Question Yearbook on Pinterest

Hi All,

I created THIS Pinterest board one night and it has blossomed into a good start. I started using one-shot photos I found but started going to models because they have so many photos to help bring the character to life.

I'd LOVE suggestions for other models for characters.

What do you think?

While I'm still in favor of commissioning some art, this is the next best thing.

thanks!

It's an interesting idea, though I have to say Pinterest is almost unusable due to their ad spam and It's nearly impossible to sort what were the images you liked, and for who and what were 'suggestions'. It got worse when I logged in, your captions went completely away! Oh well, perhaps a sub wiki?

Yeah a sub wiki would work much better than pintrest which is spam on spam, with spam on spam.

An interesting idea, for sure. Good looking woman, and some nice matches to the names I do recognize.

If you are looking for commissioned art, look on Deviant Art. There's a section named for Whateley, I believe. At the very least, DPRagan and Shia have made a lot of Whateley art too, and there's more, I'm sure.

Mmmnnn. Would an imgur also work?

E. E. Nalley wrote: It's an interesting idea, though I have to say Pinterest is almost unusable due to their ad spam and It's nearly impossible to sort what were the images you liked, and for who and what were 'suggestions'. It got worse when I logged in, your captions went completely away! Oh well, perhaps a sub wiki?

Thanks for the feedback. I went and logged out and wow, all of this other info was there (none of my captions). I logged in and they were all set as I had labeled them. UGH!

I'm happy to shift this over to our site or the WIKI. I'm not so good with coding and thought Pinterest would be the path of least resistance.

I must say that I hate Pinterest. Hate with a blacker sort of hate than directed even towards Facebook. Not only it tracks you in all sorts of ways (like Facebook and Google do, to be sure), but they make it particularly hard to log off the site. Also, it pollutes any image searches you do from major search engines with useless links (that only became marginally usable -- as in, supplying perhaps 10% of the usability that you would expect from any other site) if you log on.

I can see something useful in most social networks, even if the "something" does not really apply to me.

Facebook at least supplies a sorta-valuable service in exchange for the spying and the annoyances. No, not keeping in touch with your friends. The really valuable service Facebook supplies is to act as a dumping ground for all that crap (hoaxes, cat pictures, "inspiring" semi-religous Powerpoint slide shows...) that your aunts used to spam your mailbox with. Now they post the crap on Facebook instead of sending to everybody in their address books, and I can just ignore it.

Linkedin is useful to keep business contacts separate from the personal contacts.

Google Plus falls somewhat in the middle between FB and Linkedin -- not as personal as FB, not as businesslike as LinkedIn. It's like a slightly more adult, somewhat nerdier Facebook.

Twitter allows one to post what passes for thoughts.

Instagram is a way to post one's photos (and also to deceive yourself into thinking you are an "artist" because you applied the same standard filter everyone else uses). I'm not a member, because I don't take many photos and I'm willing to wait until people go through their vacation photos and copy them to Facebook. But I can see the attraction.

But to my worldview, Pinterest is useless and pointless. I mean, for the most part it's people rearranging other people's images, without even adding captions. It's not a way to communicate, it's not a way to express yourself... it's a waste of good server space.

Sir Lee wrote: But to my worldview, Pinterest is useless and pointless. I mean, for the most part it's people rearranging other people's images, without even adding captions. It's not a way to communicate, it's not a way to express yourself... it's a waste of good server space.

O great keeper of the Wiki, do you have a good idea for this project? I'd love to find a way to make it work.

Thanks!

No, I don't really have an idea. And I'm sorry if I came out as hostile to the idea and/or critical of you. I was just venting against Pinterest.

Somebody suggested a sub-Wiki, that's probably feasible but I didn't dig into the Wikia docs to figure out how to do it. Diane suggested a gallery here at the site, if someone bothers to figure out the necessary parameters. If you prove me wrong and show that Pinterest has an use case after all, more power to you.

I do have a Pinterest account (which I was sorta forced to create to deal with all the link pollution in Google Images), but I was so angry at the time that I used the name "Fake Account" and a middle finger as my avatar. If it turns out that Pinterest is actually useful, I might even create a "real" account there.

Sir Lee wrote: No, I don't really have an idea. And I'm sorry if I came out as hostile to the idea and/or critical of you. I was just venting against Pinterest.

No worries, we good. I was being wacky, which doesn't translate well in a forum.

Personally, I don't see the attraction in appropriating a bunch of other people's photos that look vaguely like Whateley characters, and I'd be perfectly content to relegate that kind of thing to Pinterest.

If something of that nature is done through this site, however, it does need to be handled in a way that doesn't bury actual fan-art and cosplay under an endless stream of half-nude models who happen to share the same hair color and ethnicity as a Whateley student. Not to imply that it takes no effort to put together a large quality cast of lookalikes, but on a per-image basis, the amount of work is far, far lower than drawing something or making a costume. That disparity means it needs to be handled differently. Kind of like how we don't publish individual micro-scenes through the WhatIF system, and we don't publish 200k word stories through the micro-scenes thread.

So for example, the art widget shouldn't select images at random with equal probability from all images on the site, since then it would end up flooded by lookalikes and would almost never show fan-art. It would either need to employ weighting to reduce the odds of selecting any given lookalike image, or else handle lookalikes at the gallery level instead of at the individual image level. For example, if there are 100 pieces of fan-art and 5 lookalike galleries of 40 images each, then each piece of fan-art would have a 1/105 chance of showing up. The other 5/105 times it would pick one of the lookalike galleries instead, in which case it would either show the gallery's cover-image, if defined, or else a random image selected from that gallery.

Also, the image submission process should have a way to tag images as being lookalikes so that people doing an image search can easily filter their search to include or omit them as needed. (That goes for cosplay and Canon vs. WhatIF as well, but I don't mean to turn this into a generic "What we want from the image system" thread.)

I think that there are other things that'd be better prioritized. while it'd certainly be cool to put up a display of "characters", I think that other things should take priority. I mean good if you want pictures of the students, but they don't even all have proper pictures on the wiki, and some that do could be done to better quality.

You're right about that Kristin. I think we need to think carefully about how we would go about this. Personally I'd like to see something that maintained the proprietary rights to original works as much as possible while still getting exposure for them to a wider audience. So I'm thinking that establishing an art gallery here might be too much work for Kristin, yet that is more what would meet my first condition that is conditional permission to post to this site. But to do that you couldn't have photos unless they were by specific permission of the photographer and subject.
What I see are a lot of legal hurdles that probably make this idea a lot of work for someone. That said I reiterate my opinion that pintrest is spam on spam with spam on spam. They never leave what you put there alone but put in 'similar' images that may or may not really be relevant to your theme just to earn a soo.