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Question Can;t access some stories.

8 years 9 months ago #1 by Tmac319
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  • Following some advice and I have been reading fan fiction in the fabrication area but some of the items don't seem to work properly. In specific, I tried to read Bound written by Light and all that I get is a bunch of empty boxes. Do I need some kind of add-in or something to read these? I normally use Firefox and had much problems with anything else? Thanks in advance.
    8 years 9 months ago #2 by NeoMagus
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  • Unfortunately, no, it looks like you're not missing anything at all. All of Light's fanfics are like that now apparently, so it seems like she went in and redacted all of them at some point by editing each post to show nothing but an ellipse. Which is a real shame, because her work is usually pretty good. I knew she was upset about some things a while back, but I didn't realize she'd gone THAT far... :unsure: :dry:

    ... . . -.- / .--- ..- ... - .. -.-. . .-.-.- / .-.. --- ...- . / -- . .-. -.-. -.-- .-.-.- / .-- .- .-.. -.- / .... ..- -- -... .-.. -.-- / .-- .. - .... / -.-- --- ..- .-. / --. --- -.. .-.-.-
    8 years 9 months ago #3 by elrodw
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  • Light has done that frequently - write, post, and then remove. I'm pretty sure she's done it on BCTS, she's done it here. I don't think it has anything to do with her getting mad at me (which is itself a long story and I won't bother, because my choice of wording might reflect poorly on her). Suffice to say that I've always enjoyed her stories.

    If you see anything published by light, grab a copy, because the next time you look, there's a good chance it'll be gone.

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    8 years 9 months ago #4 by Malady
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  • How does that affect copyright? If you post something then remove it, do you lose copyright on it, due to being unable to show that you originated the stuff??
    8 years 9 months ago #5 by Sir Lee
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  • You never "lose" copyright, unless you explicitly deed something to the Public Domain. Even (non-PD) Creative Commons licenses reserve some rights. But proving you are the original author may be hard without corroborating evidence.

    Having the story posted on a forum may help prove that it existed at a given point in time, establishing precedence over other claims (especially if the forum is mirrored by the Wayback Machine, Google or other uninterested third-party). The forum registration may help associate the posting with a real flesh-and-blood person. But those aren't the only ways.

    It used to be (in the USA) that you had to register a work to have copyright on it. It's no longer required, but a registration is still a pretty solid proof of authorship, although it's a bit expensive for short Web fiction.Some authors used to mail stories to themselves and keep the unopened envelopes, so they could present them (with postmarks) as evidence.

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    8 years 9 months ago #6 by Kristin Darken
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  • But it IS one of the reasons we don't mirror every story at BCTS or elsewhere... and why we ask readers not to make their personal copies accessible by the public. Because if something doesn't get taken down, it is an exercise in the author/group's rights to withhold the IP from public access. If it is available elsewhere, in a fashion that we cannot take down; then that isn't respecting their ownership. And it could cause legal problems.

    Say, for example, a movie studio/producer came to us and said.... "Lots of potential, we want to do an adaptation of the story. But, some of the things in the early story need to be adjusted to avoid legal problems. Those need to be taken offline until they're fixed. As soon as you take care of that, we'll get contracts sent out to your authors, etc." And so we take a bunch of stories offline to fix them. Readers say "don't worry, you can get those stories from my site". We say "no no, don't do that"... and various people thinking they're being helpful cost us a movie deal.

    Now... is that really likely? No, probably not. But if it did, you would't want to be the one responsible for bringing it crashing down, would you? I know *I* would hate to be that person.

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    8 years 9 months ago #7 by Mister D
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  • This actually happened with "Star Harbor Nights", http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/StarHarborNights

    It was optioned by a TV production company, so the author had to take it down.

    Kind of annoying as it was well-written, once she found her stride.

    I'm still hoping that she'll put it back up, once the option has expired, as there was some excellent characterisation, and some wonderful plot-hooks that were left hanging, when she stopped writing.

    If the option is realised, then there'll be another series for us to enjoy.


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    8 years 9 months ago #8 by Nagrij
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  • I just take the oldest files and put them on a drive. The dates stay the same for those, so I can prove by simply mousing over the older docs that I wrote them first. Well, that in addition to the rest.

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    8 years 9 months ago #9 by Kristin Darken
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  • That actually wouldn't do any good Nagrij. You can easily set a computer's clock back a number of years into the past, save a file, and then restore your clock. The time/date stamp on the files depends on the current time on the computer it was saved on... that's less obvious on network controlled clocks for mobile devices, but it should still be true for most desktops.

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    8 years 9 months ago #10 by Valentine
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  • Kristin Darken wrote: That actually wouldn't do any good Nagrij. You can easily set a computer's clock back a number of years into the past, save a file, and then restore your clock. The time/date stamp on the files depends on the current time on the computer it was saved on... that's less obvious on network controlled clocks for mobile devices, but it should still be true for most desktops.


    And I've done something similar to get out of date to work.

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    8 years 9 months ago #11 by Kristin Darken
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  • Valentine wrote: And I've done something similar to get out of date to work.


    mmHmm. That's one of those 'old' computer nerd tricks. From the days when 'shareware' programs had easy to bypass lockouts related to trial periods. :)

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    8 years 9 months ago #12 by Sir Lee
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  • Not to mention that there are any number of utilities that allow you to edit the timestamps directly.

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