2nd Generation, I'd like to help advance the Whateley Academy story to the literal end times for Homo Sapiens, and the beginning of a new era. Don't be fooled: Old characters will return and play a vastly different role in how this plays out. Below is a brief draft synopsis for what the timeline's theme will be:

    The year is 2055. Humanity is dying out, being replaced by Mutantkind. Whateley Academy's secret is now well known, and the school is in jeopardy. [EDIT: Sorry, previous synopsis crept in. Updated from my Mac's Time Machine and restored the most recent edit to the Writing guide. Ignore striked out section. Sorry for the confusion] The world is decending into chaos due to the leaking of the Braeburn Report that predicts the end of Homo Sapiens in this year. Humanity First is now a major movement, and the power balance is changing. But...our story does not focus on the outside world. It focuses on how the school copes with the End Times of the WA universe (without the ending of our story), and how four students can make a difference. This is...Whateley 2055.

    So, any thoughts?? (very anticlimactic after the previous paragraph, I know). I'd like to get the opinion of the remaining OC authors, and like to get the green light to continue writing the opening story I have in progress. Just BTW, I'm aware I'm new. I'm aware that I only have two stories on this site. Plus, this new continuity is a big shock. It upsets areas of the feel of Whateley, and it's a big departure from simply going from 2004 to 2016. However, there is a analogy for this. Back after the original Star Trek was cancelled (sorry for all the references to cancellation (i'm aware that that might subconsciously put some people off)), fans lobbied for a new series. Once they heard about what would become Star Trek: The Next Generation, they were angry pre-release that it wouldn't be about Kirk, Spock or any of the other crew (much like I'm incessantly angry post-release about the new series of star trek, Sexually Transmitted Disease Star Trek: Discovery). However, when it came out, it established itself as a valued part of the canon. It went on to spawn two spinoffs set in the same era, and a failed prequel that honestly is better than the 2017 Star Trek. My point is, change may happen. But it does, and you must be ready to accept whatever comes your way with open arms. Heh...that's kinda like the whateleyverse. Point is, I'm ready to pull this together if I'm given the Green light!!!
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    7 years 5 months ago #2 by E!
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    • Seems like a neat idea. I never really followed the original WH when I played with GW, I was always a 40k nerd.

    I don't know if this will answer your question or not. But somewhere buried deep in the depths of this forum lies a rough setting outline for Whateley Gen 3. Its in a post made by Kristen, and its an early grounded scifi setting. Some people/countries/companies have space ships, and there is a small asteroid mining. Also an alien race sends raiders every now and then for honor. I'll try and find the post and edit the link in.
    7 years 5 months ago #3 by CrazyMinh
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    • Same here.40k fan all the way!!!
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    7 years 5 months ago - 7 years 5 months ago #4 by Kristin Darken
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    • Yes, I do have a 'third' generation idea in mind... actually posed it as the basis for the Gen 2 plotline, but the authors involved in that group had something else in mind that they wanted to do and were not inclined to working in a sci-fi / space / combat action genre.

    Kristin Darken wrote: Gen 3 is currently penciled in as a move in the sci-fi direction. Earth will have moved into intrastellar space, heavily developing the asteroid belt and moons for industrial development, with numerous FTL exploratory projects in their early stages. All this poking around outside of our solar system will alert our neighbors in this arm of the galaxy of a new player and Earth will be invaded... mostly by an alien species known for their tribal/clan behavior and war/combat based honor system.

    While fairly strong physically, the continued growth of the mutant population and the commercialization of power armor has resulted in making Earth a very popular place for young clan members to raid to test themselves. Truthfully, most of them get their asses handed to them... but it has yet to escalate to the scale that the leading clans and their famous champions have been drawn into the fight. Because our FTL is still mostly in the hands of private developers and inventors (many of whom are Gadgeteers), Earth governments don't have ships to take the fight out of the Sol system. Several nations, however, do have near Earth and central system sublight and skip-drive fleets with fairly strong armaments. Enough so that only about one in three raiding forces even get to the planet to land. Only a few of managed to cause any damage of note... our own supervillains tend to be worse.


    At this point in technological development, mutant and paranormal powers are actually overshadowed by weapons and armor... except in the instance of 'enhanced' equipment. And that is where the Whateley Academy (and cutting edge of paranormal support) is focused. While the same effort is put into the development of the internal powers, some of the leading Gadgeteers and inventors work to develop tech that complements or improves upon their base abilities... boosting the power scale from the low levels that we've kept them in the WU to a scale that allows for the sort of world class heroic deeds that involve challenging alien power armor and warships. Some of that would take the form of power armor or exosuits... some would be integrated into fighter/intercepter craft. The 'largest' ships in this sort of fleet would be frigate or destroyer class ships that are manned by multiple mutants... a PK into the shielding, an ESPer into sensors and targeting, a Warper and/or Energizer at Weapons... and so on.

    Of course, that's all just foundation gimmick and background scenery.

    To be a viable 'canon' timeline it would also have to minimize timeline integration (meaning, that characters - even support characters) from prior timeline could only make appearances, even at the cameo level, with the agreement of the original team / author of that character. The reason for this being, of course, that even just the presence of said character in a future timeline means many things for each story put out about that character from now until that time. The simple fact of knowing that they survive removes the impact of tension and cliffhangers where they are in danger, more or less permanently.

    Finally, nothing gets 'canon' status without being approved and going through feedback/continuity checking from the rest of the canon team. As is explained to people on a fairly regular basis when they express an interest in being canon... that it is far less about being a good author, though that helps. Being canon is far more about being able to work as part of the team, and we're sometimes prickly, sometimes demanding, and often hard to work with people... we're that way mostly because we love the universe and refuse to let standards for it drop, and it can be challenging to sustain the amount of material that is put out by the team for as long as it's been active. Do we love that you're enthusiastic and hellbent on taking a corner of the universe and putting your stamp on it and getting other people to join you in doing so and loving that part of it also? Yes... absolutely. Great energy.
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    7 years 5 months ago #5 by CrazyMinh
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    • @KirstenDarken, I do know about running it past you guys, which is why I'm currently writing the draft of the opening story. I've finished the writing guide (and I'm sure that it will soon be irrelelvant IF the new timeline is authorised) and I'm staying true to established canon. I'm going to PM you with the draft of the first story for feedback. I don't know how to get it to the remaining Canon authros, so i'll leave that to you. Look for a PM from me later today.

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    • Crud. Just realised that I cant send attatchments through messaging. Well, I'll attach it to this forum so everyone can read ti.
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    7 years 5 months ago #7 by Malady
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    • Umm... What format is it supposed to be read in? 'Cause Wordpad seems to be giving weird things for quotation marks?

    Cool name though! "Nova".
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    7 years 5 months ago #8 by CrazyMinh
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    • Itnwas originally a .docx. I couldn't upload it in that form unfortunately. Yes, I know: I ue word. Who the hell doesn't??? It's a very versatile text editor, and I'm happy with it. I could use something else, but I don't. So yeah, I basically had to convert it into a .txt to upload. Sorry for the confusion.
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    7 years 5 months ago #9 by Kristin Darken
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    • the attachment type list is limited mainly to prevent people from attaching files that can be used to corrupt or hack the database. nothing to do with specific software types.
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    7 years 5 months ago #10 by CrazyMinh
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    • A quick note here, I'm currently stalled with my writing at the moment due to my exams coming up. I'm interested to hear what the remaining Canon Cabal think (every time I hear the word cabal now, I tend to think of power-armoured, millitaristic Space-rhinos. been playing too much Destiny...)
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    7 years 5 months ago #11 by CrazyMinh
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    • Any by think, I mean "Is this a good idea and should it be at least trialled for canon?". I mean, have you thought about having a Trial based canon system for these sort of suggestions and/or ideas-from-the-existing-team? To be honest, while a space-based series sounds great, I don't think it really realtes to the setting. I mean, the stories are called 'Whateley Acadamy'. Of course, you could do a enders'game style space school, ut that wouldn't fit the Modus Operandi of the school and setting. I think a breif jump into the near future would be ideal, or a venture into the early days of Whateley (like pre-2004). Or, a series more focused on graduates of Whateley who are now setting up in the world. All these Ideas work (at least in my...sorta shaky opinion. I mean, I'm still kinda new here (but that doesn't stop me grasping concepts as quickly as I do anyway)). Sorry if this is a little bit of a rant. I tend to find I put ideas out best through long, rambling talk on forums. Doesn't help of course but...OK, going to shut up before someone whips out the digital duct tape. Sorry!!!
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    7 years 5 months ago #12 by Kristin Darken
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    • As I mentioned previously, consideration for canon has far less to do with concept and writing quality than it does about the ability to integrate ideas with existing plans and more specifically, the author... into the existing team. We appreciate your energy, but keep in mind that the core authors of the team have been working on this universe for 13-14 years... and even the newest authors, Phoenix, Elrod, Morpheus, and the Gen 2 authors... have 3-4 years. And ALL of them were community members and authors first, with a couple years of WhatIF stories under their belts... or at least active involvement in the forums. And most have years of familiarity with the stories even before they wrote stories in the setting.

    And no, we're actually not currently considering a new 'series' or generation for canon. Mainly because we've barely enough authors to sustain the two timelines we have now with regular releases. A new timeline needs 6-10 reasonably producing authors (you can do it with fewer, but that requires both faster writing and more external support on feedback/editing process). With 6-10 authors, the feedback process can be sustained within the group. So... to start another new group, we would need 6-10 new (unique) authors who are all interested in the SAME setting/concept for plot development and those authors would all need to be able to work together as a team... not only within themselves, but also with regards to oversight from the core universe authors, gen 2 authors, and staff. Begin to see the complexity of what you're suggesting and why we're not making snap decisions about it? :)
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