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Question Time Dilation and Properties of Mithril

9 years 4 months ago #1 by Quorry
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  • So, I've been wanting to try writing a fanfic for a while now, and have done a lot of planning. The main character I'm working with has time warping (dilation only) as part of his power set. I was wondering if Mithril would be immune to having it's timeflow changed like it resists having its density changed, or how it won't go into warped spaces. If so, I'm thinking of using it as the basis of a weapon for this character.
    Thoughts?
    9 years 4 months ago #2 by Sir Lee
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  • Mithril has shown weird properties regarding warping: on one hand, it's immune to extradimensional density warping like Phase's; OTOH, it's used to stabilize Thuban's space warping.

    So I guess you can pretty much define how mithril interacts with your particular character's brand of time warping. It's a fanfic, after all. As long as you are consistent in its behavior, it should be fine.

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    9 years 4 months ago #3 by Quorry
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  • All right, thanks. Mithril will be very useful then. I just have to figure out a believable way for my character to get his hands on some.
    9 years 4 months ago #4 by Arcanist Lupus
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  • Dropped in a nearby supervillain/superhero duel?

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    9 years 4 months ago - 9 years 4 months ago #5 by Domoviye
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  • He sees a super fight between a wizard/fighter and a brick. Some of the Wizards armour is torn off. He sees it and thinks, 'wow, something I can sell on eBay for mega bucks!' And grabs it. Hilarity ensues as the wizard tracks him down to get it back.

    Edit: Curses!!! Ninja'd!
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    9 years 4 months ago - 9 years 4 months ago #6 by Quorry
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  • Oh, that is actually a really good idea. See, I was going to have him run afoul of some dark ritual types on the way to Whateley, because he has some sort of demon thing going on. I think he drop-kicks one of them in the face, before making a break for it. Anyways, if they follow his bus to the next stop, that would be a good opportunity for him to be the bystander in a fight like that.

    Edit: and it makes more sense than him deliberately seeking out a source of mithril
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    9 years 4 months ago #7 by Valentine
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  • Alternately a "silver" chain in a pawn shop or antique shop where they don't recognize it as not silver. Of course then how does he know what it really is.

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    9 years 4 months ago #8 by Quorry
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  • I suppose that if he did get it from a shop, then he would realize it was something interesting the first time he tried to move with it after dilating time. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the physics of it. Would things outside his timeflow be easier or more difficult to move?
    If impulse (change in momentum of the target object) is kept constant, then his force will be amplified, but the real-time duration it is affecting will be shorter. It would make things easier to break, and could potentially do more damage. The higher force would make heavy things easier to move, but it might take longer. Like a pulley, I guess. This would also make things lighter than if he brought them into his own time frame, because he would perceive their gravitational acceleration as being smaller (things falling slower).
    This character is going to give me so many headaches.
    9 years 4 months ago - 9 years 4 months ago #9 by Malady
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  • Sir Lee wrote: Mithril has shown weird properties regarding warping: on one hand, it's immune to extradimensional density warping like Phase's; OTOH, it's used to stabilize Thuban's space warping.

    So I guess you can pretty much define how mithril interacts with your particular character's brand of time warping. It's a fanfic, after all. As long as you are consistent in its behavior, it should be fine.


    To me, it seems like Mithril preserves the local 'zone', not allowing changes like extra-dimensional warping, but keeping changes that have already been applied by the time of its introduction, like Thuban's space warping...

    So, if your time-warping affects every branch of reality, or at least the ones that Mithril exists on, as given that it's a magical material (and has 6 different molecule structures, there's gotta be something more to it, perhaps it rotates on the Ana-Kata axis...), then the Mithril would time-warp with you, else it doesn't, and so apply your effects accordingly.

    Basically, if your time-warping extends to the Astral and also causes Magic to react under the same time rules as 'normal' reality, then it probably should apply to Mithril as well?

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    Quorry wrote: Would things outside his timeflow be easier or more difficult to move?
    If impulse (change in momentum of the target object) is kept constant, then his force will be amplified, but the real-time duration it is happening in, will be shorter. It would make things easier to break, and could potentially do more damage. The higher force would make heavy things easier to move, but it might take longer, according to the warper's perception of time.


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    Quorry wrote: This would also make things lighter than if he brought them into his own time frame, because he would perceive their gravitational acceleration as being smaller (things falling slower).


    Could be rephrased better as this?:

    Things outside his time frame would seem lighter, because he would perceive their gravitational acceleration as being smaller (things falling slower).


    Perhaps switch 'frame' for 'warping field'? Is the field size spherical or what?

    The power's effects seem pretty simple. Things unaffected by the field seem easier to do than if they were done in normal time, and things done in the field are like normal time, except it appears faster to outside observers.
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    9 years 4 months ago #10 by Quorry
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  • Well, it isn't a true 'field' because it cannot partially affect anything. The object must be wholly inside his field (which extends a certain distance from his body, but can be shaped slightly) before he can bring it to his time frame. However, he needs to touch the thing first to bring it into his power, at which point it stays in its new time dilation (frame thing) until he cancels his power on himself. I was going to use the mithril as an insulator so he could work with things without bringing them into his power (which happens automatically usually). I guess that could mean the mithril itself can enter his time effect, but he can't extend the effect through the mithril itself. I'm thinking gloves or gauntlets.
    I'm not sure how his power would effect magic. If it did, the magic would have to be part of some object that could fit inside his field.
    The field has another function, as the trigger for his power. When something (must be a physical object) enters his field, he automatically jumps to a dilation of time that is defined by the speed of the object in his field: his walking speed is now about twice the speed of whatever just entered the field.
    9 years 4 months ago - 9 years 4 months ago #11 by Malady
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  • Quorry wrote: Well, it isn't a true 'field' because it cannot partially affect anything. The object must be wholly inside his field (which extends a certain distance from his body, but can be shaped slightly) before he can bring it to his time frame. However, he needs to touch the thing first to bring it into his power, at which point it stays in its new time dilation (frame thing) until he cancels his power on himself. I was going to use the mithril as an insulator so he could work with things without bringing them into his power (which happens automatically usually). I guess that could mean the mithril itself can enter his time effect, but he can't extend the effect through the mithril itself. I'm thinking gloves or gauntlets.


    *nods*

    Quorry wrote: I'm not sure how his power would effect magic.


    You mean 'affect', I think. Effecting magic means casting magic. ... That would be weird/interesting, a warp field that casts magic, while the Warper themselves isn't a wizard...

    Quorry wrote: If it did, the magic would have to be part of some object that could fit inside his field.
    The field has another function, as the trigger for his power. When something (must be a physical object) enters his field, he automatically jumps to a dilation of time that is defined by the speed of the object in his field: his walking speed is now about twice the speed of whatever just entered the field.


    Do you count Photons as physical? 'Cause if you do, you warper's doing FTL or something else that?
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    9 years 4 months ago - 9 years 4 months ago #12 by Quorry
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  • Whoops. I try so hard to get the affect/effect thing right and somehow I keep slipping.
    Nah, I don't count photons as physical. It has to be an object he can see with the naked eye. So, no using atoms or microbes either. FTL isn't possible unless you have something moving at over 50% the speed of light towards him, which is ridiculous.
    Though, while he is in his accelerated mode, if something from outside approaches faster than he is currently set to, he can jump to that higher level. Mostly, it means he has the most ungodly apparent reaction time, able to walk around bullets, etc. It isn't as though you can fake him out with a slow attack then get him with a faster one, or a bullet. It doesn't work for things he has already affected with his power, so he can't boost his speed by trying to punch himself in the face, or by swinging a yoyo at himself or anything. Unless, of course, he was wearing mithril gloves to handle a yoyo that was outside his field to begin with.

    Edit: oops, haha. see, photons. I mean, "See", as in differentiate from the surroundings. So, air currents and water currents don't work either, and probably not energy attacks.
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