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Question To BE or not to GE

6 years 7 months ago #1 by Cryptic
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  • I'm throwing a twist into my mimic's powers in they take on some traits of the person they're mimicing. Though Jessie is gen2 I'll use the Outcast crew as examples. Mimic Diamond she gains scales, Jericho eyes go blank. Mimic Razor and it gets odd. I can picture things but am having trouble putting it into words. Anyway back to Diamond. Sandra has a larger chest then Jessie's female fom, really most girls do..., and I cant decide if Jessie's chest will refect the girl she's mimicing. Kind of learning towards "Only if they came with manifestation."

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    6 years 7 months ago #2 by Sir Lee
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  • Have her have a minor Shifter trait (with poor control) in addition to the Mimic power -- when she mimics someone, the shifter power gets affected by the mimic power.

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    6 years 7 months ago #3 by Malady
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  • If you tie the body mimic part to only allowing mimicking Exemplars, so no CTA, and stuff, then you've got a good explanation for why some traits are mimicked and others aren't.

    ... Might need to rethink my own character. Or have a Mimic Girls' club... There's a lot of those around? Reverb, etc...
    6 years 7 months ago #4 by Cryptic
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  • Sir Lee wrote: Have her have a minor Shifter trait (with poor control) in addition to the Mimic power -- when she mimics someone, the shifter power gets affected by the mimic power.

    Kind of what I was thinking, though I was thinking one of the first powers mimiced, manifesting is the reason.

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    6 years 7 months ago #5 by Malady
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  • Cryptic wrote:

    Sir Lee wrote: Have her have a minor Shifter trait (with poor control) in addition to the Mimic power -- when she mimics someone, the shifter power gets affected by the mimic power.

    Kind of what I was thinking, though I was thinking one of the first powers mimiced, manifesting is the reason.


    Wait, so she's manifesting as a mimic, but since she's also close to a shifter, she accidentally incorporates some Shifting into her base powerset?

    Makes sense. Wonder how she got into that sitch...
    6 years 7 months ago #6 by Cryptic
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  • Malady wrote: If you tie the body mimic part to only allowing mimicking Exemplars, so no CTA, and stuff, then you've got a good explanation for why some traits are mimicked and others aren't.

    ... Might need to rethink my own character. Or have a Mimic Girls' club... There's a lot of those around? Reverb, etc...


    I was gonna say my parameters allow her to be effected by changelings as well, but I seem to remember something about just an appearance shift being considered exemplar 0 or something like that.

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    6 years 7 months ago - 6 years 7 months ago #7 by Malady
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  • Cryptic wrote:

    Malady wrote: If you tie the body mimic part to only allowing mimicking Exemplars, so no CTA, and stuff, then you've got a good explanation for why some traits are mimicked and others aren't.

    ... Might need to rethink my own character. Or have a Mimic Girls' club... There's a lot of those around? Reverb, etc...


    I was gonna say my parameters allow her to be effected by changelings as well, but I seem to remember something about just an appearance shift being considered exemplar 0 or something like that.


    whateleyacademy.net/index.php/forum/revi.../914-exemplars#16015

    Kristin Darken wrote: Rank 0 - The mutant exhibits some of the precursor abilities commonly associated with the trait but doesn't actually express the trait in a usable way.


    ... Not sure precisely on what that means... But Wiz-0 is things like, "Can see magic", but always without Essence Manipulation?

    Maybe a Ex-0 would just be physical changes, without any mental ones? So in a way, non-Exemplar rated mutants, are Ex-0?

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    Although, if you're talking gender changes, instead of just color changes or something:

    From The Braeburn Report :

    Statistically, they are far more likely to be powerful mutants

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  • Malady wrote:

    Kristin Darken wrote: Rank 0 - The mutant exhibits some of the precursor abilities commonly associated with the trait but doesn't actually express the trait in a usable way.


    ... Not sure precisely on what that means... But Wiz-0 is things like, "Can see magic", but always without Essence Manipulation?

    Maybe a Ex-0 would just be physical changes, without any mental ones? So in a way, non-Exemplar rated mutants, are Ex-0?


    Exemplar, by default, includes a wide variety of improvements from the human norm without offering up any unique 'power' that seems outside the capability of that norm: no psionic abilities, no energy beams and fields, no ability to tap energy or resources from extradimensional sources. It also locks in those improvements through the existance of the BIT, which is a part of an entities higher order meta-data (like DNA for biological make-up, but on a multi-dimensional scale). The standard ratings for Exemplar apply to a combined departure from the current timeline in evolutionary traits... as such, higher ratings will typically be smarter, more adaptable, stronger, faster, more durable, and able to bring more mental fortitude to their actions than lower ratings.

    Standard rankings run from 2 to 6.

    A ranking of 2 represents a BIT with capabilities within reach of baseline humans of exceptional (world class) ability and training; but where a Olympic medalist sprinter might conceivably outrun an Exemplar 2 at the 100 meter... it would also take a gold medalist weight lifter to out lift the same mutant, a gold medalist martial artist to outspar them, a Stephen Hawkings or Einstein to out theorize, and so forth. Additionally, that baseline will spend most of their life training to be at that level... the mutant will need little exercise and skill to reach it, and will stay at that level without significant effort throughout their life. Typically a mutant is ranked where their predominant traits are... meaning, some mutants may have different levels of mental and physical traits... or only one of the two. This is uncommon and often more a mindset resistant to using the new abilities than their absence from the mutation.

    A ranking of 7 might be granted in cases where the mutant has an evolutionary trait that has not be previously classified (that grants an unusual or extreme ability far beyond baseline). A ranking of 1 also occasionally is made where the mutant's BIT is locked within the normal range of human capability. This gives the mutant some extra durability and regenerative ability... they may not heal faster than a baseline human, but when they eventually do it will re-establish health at the BIT's original standard (so they will age exceedingly well, and without scars or permanent injury, even from things a baseline human would not survive).

    An Exemplar 0 - as with all 0 rankings, isn't truly an exemplar in the traditional sense, but is an aspect of a manifestation that is fairly minor and doesn't generally occur except when that trait also exists. In a sense, it's an ability that might be a precursor evolution or a side-branch evolution for one of the traits that have been commonly identified. An Exemplar 0 ranking might be 'granted' in the case of a minor physical or mental change during manifestation that is NOT locked in with a BIT.

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  • When a BIT for an Exemplar is established, what kind of paranormal essence does it tap into to draw on? An internalized psychic impression, or more of a zeitgeist effect?

    A female exemplar that manifests in present day trends towards modern day supermodel aesthetics, and the men more toward the oh-so-dreamy Scott Emerson type. But if Exemplars' physical appearances are geared toward being attractive, wouldn't toward the beginning (or even going back to The Last Ride time period) women Exemplars would be significantly more curvy (Gibson girls) then in the 1920s switch to flappers, while men would fall more toward Edgar Rice Burroughs heroes?
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  • The answer to that question is... yes. As in, yes, it taps into the collective consciousness. Also, yes, it taps into your personal ideation. Also, yes, its actually not doing either one of those things and the BIT is a pre-existing piece of data in the universal extradimensional data stream that happens to bond to the individual during that moment of manifestation.

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    6 years 7 months ago #11 by Mister D
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  • Kristin Darken wrote: The answer to that question is... yes. As in, yes, it taps into the collective consciousness. Also, yes, it taps into your personal ideation. Also, yes, its actually not doing either one of those things and the BIT is a pre-existing piece of data in the universal extradimensional data stream that happens to bond to the individual during that moment of manifestation.


    This sounds an awful lot like the rationale behind Alan Moore's Promethea, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promethea

    It's an excellent chronicling of one person's journey through the Tree of Life, and also shows Moore's approach towards how this connections could work.


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