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Question Genocide or slaves?

4 years 5 months ago #1 by Cryptic
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  • Trying to work out what my OC does to the races of the Courts she concours, genocide or slave races under her rule. Dragons seem like to much of a pain to keep, but dwarves would be useful. Mers... giant fish tank in the throne room?

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    4 years 5 months ago #2 by Bek D Corbin
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  • Genocide or Slavery- wow, your new character really sounds like a charmer, real Mother Theresa material
    4 years 5 months ago #3 by Mister D
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  • Bek D Corbin wrote: Genocide or Slavery- wow, your new character really sounds like a charmer, real Mother Theresa material


    It sounds like a normal warlord, from any time period ranging from the early bronze age to the present day.

    It'll be an interesting challenge.

    Writing a character that is evil/inhuman, and making the readers want to continue reading the story, is a really interesting balancing act.

    Looking forward to seeing how you do it. :D


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    4 years 5 months ago #4 by Cryptic
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  • Bek D Corbin wrote: Genocide or Slavery- wow, your new character really sounds like a charmer, real Mother Theresa material


    Sundering is defused, an upstart ganks the Nine Queens, and makes war on the other Courts. Yes, she is a real peach. Thankfully she is not the pov character.

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    4 years 5 months ago #5 by Malady
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  • Cryptic wrote:

    Bek D Corbin wrote: Genocide or Slavery- wow, your new character really sounds like a charmer, real Mother Theresa material


    Sundering is defused, an upstart ganks the Nine Queens, and makes war on the other Courts. Yes, she is a real peach. Thankfully she is not the pov character.


    How did they gank the Queens???! Aren't they magical powerhouses?
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  • Malady wrote:

    Cryptic wrote:

    Bek D Corbin wrote: Genocide or Slavery- wow, your new character really sounds like a charmer, real Mother Theresa material


    Sundering is defused, an upstart ganks the Nine Queens, and makes war on the other Courts. Yes, she is a real peach. Thankfully she is not the pov character.


    How did they gank the Queens???! Aren't they magical powerhouses?

    They were. They were destroyed by The Bastard, who was essentially a GOO-created specific target weapon designed to sleaze his way past their defenses and keep going until they were all dead. If anything, The Bastard has been in a Proust-esque hell, what with having no Sidhe Queens to killo
    4 years 5 months ago - 4 years 5 months ago #7 by Mister D
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  • Bek D Corbin wrote:

    Malady wrote:

    Cryptic wrote:

    Bek D Corbin wrote: Genocide or Slavery- wow, your new character really sounds like a charmer, real Mother Theresa material


    Sundering is defused, an upstart ganks the Nine Queens, and makes war on the other Courts. Yes, she is a real peach. Thankfully she is not the pov character.


    How did they gank the Queens???! Aren't they magical powerhouses?

    They were. They were destroyed by The Bastard, who was essentially a GOO-created specific target weapon designed to sleaze his way past their defenses and keep going until they were all dead. If anything, The Bastard has been in a Proust-esque hell, what with having no Sidhe Queens to killo


    Similar to The Destroyer being created to eat GOO's, only aimed at the Sidhe.

    This form of conflict would be taking place universally, as it only requires breakthrough in one place to doom a universe. (Possibly.)

    If the Sidhe were a specific target, then it'll be because they were working with cross-species diplomacy, across the universe.

    The different flavours of "World Tree"-equivalents in other planetary ecologies would be a chewy thing to describe. :D

    There could be some epic space opera there, based around the pre-Sundering, galactic-level, civilisations warring with the GOO's. Like a cross between Brin's Uplift War, Tayler's Schlock Mercenary, and Stross's Laundry Files. :D

    Chewy idea's. :D

    Edit:

    Looked at like this, all of the main story arc for the Team Kimba, and the Atlantean League, is just the current phase in the war that's been going on for thousands of years. :D


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    4 years 5 months ago #8 by null0trooper
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  • Mister D wrote: Looked at like this, all of the main story arc for the Team Kimba, and the Atlantean League, is just the current phase in the war that's been going on for thousands of years. :D


    Are the Sidhe Jedi or Sith?

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    4 years 5 months ago #9 by Sir Lee
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  • First, you have to define what Jedi and Sith ARE. Lucas mixed up two different dualities (the Western Good vs Evil and the Eastern Yin vs. Yang) there in a rather confusing and inconsistent way.

    Then you have do define what the Sidhe are, in a big-picture role. I'm not sure that they are anything more definite than "the magical status quo, pre-Sundering." I mean, the Courts appear to be Order, but the traditional portrayal of faerie tends more to Chaos. There should be Good and Bad Sidhe (witness how Aungh was sabotaged due to court intrigues)... so, they as a species are all over the place. As they should be, the same way humans are all over the place.

    Only then you get to figure out how (or rather, if) they match.

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    4 years 5 months ago #10 by E. E. Nalley
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  • Sir Lee wrote: First, you have to define what Jedi and Sith ARE. Lucas mixed up two different dualities (the Western Good vs Evil and the Eastern Yin vs. Yang) there in a rather confusing and inconsistent way.


    That has to be the most politely way to say that I've ever read, well done, Sir Lee! If you would like to argue Jedi and Sith, I have a somewhat lengthy series of dissertations masquerading as fan fiction in the library Star Wars section...

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    4 years 5 months ago - 4 years 5 months ago #11 by Schol-R-LEA
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  • On thing we haven't seen so far - except with regards to Troll Bride, and maybe (very debatable) Dúrnir - is the split between Seelie and Unseelie, which became common in later versions of the stories but didn't really show up before around 1700 or so as far as I know.

    Even with the Trow and Sluagh (and more recently, Redcaps), there's no actual mention of a formal separation into two opposed-yet-complimentary groups among the Fae, though this may be because there just aren't many Fae around. While the Countess Arvidsen is an unabashed villain, Nephandus seems more just venial, narcissistic, and greedy, and we've seen nothing about either Shadowdancer (Firefox's roommate, not Camille from "Dancing in Shadows") or Red to indicate that they are evil - yes, Red is a rager, but he hates that aspect of himself and is desperate to control it.

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  • Sir Lee wrote: First, you have to define what Jedi and Sith ARE. Lucas mixed up two different dualities (the Western Good vs Evil and the Eastern Yin vs. Yang) there in a rather confusing and inconsistent way.

    Then you have do define what the Sidhe are, in a big-picture role. I'm not sure that they are anything more definite than "the magical status quo, pre-Sundering." I mean, the Courts appear to be Order, but the traditional portrayal of faerie tends more to Chaos. There should be Good and Bad Sidhe (witness how Aungh was sabotaged due to court intrigues)... so, they as a species are all over the place. As they should be, the same way humans are all over the place.

    Only then you get to figure out how (or rather, if) they match.


    I'm under the impression that the term Faerie roughly translates to "Magic Folk." Good, evil, order, or chaos has nothing to do with it. And cover everything from goblins to dragon. Even humans, a little bit.
    4 years 5 months ago #13 by Cryptic
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  • I think I've settled on 90% slavery 10% (mostly the oher royles of the other courts) genoside to attempt to create a vessel to bind the Starstalker. Things go bad, a planet goes boom, all but one of the Artifacter's is Unmake. Shame too, what withe the Mi-go eventually taking a good portion of the outer system.

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