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9 years 3 months ago #1
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One let me say that; as much as I 'don't' comment or make ref to where I will and fail to do so, does not mean that I don't care about your stories. I enjoy them even with the anguish you put some of your characters through. I enjoy them else I wouldn't read them and for me to 'be' able to read them is an effort at times. Not because of the pain or happiness you show its just a hard fact for me. There are times its hard to stay focused (which I've had to train myself to do) an when I want to comment how it tends to ramble off before coming back. Well I hope it comes back.
I for one am hoping to have a summer story about Kayda, Danny and the others. The other process is our egos. As with that I'm referring to what you and many hope for is some form of feedback even if its a quick response of 'Nice Story' or it just sucks, to thats not my cup of (insert favorite drink) but overall its (fill in the blank here).
As for work and so forth its been, I'm sure both emotional and taxing for you and your family. But I would say to look at it on a more positive note if any. You were able to put some of your frustration into the story. And here, I hope, to enjoy some of the fray that's been going on, to lighten the mood for you.
So please write a summer story, leave it out of Whateley if you wish but please continue to allow us to read your fruits of labor. I know I'm coming across as some high amount of sugar but for me it gives me a bit of relief and I'm sure others, of their own situations.
So take heart that there are those that 'want' to read more, even if they are reluctant to say so, for if they didn't I'm sure they would say so otherwise.
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I for one am hoping to have a summer story about Kayda, Danny and the others. The other process is our egos. As with that I'm referring to what you and many hope for is some form of feedback even if its a quick response of 'Nice Story' or it just sucks, to thats not my cup of (insert favorite drink) but overall its (fill in the blank here).
As for work and so forth its been, I'm sure both emotional and taxing for you and your family. But I would say to look at it on a more positive note if any. You were able to put some of your frustration into the story. And here, I hope, to enjoy some of the fray that's been going on, to lighten the mood for you.
So please write a summer story, leave it out of Whateley if you wish but please continue to allow us to read your fruits of labor. I know I'm coming across as some high amount of sugar but for me it gives me a bit of relief and I'm sure others, of their own situations.
So take heart that there are those that 'want' to read more, even if they are reluctant to say so, for if they didn't I'm sure they would say so otherwise.
Ibi
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9 years 3 months ago #4
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9 years 3 months ago #8
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Many people hear voices when no-one is there.
Some are called 'mad' and shut up in rooms where they stare at the walls all day.
Others are called 'writers' and they do pretty much the same thing.
-Ray Bradbury
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Hmm, well I've been away from the Whateley-verse for awhile so I'm trying to get caught up, which is why I haven't read Kayda yet, I'll admit the sheer volume of Kayda stories is bit intimidating at least to me which is why I focused on Morpheus' 'Imp' stories and Sleethr's 'Whisper' because they don't have the massive cross-over and volume that the Kayda stories have. However from what other have been saying in the forms it does seem like an excellent collection and I will get around to reading sometime, likely as soon as I can figure out in what order to read them.
Which is also an bit of hiccup with stories moving from site-to-site, I might need a flow chart to keep the stories straight and in chronological order.
As for the rest, yeah I can understand how Real Life crap can beat you down, my life is massively screwed up right now due to physical and mental health issues that are likely not to be resolved soon, but I try to keep writing even if 90% doesn't go anywhere but the circular file bin. As for your writing all I can say is vent on your characters rather than yourself, it's healthier for you, and they can't fight back, and since they will likely recover from whatever you inflict on them they can help you recover as well.
Dammit now I have to read the Kayda stories...urgh ok they start where and progress in this fashion...but crossover with...ok I need a drink and maybe a TARDIS.
Which is also an bit of hiccup with stories moving from site-to-site, I might need a flow chart to keep the stories straight and in chronological order.
As for the rest, yeah I can understand how Real Life crap can beat you down, my life is massively screwed up right now due to physical and mental health issues that are likely not to be resolved soon, but I try to keep writing even if 90% doesn't go anywhere but the circular file bin. As for your writing all I can say is vent on your characters rather than yourself, it's healthier for you, and they can't fight back, and since they will likely recover from whatever you inflict on them they can help you recover as well.
Dammit now I have to read the Kayda stories...urgh ok they start where and progress in this fashion...but crossover with...ok I need a drink and maybe a TARDIS.
Many people hear voices when no-one is there.
Some are called 'mad' and shut up in rooms where they stare at the walls all day.
Others are called 'writers' and they do pretty much the same thing.
-Ray Bradbury
9 years 3 months ago #9
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As the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only left-handers are in their right mind!
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Going by hit count:
To Sleep - 1,794
Penance - 3,184
Medicine Girl - 2,677
Galatea - 3,087
CBHD1 - 3,327
CBHD2 - 2,107
CBHD3 - 1,578
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SGGA - 3,881
Gen 2 Announcement - 2,864
Calamari - 2,913
Compare that to content migrated over, which tends to be in the low hundreds, and factor in activity levels over the past month or so will have been lower than average due to the Christmas / New Year period (some won't have been able to visit the site at all, while others will have been sneaking glimpses on mobile devices which are better suited to reading than commenting), and you're not doing that badly!
Besides which, I assume you're not getting lots of comments / PMs along the lines of "Kayda sucks!"
However, since characters we haven't seen for a while tend to get more attention than characters we've seen a lot, if you're primarily interested in a big reaction to the next Kayda story, wait a few months...
On the other hand, if you're not getting actual negative vibes, 14 pages of comments probably translates to at least half a dozen people who are motivated enough to not only read the story but write something about it as well. Forget for a moment this is a virtual space, and imagine reciting the story to an audience of around 1,500 people. You'd probably be thrilled if half a dozen stayed behind to discuss it and ask you questions. Numbers aren't everything - why are you writing? Is it for your own pleasure or to get over 3,000 hits and dozens of pages of comments per chapter/episode?
Perhaps you should take your signature quote to heart...
To Sleep - 1,794
Penance - 3,184
Medicine Girl - 2,677
Galatea - 3,087
CBHD1 - 3,327
CBHD2 - 2,107
CBHD3 - 1,578
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SGGA - 3,881
Gen 2 Announcement - 2,864
Calamari - 2,913
Compare that to content migrated over, which tends to be in the low hundreds, and factor in activity levels over the past month or so will have been lower than average due to the Christmas / New Year period (some won't have been able to visit the site at all, while others will have been sneaking glimpses on mobile devices which are better suited to reading than commenting), and you're not doing that badly!
Besides which, I assume you're not getting lots of comments / PMs along the lines of "Kayda sucks!"
However, since characters we haven't seen for a while tend to get more attention than characters we've seen a lot, if you're primarily interested in a big reaction to the next Kayda story, wait a few months...
On the other hand, if you're not getting actual negative vibes, 14 pages of comments probably translates to at least half a dozen people who are motivated enough to not only read the story but write something about it as well. Forget for a moment this is a virtual space, and imagine reciting the story to an audience of around 1,500 people. You'd probably be thrilled if half a dozen stayed behind to discuss it and ask you questions. Numbers aren't everything - why are you writing? Is it for your own pleasure or to get over 3,000 hits and dozens of pages of comments per chapter/episode?
Perhaps you should take your signature quote to heart...
As the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only left-handers are in their right mind!
9 years 3 months ago #13
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9 years 3 months ago #15
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Many people hear voices when no-one is there.
Some are called 'mad' and shut up in rooms where they stare at the walls all day.
Others are called 'writers' and they do pretty much the same thing.
-Ray Bradbury
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To echo what Kristen has said, yes burnout can be a bitch, and that story-giving birth waiting feedback-postpartum depression thing hit the nail on the head squarely and with great force. Thanks for that analogy Kristen its perfect. I may steal that in the future to explain the writing thing to other people.
Also to add to the suggestion pile, and I'm firing blind here since I don't know your taste in entertainment, you might try 'The Expanse' very good sci-fi show, the science is quite hard for it being on TV, it takes off slow but by ep 4 you realize that you just been introduced to the background and characters. It's not the typical hit you over the head with all the intro material 15 mins in and cue the needless action/T&A scene.
What else? Well I'm going to plug Jim Butcher's 'Dresden Files' and 'Codex Aleria' as awesome reads with alot of good humour in them, of course there is always Terry Pratchett's 'Diskworld' which is high fanasty with the Marx Brothers. Then again you could just fire up YouTube and binge on the comedian of your choice.
You are a good writer, I've following you since you wrote 'In the Stripper's Image' on FM, and although as I've mentioned before I haven't read the Kayda stories yet (I'm working on it, I promise) I gave a big mental 'Waahooo!!' when I saw that you and Morpheus had joined the Whateley-verse. That right there is a measure of how much you and your stories are appreciated, that when I read that you had joined the Canon Cabal (yes I know there is no Canon Cabal
) I had no doubts what so ever that you would an excellent addition and addiction.
One example of how much the Kayda stories have achieved recognition is how often they are mentioned in other threads, when someone makes a reference to or compares another character/situation to Kayda. Your influence around here cannot be measured by 'Hits' on your stories, or feedback, but in the 'Dents' that Kayda et all has had on the collective conscience of us forum junkies and fan fic writers. Hell some fan fic writers are comparing their stories suffering and angst to Kayda's situation.
Think about that, you inspired a measurement of suffering and angst in others stories, in a humorous tongue way true, but in the back of alot peoples minds they are rating other stories on a Kayda scale. That my friend is impressive.
Also to add to the suggestion pile, and I'm firing blind here since I don't know your taste in entertainment, you might try 'The Expanse' very good sci-fi show, the science is quite hard for it being on TV, it takes off slow but by ep 4 you realize that you just been introduced to the background and characters. It's not the typical hit you over the head with all the intro material 15 mins in and cue the needless action/T&A scene.
What else? Well I'm going to plug Jim Butcher's 'Dresden Files' and 'Codex Aleria' as awesome reads with alot of good humour in them, of course there is always Terry Pratchett's 'Diskworld' which is high fanasty with the Marx Brothers. Then again you could just fire up YouTube and binge on the comedian of your choice.
You are a good writer, I've following you since you wrote 'In the Stripper's Image' on FM, and although as I've mentioned before I haven't read the Kayda stories yet (I'm working on it, I promise) I gave a big mental 'Waahooo!!' when I saw that you and Morpheus had joined the Whateley-verse. That right there is a measure of how much you and your stories are appreciated, that when I read that you had joined the Canon Cabal (yes I know there is no Canon Cabal
) I had no doubts what so ever that you would an excellent addition and addiction.One example of how much the Kayda stories have achieved recognition is how often they are mentioned in other threads, when someone makes a reference to or compares another character/situation to Kayda. Your influence around here cannot be measured by 'Hits' on your stories, or feedback, but in the 'Dents' that Kayda et all has had on the collective conscience of us forum junkies and fan fic writers. Hell some fan fic writers are comparing their stories suffering and angst to Kayda's situation.
Think about that, you inspired a measurement of suffering and angst in others stories, in a humorous tongue way true, but in the back of alot peoples minds they are rating other stories on a Kayda scale. That my friend is impressive.
Many people hear voices when no-one is there.
Some are called 'mad' and shut up in rooms where they stare at the walls all day.
Others are called 'writers' and they do pretty much the same thing.
-Ray Bradbury
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Something else to factor into the hit counts is that there are still some of us, I couldn't guess how many, who are trying to read all the Gen 1 stories in rough chronological (by Whateley calendar) order. At the moment, it is still far easier to do that using the chronology and links from the original forum, at
crystalhall.org/storiesSort2.html
I have no idea if the hit counts from there are accessible any more.
I do like Kayda as a person and as a well thought out mutant character, but you can add me to the list of those who think the angst and death threats are becoming a bit much.
Maybe Kayda needs to meet the Monkey King.
crystalhall.org/storiesSort2.html
I have no idea if the hit counts from there are accessible any more.
I do like Kayda as a person and as a well thought out mutant character, but you can add me to the list of those who think the angst and death threats are becoming a bit much.
Maybe Kayda needs to meet the Monkey King.
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With the exception of closing up the MM thread with his final attack, the death threats and nastiness ended with Riddle of Sappho.
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Amelia_R wrote: Something else to factor into the hit counts is that there are still some of us, I couldn't guess how many, who are trying to read all the Gen 1 stories in rough chronological (by Whateley calendar) order. At the moment, it is still far easier to do that using the chronology and links from the original forum, at
crystalhall.org/storiesSort2.html
I have no idea if the hit counts from there are accessible any more.
I do like Kayda as a person and as a well thought out mutant character, but you can add me to the list of those who think the angst and death threats are becoming a bit much.
Maybe Kayda needs to meet the Monkey King.
With the exception of closing up the MM thread with his final attack, the death threats and nastiness ended with Riddle of Sappho.
Never give up, Never surrender! Captain Peter Quincy Taggert
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With the exceptions of Snakey and his sons, various elements of the MCO (admittedly there are other elements not out to get her), part of her home town, the "mysterious Grey Skies," the gay bashers at Whateley (although she seems to care less and less about their opinions as time goes on)...
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elrodw wrote:
Amelia_R wrote: Something else to factor into the hit counts is that there are still some of us, I couldn't guess how many, who are trying to read all the Gen 1 stories in rough chronological (by Whateley calendar) order. At the moment, it is still far easier to do that using the chronology and links from the original forum, at
crystalhall.org/storiesSort2.html
I have no idea if the hit counts from there are accessible any more.
I do like Kayda as a person and as a well thought out mutant character, but you can add me to the list of those who think the angst and death threats are becoming a bit much.
Maybe Kayda needs to meet the Monkey King.
With the exception of closing up the MM thread with his final attack, the death threats and nastiness ended with Riddle of Sappho.
With the exceptions of Snakey and his sons, various elements of the MCO (admittedly there are other elements not out to get her), part of her home town, the "mysterious Grey Skies," the gay bashers at Whateley (although she seems to care less and less about their opinions as time goes on)...
Don't Drick and Drive.
9 years 3 months ago #22
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9 years 3 months ago #23
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I promise to keep my lips sealed until I see it. And unless you have it really depressing, there will be no booing.
<Quietly shoves pail of rotten tomatoes behind the door, while whistling innocently.>
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Sorry.Kristin Darken wrote: Ugh... the more everyone speculates about Jade's final being the funniest ever, the more it makes me want to pull it back out and leave it as a noodle incident.
I don't think I've ever been so nervous about people seeing something I wrote...
I promise to keep my lips sealed until I see it. And unless you have it really depressing, there will be no booing.
<Quietly shoves pail of rotten tomatoes behind the door, while whistling innocently.>
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9 years 3 months ago #46
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Well, that's where the tomatos came into play. The acid in them breaks down the oil in the scent and washes it out. Any time one of the dogs tangled with a skunk, we just tomato juice bathed them. Considering how much juice and sauce we canned every year, there was never any lack of it... even when we had some really dumb dogs.Domoviye wrote: Throw a box of baking soda in with the clothes when you wash them, it gets the smell out.
Never been sprayed by a skunk but one time a skunk decided to stink up my basement apartment several nights in a row making everything in it reek. Really wished I'd had a gun to shoot the stupid thing.
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Elrod, that sounds like a good group of combat finals. Can't wait to see them.
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True, but for clothes, especially whites, baking soda is better than tomato juice.Kristin Darken wrote:
Well, that's where the tomatos came into play. The acid in them breaks down the oil in the scent and washes it out. Any time one of the dogs tangled with a skunk, we just tomato juice bathed them. Considering how much juice and sauce we canned every year, there was never any lack of it... even when we had some really dumb dogs.Domoviye wrote: Throw a box of baking soda in with the clothes when you wash them, it gets the smell out.
Never been sprayed by a skunk but one time a skunk decided to stink up my basement apartment several nights in a row making everything in it reek. Really wished I'd had a gun to shoot the stupid thing.
Elrod, that sounds like a good group of combat finals. Can't wait to see them.
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I read it. I already told you, "ya done good!"
Don't make me come out there to tell you directly
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Kristin Darken wrote:
Sure. And writing jade is really fun... but I am not exactly on the."go to" list for comedic writing.Phoenix Spiritus wrote:
Hey! Writing Noddle incidents is fun!
I read it. I already told you, "ya done good!"
Don't make me come out there to tell you directly
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And I appreciate that, El... but thats just the nature of the biz. I get nervous about any thing I create or perform... because I care about doing it well. And more so when it is something outside my comfort zone. I *think* its going to be well received but in the meantime, I'm still going to be freaking out until it is released. And then I'll be fine... even if everyone hates it. *shrugs* Brains aren't always logical.
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No Jaunt?
Archangel leave Hazmat out of this, although I bet he could come up with a great anti-skunk smell chemical. Although on second thought I think I would wait for the Mk 2 version, the Mk 1 version is likely to leave the smell and dissolve whatever it was put on.
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elrodw wrote: No matter how nervous Kristin is, Jade's combat final is GOOD. It may not be uproariously funny in each and every word, but it is GOOD and it's nice to see her style again.
I could suggest that I have it and could publish it whether she wants or not, but she has the controls for final access and publication, so my threat would be hollow. Needless to say, it IS a well-written piece.
As to the others - we have Ayla, Star League Junior, the Grunts, Greasy, Wondercute, Venus Inc, G-Force - and that might be it, but I can't remember off the top of my head. Oh yeah, I think we're getting Jadis. So it's a good assortment.
Now, fear not, Kristin - the audience will LOVE the Jade final. I guarantee it.
No Jaunt?
Archangel leave Hazmat out of this, although I bet he could come up with a great anti-skunk smell chemical. Although on second thought I think I would wait for the Mk 2 version, the Mk 1 version is likely to leave the smell and dissolve whatever it was put on.
Don't Drick and Drive.
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Congratulations!elrodw wrote: I got some very good news today. A job opportunity that I'd been hoping for and wondering about came through; management sent out a memo to other managers informing them of the situation. This is hugely to my advantage; I'd been shunted aside, ignored, even shunned by managers for over 14 months. That is highly stressful - more-so than you could imagine.
But now it's over. Downside - I'll spend about 1/4 of my time on TDY in another city, so I'll be away from family periodically. Upside to that - I'm not a party animal, so I'll hole up like a hermit without wife, kids, dogs, and household chores to distract me, so I should have some very productive bursts of writing.
It's a profound relief.
When do you start?
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That's awesome. I know the way they've been treating you has been dragging you down for a good while now. Everyone deserves to work with people who appreciate them. And so few do.elrodw wrote: It's a profound relief.
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